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Jeremiah 33:2-3 (Complete Jewish Bible)
2 “Thus says Adonai the maker,
Adonai who formed [the universe]
so as to keep directing it —
Adonai is his name:
3 ‘Call out to me,
and I will answer you —
I will tell you great things,
hidden things of which you are unaware.’”
Isaiah 48:6-8 (New Living Translation)
6 You have heard my predictions and seen them fulfilled,
but you refuse to admit it.
Now I will tell you new things,
secrets you have not yet heard.
7 They are brand new, not things from the past.
So you cannot say, ‘We knew that all the time!’
8 “Yes, I will tell you of things that are entirely new,
things you never heard of before.
1 Corinthians 8:5-7 (J.B. Phillips New Testament)
5 For though there are so-called gods both in heaven and earth, gods and lords galore in fact,
6 to us there is only one God, the Father, from whom everything comes, and for who we live. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom everything exists, and by whom we ourselves are alive.
7 But this knowledge of ours is not shared by all men.
Colossians 1:19-20 (New Living Translation)
For God in all his fullness
was pleased to live in Christ,
20 and through him God reconciled
everything to himself.
He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth
by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.
John 20:29
29 Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me.”
Isaiah 24:21-22 (New Living Translation)
21 In that day the Lord will punish the gods in the heavens
and the proud rulers of the nations on earth.
22 They will be rounded up and put in prison.
They will be shut up in prison
and will finally be punished.
Psalm 58 (English Standard Version Anglicised)
Do you indeed decree what is right, you gods?
Do you judge the children of man uprightly?
2 No, in your hearts you devise wrongs;
your hands deal out violence on earth.
Isaiah 28:14-15 (New Living Translation)
14 Therefore, listen to this message from the Lord,
you scoffing rulers in Jerusalem.
15 You boast, “We have struck a bargain to cheat death
and have made a deal to dodge the grave.[c]
The coming destruction can never touch us,
for we have built a strong refuge made of lies and deception.”
- God responds to their defiance thus:
18 I will cancel the bargain you made to cheat death,
and I will overturn your deal to dodge the grave.
When the terrible enemy sweeps through,
you will be trampled into the ground.
Isaiah 57:8-9 (New Living Translation)
8 You have put pagan symbols
on your doorposts and behind your doors.
You have left me
and climbed into bed with these detestable gods.
You have committed yourselves to them.
You love to look at their naked bodies.
9 You have given olive oil to Molech
with many gifts of perfume.
You have traveled far,
even into the world of the dead**,
to find new gods to love.
Ephesians 3 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
8 ..to proclaim to the Gentiles the incalculable riches of the Messiah,
9 and to shed light for all about the administration of the mystery
hidden for ages in God who created all things.
10 This is so God’s multi-faceted wisdom may now be made known
through the church to the rulers and authorities in the heavens.
Jeremiah 31:35-37 (New Living Translation)
35 It is the Lord who provides the sun to light the day
and the moon and stars to light the night,
and who stirs the sea into roaring waves.
His name is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies,
and this is what he says:
36 “I am as likely to reject my people Israel
as I am to abolish the laws of nature!”
37 This is what the Lord says:
“Just as the heavens cannot be measured
and the foundations of the earth cannot be explored,
so I will not consider casting them away
for the evil they have done.
I, the Lord, have spoken!
Job 26:7 (New Living Translation)
7 God stretches the northern sky over empty space
and hangs the earth on nothing.
Romans 8:38-39 (New Living Translation)
And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love.
No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Originally posted by IMSAM
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what kind of christian-pastor says that if aliens exist it ruins the christian faith??
probably the christian-pastor who dosent know sh@t about christianity.
It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble.
The Vatican's chief astronomer says there is no conflict between believing in God and in the possibility of "extraterrestrial brothers" perhaps more evolved than humans. "In my opinion this possibility (of life on other planets) exists," said Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, a 45-year-old Jesuit priest who is head of the Vatican Observatory and a scientific adviser to Pope Benedict.
"How can we exclude that life has developed elsewhere," he told the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano in an interview in its Tuesday-Wednesday edition, explaining that the large number of galaxies with their own planets made this possible.
Asked if he was referring to beings similar to humans or even more evolved than humans, he said: "Certainly, in a universe this big you can't exclude this hypothesis".
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
There's a much simpler reason to believe that other life possibly exists elsewhere in the universe, and that's just because of the sheer size of the universe.
And Christians should have no problem reconciling their belief in life elsewhere with their faith. The Catholic Church has no problem with extraterrestrial life.
I'm not an overly religious person myself (nor am I non-religious), but I never understood why some Christian Fundamentalists feel that the bible excludes ET life. I agree with the catholic Church's idea that God created the entire universe, and that universe could include ETs.
I think this "we are the only intelligent life" argument is not a Christian view, but a view of only a few Fundamentalist Christian groups. Most Christians (those who understand the size of the universe) probably do not agree with that fundamentalist view.
Something that's weighed on me since becoming a Christian, is that most of us don't believe in aliens.
The problem for Christians comes when the question arises - what if God is also a being beyond this planet and star system?
Originally posted by AdAstra
reply to post by Imtor
The problem for Christians comes when the question arises - what if God is also a being beyond this planet and star system?
If God is the intelligence that created the uni-verse - literally, everything, including every possible "parallel universe", should they exist - why would that be a problem?
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
I never understood why some Christian Fundamentalists feel that the bible excludes ET life.
I think this "we are the only intelligent life" argument is not a Christian view, but a view of only a few Fundamentalist Christian groups. Most Christians (those who understand the size of the universe) probably do not agree with that fundamentalist view.
4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
but anywhere else in the universe that salvation is needed, they will be pointed to the example of Christ's incarnation on the earth, and through the medium of visions/ word-of-mouth from the prophets of other races, the 'aliens' will be able to accept Him and his work of redemption. He would not need to be incarnated on other planets, as we are told that he died 'once for all'.
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.