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Almost all of your questions about "Obamacare" Answered here. :)

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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 02:36 AM
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Almost every question you might have is answered there, the citations are also provided by the author so you can check them out for yourself.

So instead of relying on right-wing blogs and Fox News, do some research for yourself before calling for an armed revolution.


Some Key Parts already in effect -




It allows the Food and Drug Administration to approve more generic drugs (making for more competition in the market to drive down prices)



Reduces the costs for some companies that handle benefits for the elderly.



Medicare patients with chronic illnesses must be monitored more thoroughly.



No more "pre-existing conditions" for kids under the age of 19.



Any new health plans must provide preventative care (mammograms, colonoscopies, etc.) without requiring any sort of co-pay or charge.


Here's the link again, it's a long thread but the main part is at the very top along with the citations back to the original bill.

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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 02:38 AM
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S&F. thank you for posting this. there is so much misinformation out there right now.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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It establishes a non-profit group, that the government doesn't directly control, PCORI, to study different kinds of treatments to see what works better and is the best use of money. ( Citation: Page 665, sec. 1181 )



Sham


It forbids insurance companies from discriminating based on a disability, or because they were the victim of domestic abuse in the past (yes, insurers really did deny coverage for that) ( Citation: Page 47, sec. 2705 )


If they are private companies, let them choose who they want... if they still have customers, then they stay in business.


It says that health insurance companies can no longer tell customers that they won't get any more coverage because they have hit a "lifetime limit". Basically, if someone has paid for health insurance, that company can't tell that person that he's used that insurance too much throughout his life so they won't cover him any more. They can't do this for lifetime spending, and they're limited in how much they can do this for yearly spending. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2711 )


How do people think insurance companies make money? Although there's much more to that... admittedly.


Kids can continue to be covered by their parents' health insurance until they're 26. ( Citation: Page 15, sec. 2714 )


Outrageous! Don't give me no crap about young adults not being able to afford health care.


Insurers need to have an appeals process for when they turn down a claim, so customers have some manner of recourse other than a lawsuit when they're turned down. ( Citation: Page 42, sec. 2719 )

Although the government forcing this... is over the line, as if there is one.

I'm not gonna lie, this site is not very impressive... but I haven't read it through yet. Still reading



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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I didn't post this with the intentions of starting another debate! Hopefully people will read it and inform themselves instead of relying on the media to get all of the facts on this new law



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 03:13 AM
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So you want the insurance companies to have more control, right?

How do you think we got into this boondoggle then?

Sure, let Blue Cross/Blue Shield throw millions at their CEOs while Americans have to make do with denied claims, etc.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by FractalChaos13242017

It establishes a non-profit group, that the government doesn't directly control, PCORI, to study different kinds of treatments to see what works better and is the best use of money. ( Citation: Page 665, sec. 1181 )



Sham

Missing explanation




It forbids insurance companies from discriminating based on a disability, or because they were the victim of domestic abuse in the past (yes, insurers really did deny coverage for that) ( Citation: Page 47, sec. 2705 )


If they are private companies, let them choose who they want... if they still have customers, then they stay in business.


How about you think about those people with diabetes or had cancer in their youth - there is NO insurance on earth which would take them voluntary.




It says that health insurance companies can no longer tell customers that they won't get any more coverage because they have hit a "lifetime limit". Basically, if someone has paid for health insurance, that company can't tell that person that he's used that insurance too much throughout his life so they won't cover him any more. They can't do this for lifetime spending, and they're limited in how much they can do this for yearly spending. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2711 )


How do people think insurance companies make money? Although there's much more to that... admittedly.

Yes, let us think about those companies! They should always be rich enough to pay for their stockholders!
Honestly: are you on their side?




Kids can continue to be covered by their parents' health insurance until they're 26. ( Citation: Page 15, sec. 2714 )


Outrageous! Don't give me no crap about young adults not being able to afford health care.

Yeah right, why don't those students take one or two more jobs to pay for themselves! What a shame! When I was that age, we worked day and night and day and night and so on! I slept AFTER my diploma!
No, not really. You are too selfish, I think.




Insurers need to have an appeals process for when they turn down a claim, so customers have some manner of recourse other than a lawsuit when they're turned down. ( Citation: Page 42, sec. 2719 )

Although the government forcing this... is over the line, as if there is one.

