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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by TechUnique
Its about time for an overthrow no?
No! Who the hell would we be overthrowing? Ourselves? The problem isn't that this country has been usurped, of which it has, the real problem is that those who hold the inherent political power have abdicated that power.
It is not us against them we are them!
How many of us have been taught that we are free because we get to elect our leaders? How many of us have been taught that we live in a democracy? How many of us have been taught that all we can do is vote, and then the rest is up to them? We are them!
This is our nation! You as an individual, I as an individual, and ever single individual within the United States, of sound body, mind, and age, has a responsibility to do far more than vote. We are all endowed with unalienable rights and we cannot sit back and hope ambitious politicians and ambitious bureaucrats will protect those rights, we have to protect our own rights. We have to protect the rights of our loved ones, our friends and neighbors and we certainly cannot do that by voting.
We also, most certainly cannot do that by going along to get along. We have long since past the point of getting along, and those ambitious politicians, those ambitious bureaucrats have discovered that they can trample all over our rights just as long as they keep us divided. So, We the People have bought into Democrats and Republicans, Left and Right, we have taken our side and railed against the other side, but if we are all freedom loving individuals who cherish our rights then the only other side are the sycophants of tyranny, and we need not overthrow those sycophants and tyrants, we merely need to refuse to acquiesce to their tyranny.
The ambitious politicians and ambitious bureaucrats would love to see a violent revolution in this nation. That they could easily quell. What these petty tyrants and their sycophants cannot quell is peaceful revolution. They cannot quell non-acquiescence.
So, you can keep voting. You can keep getting licenses to make sure you've obtained permission from the petty tyrants to exercise a right, you can keep paying taxes for something your are most likely not even liable for to begin with, or you can stand tall and refuse to acquiesce to licensing schemes and tax schemes that are antithetical to freedom, and if you cannot find the temerity to do something as simple and peaceful as that, then what in God's name makes you think you could pull off an overthrow?
Originally posted by RSF77
reply to post by spinalremain
People try and you see what happens with that... nothing, just the same as you talk about.
More than likely it's going to keep going like this tipping so far in one direction until we a have a system akin to feudalism. Honestly I think the people calling for armed rebellion are more realistic than anyone who thinks anything can truly happen any other way. That's always the way it has happened all throughout history, why would it be different now?edit on 30-6-2012 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by pillock
why pick on us poor Kiwis ( New Zealand folks )
we come in peace
Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
Your statement was a gross inaccuracy and I felt the need to call you out on it and question such a statement.
We the people having "Political power" you say? OH, you mean the power to select the LESSER devil politician from one of our two scum-bag parties??? The devils who are HAND-SELECTED by the PUPPET-MASTERS before election time?? Yea, thats some real power there, eh? And lets not get into the OVERWHELMING evidence of rigging of votes when someone other than a PUPPET is running...
So again, my question is: are YOU like THEM? Or, ARE you THEM...?
Care to answer that one?
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by jude11
All of a sudden people are backing Bernie Sanders? I have a great deal of respect for the man and his convictions but I have to tell you this new love of Bernie is not typical - Why up until this point do I hear people calling this man everything from a liberal to a socialist and even a communist?
All of a sudden Bernie is a hero?
Always been a great man, and we should pay more attention to what he says.edit on 1-7-2012 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TechUnique
Its about time for an overthrow no?
The problem isn't that this country has been usurped, of which it has, the real problem is that those who hold the inherent political power have abdicated that power. It is not us against them we are them!
Originally posted by MidnightTide
No, the American people are not angry. Most of us are still sitting comfortably watching American Idol or some other worthless crap on television. The last time I saw a stirring of the American people was during the Tea Party, during the Town Hall meetings. Politicians were coming to those with security, and had these HERP DERP looks on their faces. Why weren't the sheep listening to me, I am telling them we are ok. Then the Tea Party got hijacked and now is just a puppet of the Republican Party. Occupy Wall Street had potential, but that just became an extension of the extreme left.
So what is left? Nothing....people grumble and moan and that is about it. No, America isn't angry, just irritated. They will actually be angry when the economy collapses, but by then it will be to late.