you have it backwards

the symbolism is marketing

they know peeps are looking at this stuff

HA, they just changed the name of the clock tower to Elizabeth Tower. It was never officially named big ben it was the clock tower and the clock was nick named big ben. Now how does that change things ?

Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Forget Rhianna, what about all the symbolism in the stage set of the Iron Maiden "Powerslave" tour - and Iron Maiden are from east London, where the Olympics are being held. Plus, lead singer Bruce Dickinson is an airline pilot, linking directly with the BA advert. And their latest album features the song When The Wild Wind Blows which is about a couple mistaking an earthquake for a nuclear attack. It's GOT to be a message!!!!!

They could all be trying to appeal to the population or doing their bit for awakening the population, unless there's reason to think they have secret knowledge?

Alright, I think it's definitely possible that there could be an attack on the Olympics but I have two things to say about your support:
a) Of course Big Ben is in a lot of the commercials and ads, it's one of the biggest tourist spots in all of London! It's just like showing the Eiffel Tower for a big event in Paris or something.
b) That Chinese ad for the Euro cup, I think the "war" theme is just a metaphor for the competition being like a war between the teams, and sports fields are often referred to as "battlefields". It's not all that out of the ordinary. If you want someone to pay attention to an advertisement then throw in some things blowing up, it's sure to pique the interest of viewers.

I think there are a lot of things though that support an attack at the Olympics very well, just not the things you've mentioned.

I don't see anything happening at this years Olympic Games. There has just been so much talk about the security arrangements in the UK press, I don't see how it would make any sense for a false flag attack.

If I was going to do a false flag I would definitely choose a high profile target, and you don't get much more high profile than the Olympics, but I would choose a symbol of everyday life or a target implicitly symbolic of the nation I was going to attack.

I would want people to feel like they are no longer safe in their everyday lives, so I could grab some rights off of them. I'm thinking this could be more difficult to accomplish in attacking a big international event, people would be thinking "This is outrageous. We knew this could happen and it did, blame the government!"

If you attack a symbol of everyday life or nationalism, like a subway or skyscraper, I can imagine people crying out to have their peace of mind restored. "Please, please read my emails and make me carry an ID card, if it keeps me safe from those nasty terrorists, then do it!"


Also, with regards to the symbolism of London destruction/Illuminati symbolism; that is really quite odd. All I can think is that in the last 10 to 15 years as these topics rise a little in the public conscious, they symbolism is exploited to sell music. A bit of a cop out answer,but I just can't explain it otherwise.

I can't see the symbols being messages, I'm sure Illuminati have email/blackberry messenger.

I would be interested to see any symbolism used previous to other attacks/disasters. I mean, was this kind of stuff going on just before 9/11? Did the Chinese advertise Euro 2000 with a cartoon of skyscrapers burning and collapsing?

Originally posted by babybunnies

Big Ben is actually the BELL inside the clock tower and isn't actually shown, a common error.

I should have just read your nickname and left it at that, but as I am already replying, here is quote from Wikipedia:

"Big Ben is the nickname for the great bell of the clock at the north end of the Palace of Westminster in London, and is generally extended to refer to the clock and the clock tower as well."

Please note that although your main point is true, -you- are in error to claim that this is an error. It is not an error, it is common, general practice - if you disagree, go change the wikipedia entry first.

British Airways aren't telling people NOT to fly, they're telling British people to stay home and support their team, which is basically the same thing.

How can you stay home and fly at the same time?

And if it is the same thing, why even reply? I mean, why reply just to refute your own claim? But as I said, your nickname should have been enough of a warning..