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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
BAM! That was the best video ever. I'm sure many people who were watching that when it aired were completely awestruck... he really dished it out to them. My favorite part was when he said this:
We lead the world in only 3 categories:
* number of incarcerated citizens per capita
* number of adults who believe angels are real
* defense spending (more than the next 26 counties combined)
And I wrote a thread a few weeks ago which is extremely relevant to this discussion:
Land Of The Free No Longer
Originally posted by nwtrucker
reply to post by mclarenmp4
Germany you say. I find your logic one-sided. I understand once your hired you cannot be fired??? What's up with that?
You ignore the immigrantion issues of Europe/Germany. The food and fuel issues that the US doesn't have no matter the "economics".
A debt load in the Euro-zone equal to if not worse than the US. Base resources long expended. All the positives of Germany are an indirect benefit of a US military presence for around three generations,at US expense of course.
Your comment re free and prisons sounds like outright anti-US rhetoric. "Freedom" is choice, your choices are yours, make bad ones and your going to jail. Apparently, lots of bad "choices' in the US.
You like socialism? Fine. The price of that socialism is freedom. The top "corporation", the Gov't, decides how much and how long.... on pretty well everything.
I will agree some socialism is a good thing, small communities, perhaps as big as state level, after that, it goes downhill fast.
Frankly, the Europeans should be grateful the US wasn't inclined to socialism, the US probably wouldn't have been in the position to "assist" as effectively in the two world wars.
When I look at the emmigration to both the US and Canada that continues to this day from Europe, it suggests there's a lot of Euros not too happy with the homeland either.
My post was more spoof than anything, but there is some truth in it. The US may not be the best country in the world any more, if ever, although the standards and measurement of that are pretty subjective, If I had to put odds on who has the best chance to turn this world-wide situation around and rebound strongly, it's the US.
Be it isolationist with an immediate withdrawl from the WTO and a 10-30% tariff on imports, it can be turned around pretty fast. Not even Ron Paul has the guts to say it. Of course that would have a huge negative impact on the rest of the world's enconomy. Yet, the US is painted as the evil ones, maybe it's time to live up to those expectations.....
Originally posted by mclarenmp4
reply to post by nwtrucker
I hate to say it but I think Germany is probably the best country in the world right now. It is a free and open democracy, low unemployment, ecologically minded, high quality products, low mortality rate, good public healthcare and excellent worker benefits.
If you want a model on how to run a country it has to be said the Germans are very good at it just a pity about their Nazi background or Germany would be classed as the best country in the world.
The problem with America is that it has a high republican base which thinks socialism is a burden for the free and this type of mindset just ferments the us vs them mentality.
Certain socialist programs like universal healthcare actually improves the nation as a whole because able bodied people who by some misfortune can not seek treatment is then unable to work and may end up in a life of poverty.
Whereas elsewhere in the world they would be able to get treatment and get back to being a productive member of society. That is why even though you may have some of the best healthcare treatment in the world it is largely unobtainable by the vast majority and why you are so low in the world ranking for healthcare.
And the whole they hate us because we are the freest country in the world has been bullcrap for a long time, how can any country with the largest prison populace per capita say they are truly free. The countries of europe are a lot freer than America, they have less police brutality, longer life expectancy are free to move to any country in Europe to look for work, actively protest without fear & they don't have the TSA. The list could go on..
As an American that lived for 5 years in Germany, I agree with you. I am not a world traveler so I can't compare too many other countries to my own, or to Germany, but my experience there has left an indelible mark in my memory of "the way things oughta be..."
When 'PATRIOTS' blindly spout their "America is the greatest country in the world!" rhetoric, I often tell them what it was like living as a 'German' citizen.
Nothing in the video of the OP surprises or shocks me. I bet with some research, the list would go on and on. That being said, I don't think we are the worst. I just think we are capable of FAR GREATER, and it's unfortunate that thing have degraded to a point in the history of this country that I fear for it's future.
Originally posted by nwtrucker
Uh,OK. if the US of A isn't the greatest country in the world, who takes the slot? What country is the greatest in the world?
As far down Mr. Crappers bowl we've gone, there's no where I want to move to. Canada? Nope. too freaking cold and that country will fall apart within weeks of the US. Nowhere in Europe, that's for sure.
Australia? Maybe, but too many snakes and they're about to be overrun by Asians. New zealand? Bah.
Scratch Africa, the Mid-East? Yah right. Hmm. The south pole? Nope, no steaks... England? Nope praying on Sunday beats five times a day...
Iceland? Hmm. There's a possiblity. Costa Rica/Central America? Nope too many retired spooks. Siberia? Nope Canada without the beer. Some small, isolated Island that hasn't been nuked, immigrated to? Already bought up by the dudes who messed it all up..
Iceland is too small. It would be overpopulated in a year.
Nope. I'm hunkering down. Survivalist mode. Plenty of food, away from the cities and who knows, maybe it will get better some day.