SCOTUS Re-Wrote the Law; Obama Flip Flops: Elect Romney!, page 1

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Topic started on 29-6-2012 @ 11:57 AM by jjf3rd77

If people were hesitant to join the Romney bandwagon before Thursday's news day. Well, it only gave republicans everywhere more fire. I think currently Health Care has once again, become the major campaign issue. You even have Republicans stating that Health Care is the economy! Now, we have two goals. To repeal ObamaCare day one! And to fix the mess that is our Supreme Court. I believe Mitt Romney can do two of these things with ease. As, as President he gets the power to elect justices onto the SCOTUS and he also has the power to repeal as much of ObamaCare as he wants.

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Republicans have rallied around Mitt Romney yesterday citing that the court and the Obama Administration is in on the scheme to raise taxes on all Americans, even after Obama has said himself that it was not a tax multiple times!!!!

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The SCOTUS re-wrote the law and King Obama tricked and lied to the American people!

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I also think that it's funny that Mitt Romney gave his speech first before President Obama!

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reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:00 PM by drwizardphd

This is a joke, right?

RomneyCare & ObamaCare: Can You Tell the Difference?

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:02 PM by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by drwizardphd
This is a joke, right?

RomneyCare & ObamaCare: Can You Tell the Difference?

The difference is...One is state level; one is federal law and a mandate!!!!!!

Hey guess what, Romney's is a libertarian conservative solution. Obama's is a fraud!

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:02 PM by OutKast Searcher

reply to post by jjf3rd77

As, as President he gets the power to elect justices onto the SCOTUS and he also has the power to repeal as much of ObamaCare as he wants.

He can only appoint justices when one retires...the next to retire leans conservative anyway.

And what power does Romney have to repeal as much of the Health Care Law as he wants???

And no...the SCOTUS didn't "re-write" the law...it was always a penalty administered as a tax and enforced by the IRS.

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reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:05 PM by GoldenRuled

Independent voters such as myself outnumber the combined ranks of the republican and democrat voters by 8 to 1. Thank Lou Dobbs. I'm still voting RON PAUL!

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:06 PM by jjf3rd77

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It's looking like Republicans will once again control the house and senate. So he can repeal it if that happens.

If it doesn't, then he can't do it himself, obviously that would be doing the same thing Obama has. Although, I am sure he can sign some opt-out legislature which is what should happen.

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:07 PM by jjf3rd77

reply to post by GoldenRuled

So what? They still vote republican or democrat in the end.

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:08 PM by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

It's looking like Republicans will once again control the house and senate. So he can repeal it if that happens.

If it doesn't, then he can't do it himself, obviously that would be doing the same thing Obama has. Although, I am sure he can sign some opt-out legislature which is what should happen.

Where do you get the idea that the Republicans will control the Senate???

They have a chance at getting a majority (a small chance)...but they aren't going to get a super majority for sure.

Please explain how Romney would be able to do it himself.

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:09 PM by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by drwizardphd
This is a joke, right?

RomneyCare & ObamaCare: Can You Tell the Difference?

The difference is...One is state level; one is federal law and a mandate!!!!!!

Hey guess what, Romney's is a libertarian conservative solution. Obama's is a fraud!

You did not just call Romney a Libertarian.

Yes...one is state level...and Romney has always claimed he is against "Obamacare" because it is unconstitutional to have the mandate at a national level. He can no longer use that argument...the SCOTUS says otherwise. So now what is his excuse for being against it???

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:09 PM by seabag

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And what power does Romney have to repeal as much of the Health Care Law as he wants???

Executive Order!

It’s time the left gets a taste of its own medicine.

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:11 PM by seabag

reply to post by GoldenRuled

I'm still voting RON PAUL!

Well that will teach us all a lesson, huh?

Ron Paul!!!

Pipe dream??

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:11 PM by babybunnies

Actually, Romney can't overrride Obamacare without a vote in Congress and The Senate, and can only approve Supreme Court justices when others retire.

An executive order won't be enough to veto an act that's already in place and that has been confirmed by the Supreme Court. He'll have to put it to a vote.

As far as "getting it done on day one of the Presidency" a potential President Romney is in for a very long day, as he keeps promising things that will happen on day one.

I doubt that the paperwork could be put together that quickly, or even if this override would pass in the first 100 days.

You're claiming that Obama has flip flopped over Health Care so you're voting for Romney, but Romney has flip flopped over this as well, saying it's good for Massachusetts but bad for the United States. He can't have it both ways.

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:18 PM by Flatfish

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I think you missed this little video of your hero Mitt Romney speaking on the merits of the personal mandate;

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reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:19 PM by intrepid

Dude, I'm a Romney supporter but I have to say that this continuous flagging of Mitt is a complete turn off. Secondly that SCOTUS is owned by Republican nominees 5-4 at this time.

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:29 PM by bjax9er

they only need a simple majority in the senate to repeal 51

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:30 PM by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

And what power does Romney have to repeal as much of the Health Care Law as he wants???

Executive Order!

It’s time the left gets a taste of its own medicine.

Really...because the Liberal Presidents are the only ones that use executive orders???

Go Review and Educate yourself
www.archives.gov...

So tell me...how exactly would Romney use an EO to repeal the law??? Because he just can't repeal it...that isn't what EOs do. So what exactly would he do?

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:33 PM by betaiso

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RON is not on the ticket, oh wait.. you will write his name on it

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:36 PM by drwizardphd

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

And what power does Romney have to repeal as much of the Health Care Law as he wants???

Executive Order!

It’s time the left gets a taste of its own medicine.

Wow. Just wow.

Besides the fact that you don't even seem to understand what an Executive Order is, you're trying to pin them as some partisan measure that is unique to the left.

Executive orders have been issued by every president since 1789, and they can't be used to repeal laws that have been passed by congress.

Executive Order

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:37 PM by sheepslayer247

Obamacare sucks! Elect Romney?

How can I tell the difference between the two? They both like to pass healthcare legislation that takes the power away from the people and direct it to the government!

If you're going to insult my intelligence you could at least try a bit harder.

Vote for Romney? Not even if Jesus and Elvis came down from Heaven and forced me to. No thanks!

reply posted on 29-6-2012 @ 12:52 PM by seabag

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

And what power does Romney have to repeal as much of the Health Care Law as he wants???

Executive Order!

It’s time the left gets a taste of its own medicine.

Really...because the Liberal Presidents are the only ones that use executive orders???

Go Review and Educate yourself
www.archives.gov...

So tell me...how exactly would Romney use an EO to repeal the law??? Because he just can't repeal it...that isn't what EOs do. So what exactly would he do?

I don't need a lesson from you, sir.

On his first day, via executive order, Romney can grant states an exemption to Obamacare.

Mitt's Plan

On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.

In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.

Romney

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