It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by ancientthunder
reply to post by NorEaster
love the way you write, Nor'easter you are extremely gifted , and what you say is right from you current standpoint. None the less,perhaps another look would be beneficial "if you wish".
I like practical examples, imagine you are an individual cell inside a human body that has a certain lifespan. Also imagine that I am an individual cell inside that same human body.Every cell gets on with its individual role and daily work, some never even contemplate what they are doing or what they form part of. Lets say the cell known as Nor'easter is clearly interested via philosophy in finding the deeper meaning of life ( inclusive of his own life) After years of investigation and filtering through the work of great individual attempts to find that meaning, suddenly,somehow you discover that you live in this one body (known as a human individual). The first individual cell you meet is me ancientthunder and in your excitement you say to me "We are all one" The moment that you explain your realization to me, I laugh and say " Get Farkt, Ive got work to do and so have you."
Does the one remove that fact of individuality? Of course it doesn't and I assume that you know that as you have a great insight. As you say its hot where you are, not sure what part of the body called earth you reside in, down here in oz its cold!! Either way I'm easy with individuality and thank God for it. Gives us the taste of both worlds simultaneously.
Originally posted by Qi Maker
In attempt to reconcile some of the oppositions to oneness expressed here, I will offer this:
In this very moment we do indeed find ourselves in the realm of forms, the world of duality. So that we are separated and differentiated is indeed true. However, we are also entangled in the continuous movement of causation of this entire universe. Everything is relative, in the strict physical sense. On another level, that realm of transcendence beyond form, we are indeed one but without relation. There is no object of comparison for the observer to relate itself about, so this oneness is a seamless expression of infinite potential. It is the unmanifest that contains any and every possibility, all archetypes that could ever be conceived; the zero-point with no circumference. It knows no bounds. It is manifold. It is the Tao. It is God.
So in conclusion, Both are True.
Originally posted by googolplex
Something else I heard, the One sat in the Nothing and said I Am, ( as so it is said the word was fist to come ) for those who don't understand this would be God or as I like to say, The Creator, The One.
A interesting thought of from before, Yin and Yang, the Nothing and The Something, How big is the Nothing, it is neither large nor small and can not be measured for there is nothing there to measure.
But back to that other, from the point of I am, the point of everything, the Something, in that instant of realization all things occurred, time occurred, I Am, I have always been and will always be.
Well at this point, I seem to be getting very fearful, for so it seems if there is as I so simply pointed out, well even then if the Creator is within me and I within the Creator, then it would seem i am one of the Creations of the Creator, a creatures and I am truly humble before that which is and will always be.
Time to get down on your knees my brother and my sister, the Truth is before you as is before me, but not only the Truth is before you and I, but your Maker is very, very close.