I'm not gonna lie, this site is not very impressive... but I haven't read it through yet. Still reading


Honestly, I don't think you thought that through. There are a lot of bad things going on in your medical business, making it by far the most expensive on the planet while being NOT the best medical service on the planet. Not even close.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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Finally some decent facts and no scare mongering.
When will some of you realize this is good for the people of the USA, oh and stop being so selfish for once and think of the people who will benefit from Obamacare.
S&F fella



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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You ask..."Are you on their side?" meaning the side of the insurance companies. Of course we should be on their side. They are our friends and neighbors. They are trying to run a business. Insurance is not a charity run by imaginary do-gooders- it is business run by people just like you and me. They collect money, invest it and pay claims. If you take away their ability to collect money...then their is no money to pay claims.

I find it truly outrageous that 19-26 year olds want to be on their parents insurance. What kind of generation are we raising...absolutely pathetic.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Stop being so selfish?!!! How dare you. I should not have to pay for your medicine, when no one helps me pay for mine. Why don't you start being more self reliant.

You are not even American. Here in the USA we believe in individual liberty and worth....and self reliance. We rejected being beholden to a monarch. We bow to no one.
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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And let your fellow countryman fall ill? would you deny a person life saving drugs if you had to pay a bit to it? I will help anyone out in need and I would be glad to pay more tax if it was going to the NHS.

You keep your Me me me me attitude and I will keep my caring one.

Oh and you really need to research my monarch she serves us the people, but that is for a different thread.
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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No It's evil I tells ya....

Why should I pay for someone else man.... if people can't afford stuff let them die.

Why should the poor, elderly and vulnerable be looked after, screw them I say.

Hell no... I would rather me and my family were OK and everyone else suffered.

Socialism is bad.... it's like communism and the Russians were Communists and the Russians are evil.

Obama is a Muslim and I hate Muslims.

Obama is ruining our great nation by looking after people and protecting the poor and vulnerable.

I would rather Big Pharma and insurance companies made all the money they want... That's Capitalism right?

For profit medicine is the best!!

Oh and...

dey durka durr....









(the above is sarcasm for anyone not aware)
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Missing Blue Sky
 


And let your fellow countryman fall ill? would you deny a person life saving drugs if you had to pay a bit to it? I will help anyone out in need and I would be glad to pay more tax if it was going to the NHS.

You keep your Me me me me attitude and I will keep my caring one.

Oh and you really need to research my monarch she serves us the people, but that is for a different thread.
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Anyone that has been denied "Life Saving Drugs" would be a very small group. Most anyone can get what they need. It may cost them more without insurance but no one that I know of has been denied life saving drugs. Thats like the shelter putting the sickest looking saddest dogs on their posters and you go inside and its all pit bulls and ugly dogs. You bought into the scam. I know very, VERY few uninsured people. For the most part, if you work you can get insurance fairly cheap. But thats the kicker. You have to WORK.. You have to go out and get a JOB. And the whole 19-26 thing is stupid. Before that kids could stay on their parents insurance while in College but after that they needed to get out and get a job in which case, guess what? Insurance.

But stop saying we are trying to deny anyone anything. I am sure there are a few people this will help at the expense of everyone else. What we needed were just some regulations on prices so things did not get ridiculously expensive. But our endless regulations on drugs, our frivolous lawsuits and other stupidness have run prices of everything up. Why not fix that? Instead we have put the needs of a few in front of the many. But bottom line. If people here want insurance they know how to get it. Its called a job.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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I just got a new part time job at UPS. I make about $135 per week. Will I be taxed? With that small of a paycheck, just 5 bucks matters.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup
I would rather Big Pharma and insurance companies made all the money they want... That's Capitalism right?

For profit medicine is the best!!


Good thing we have Obamacare to fill their pockets, then!


Originally posted by SubPop79
I just got a new part time job at UPS. I make about $135 per week. Will I be taxed? With that small of a paycheck, just 5 bucks matters.


The amount you make for yourself doesn't matter. Keeping anything for yourself is selfish and cruel, anyway. As long as you are starving so that your neighbor lives, you are a good little citizen.

/TOA



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Ignorance.

Don't deny it, spread it!



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Yep, