America Is Not The Greatest Country Anymore - "The Newsroom" (Jeff Daniels)

reply to post by Ben81


I actually think its more likely that americans would legitimately choose an insincere corporate stooge like Romney or Obama over a truth speaker like Paul.

Nobody ever gets elected by telling it like it really is. Soothing bull# and easily understood but false 'plans' are the order of the day.

People will continue to choose to ignore reality until it kicks their door in and steals their TV.

reply to post by boymonkey74


48% of adult Americans believe every word the bible says. (not gonna source jfgi for the lazy ones)

How do you wanna keep religion and state seperated like that?

Almost as if Obama deliberately dug his own grave by suddenly changing stance on gay marriage just before elections.

But since TPTB want Romney and not RP, the Obama demonising has to start already, even by his own hand.

reply to post by LoveisanArt

You really dont hear any other country hootin and hollaring that its the BEST or GREATEST country

I've heard several people here where I live say that Germany is the greatest country in the world.


I personally think this thread/discussion is much ado about nothing. "Greatest" is a subjective term and thus each persona will have a different idea of "greatest".

reply to post by octotom


To be honest i think it can be defined quite well in raw numbers.

Just pull up the stats of each nation, highest score on average (% based) is the winner.

Not that difficult.

Originally posted by ATSGrunt
reply to post by g146541

 

Funny at how many have been trying to throw that one in every one's face for years even though it was a flat out #ing lie while some of us could read between the lines and see the bull# pouring out. You don't feel so big and great now after allowing such scheming ass trickery to run rampant around you climbing into each loophole that our government helped it create unknowingly for these Capitalists and their empire that they have been telling us is ours, but never really had been! My country wouldn't have ever allowed any such atrocities to take place, but it explains that we allowed the devil to get into every aspect of our lives by allowing this to go on for so long! Did no one see all this coming over the past decade or two? Wow?....This is why I have been trying to off myself for so long, because I had to live within this demonic, crooked, harassing, backstabbing, thieving system! So thanks for putting me and my LORD through Hell for so long! My time wasted will be avenged to its fullest, A promise form the lord!

Cool, I even got you a star.
While I do endorse you "off yourself" if that is where your heart is, I do not understand how you loop this to the America is not great anymore, or a new hbo show.

Why are they actually taking that naive hyperbole seriously? It's just patriotic banter.

reply to post by mclarenmp4


Germany you say. I find your logic one-sided. I understand once your hired you cannot be fired??? What's up with that?
You ignore the immigrantion issues of Europe/Germany. The food and fuel issues that the US doesn't have no matter the "economics".
A debt load in the Euro-zone equal to if not worse than the US. Base resources long expended. All the positives of Germany are an indirect benefit of a US military presence for around three generations,at US expense of course.
Your comment re free and prisons sounds like outright anti-US rhetoric. "Freedom" is choice, your choices are yours, make bad ones and your going to jail. Apparently, lots of bad "choices' in the US.
You like socialism? Fine. The price of that socialism is freedom. The top "corporation", the Gov't, decides how much and how long.... on pretty well everything.
I will agree some socialism is a good thing, small communities, perhaps as big as state level, after that, it goes downhill fast.
Frankly, the Europeans should be grateful the US wasn't inclined to socialism, the US probably wouldn't have been in the position to "assist" as effectively in the two world wars.
When I look at the emmigration to both the US and Canada that continues to this day from Europe, it suggests there's a lot of Euros not too happy with the homeland either.

My post was more spoof than anything, but there is some truth in it. The US may not be the best country in the world any more, if ever, although the standards and measurement of that are pretty subjective, If I had to put odds on who has the best chance to turn this world-wide situation around and rebound strongly, it's the US.

Be it isolationist with an immediate withdrawl from the WTO and a 10-30% tariff on imports, it can be turned around pretty fast. Not even Ron Paul has the guts to say it. Of course that would have a huge negative impact on the rest of the world's enconomy. Yet, the US is painted as the evil ones, maybe it's time to live up to those expectations.....

reply to post by Kryties


thank you very much. May I introduce you to the concept of humour. A spoof. The point,if there was one, is every country has things that others don't like, which I'm sure you'd agree, is a good thing. yes?

I do tire hearing all the bad things about the US from citizens of other countries while ignoring their own issues.

I consider the US the least worse country.

Australia is cool. I admire it and it's citizens. At this point, I like where I live as you do. Most of us like where we live despite the shortcomings. All the noise about the US may be the proof of it's greatness.

New York is a great city. I wouldn't want to live there though. apparently the locals love it.

I hate snakes......

reply to post by justwokeup

I believe you miss the counter-point. Americans aren't blind. They see what's going on. The majority don't "need' you stressing your negativity.

I was born in Canada and immigrated to the US over 20 years ago. With perhaps a slightly less biased viewpoint, can state with 100% certainty that the US media is negative about the US. The Non-US media is negative about the US. I'd be stunned to see a positive comment at all.

Your thread is just one in along series, unending, a sledgehammer to drive a nail. My post was a response that the rest of the countries weren't so perfect themselves.

That we are perfectly aware of the flaws, after all, we are hit with them daily, hourly.

Thank you. We've got it. Understand. Copy that. 10-4. (hint).

The immigration rate (legal) is around 1 million a year. Anyone else getting those numbers?....

What do they know that you, apparently, don't?

reply to post by Shadow Herder


I figured, the "then who is the greatest country" would envoke a debate.

As far as your comments go, it merely confirms why so many left Europe in the first place for the US, Canada Australia et al. I see the holier than thou mentality continues as does the emmigrantion out of Europe to this day.

You moved from a Monachy/church/feudal control to an elitist controlled "socialism".

How "nice". (literal definition).

The US has been moving toward socialism at an ever growing rate. The US is no longer the "greatest nation on earth". A correlation here?

Our ancesters left and you reconfirm that decsion with your post. Thank you!

We're number one as arms manufactures, in terms of being exporters.

Wiki - World Arms Exporters

Regardless how we started it, we'll bring it. Death or its diplomatic term "protection" and its sanitized public consumption term "Freedom" is the largest export of the US, over any other commodity... We have been consistently successful in finding ways to kill people and make a staggering profit; we've done this one action, better than anyone on the planet, in thousands of years.

This is an achievement - something, no other country will surpass in our lifetime.

The absurd graphics of graphics



15 trillion dollar deficit of those "49 million in poverty" must be talking about those who are on welfare.

"97 million near poor" must be talking about the 70 million on SS and SSI.

Yeah that is half the population living on social programs which is not capitalism then when one looks at federal spending which is 3.6 trillion dollars. 2.5 trillion of that spending is on SS, and medicare/medicaid which leaves 1 trillion.

Then when one looks at the total liability owed to those social programs 15 trillion owed to ss,20 trillion owed to prescription drugs.,82 trillion owed to medicare.

America is #1 of owing 119 trillion to those social programs sorry people living under the illusion of America is a capitalist country is severely mistaken.

www.usdebtclock.org...

Homes really?

Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac which owns 96% of all US home mortages everyone gets a free home which lead to the "financial crisis" legislating wealth,healthcare,sucess,educations.

Student loans that now account for over 1 trillion of debt
Fanny and Freddy have combines assets of over 6 trillion.

More money has been spent on entitlements that ever has been spent on defense.

reply to post by neo96


Oh you're going on with those facts again. That's class warfare!

reply to post by neo96


Oh you're going on with those facts again. That's class warfare!

reply to post by mbkennel


Fact like that half of the country is getting paid by tax revenue instead of paying it.

America is the greatest country if you expect other people to pay for someone's existence, and some are all to happy to oblige, and:

See a problem just throw money at it thinking it will go away quantity over quality.

Originally posted by ATSGrunt
reply to post by g146541

 

Funny at how many have been trying to throw that one in every one's face for years even though it was a flat out #ing lie while some of us could read between the lines and see the bull# pouring out. You don't feel so big and great now after allowing such scheming ass trickery to run rampant around you climbing into each loophole that our government helped it create unknowingly for these Capitalists and their empire that they have been telling us is ours, but never really had been! My country wouldn't have ever allowed any such atrocities to take place, but it explains that we allowed the devil to get into every aspect of our lives by allowing this to go on for so long! Did no one see all this coming over the past decade or two? Wow?....This is why I have been trying to off myself for so long, because I had to live within this demonic, crooked, harassing, backstabbing, thieving system! So thanks for putting me and my LORD through Hell for so long! My time wasted will be avenged to its fullest, A promise form the lord!

Whoa, pull yourself together. If there's one thing great about America it's that we can dust ourselves off and get back on the horse again. We can change the course by getting together and writing Ron Paul on the ballot.

what goes up must come down.
when your on top their is no where to go but, hmmm down so, i agree with that.
we are the greatest country to act in an imperialistic manner.

Originally posted by iWantToBeelieve
reply to post by Ben81

 

Just because some TV star says america isnt the greatest anymore, doesnt make it true. If you go by those standards, then hitler was right, White is the supreme race.... Idiot.

These are facts he's quoting, you know, tangible facts that you can look up and see for yourself.

This is the problem America is facing - blind ignorance in the face of facts, refusing to accept the truth in favor of choosing maniacal patriotism.

It's one thing to be proud of your nation for the right reasons, it's a completely different thing to deny the truth and refuse to accept facts because it may harm the perfect patriotic view pummeled into you from birth.

America is NOT the greatest country on Earth, that's a fact. No amount of chest beating, cheer leading, flag waiving, book burning, God loving, president adoring nonsense will change that.

Originally posted by texasgirl
Whoa, pull yourself together. If there's one thing great about America it's that we can dust ourselves off and get back on the horse again. We can change the course by getting together and writing Ron Paul on the ballot.

Take a look through history and you'll find countless examples of war, revolution, famine, natural disasters and epidemics throughout the world... and America has survived what exactly? What has America had to "dust itself off" from other than the Civil War?

That's the only thing that has actually affected your general population, that was the only genuine challenge the American people have faced throughout history.

Countless other populations have lived through and "dusted themselves off" from far more over and over again.

I don't mean to be rude, but this seems like another example of unreasonable American patriotism, a myth that somehow America has survived things that are somehow remarkable.

Compared to the rest of the world America is still a teenager, and hasn't experienced any national catastrophe to survive through other than the Civil War.

This isn't madness, it's truth. May look like madness, but it's truth.

Sure we are taught to be ruthless, cold-hearted, hard-working drones but this guy really hits it on the head, that we don't have to run over the person next to up to get the long waited promotion on a job that we could call boring.

Back then, fear was little to nothing. Sure, we made mistakes, but we learn and build from them.

Is it too much to ask to have another 10 years of without fear?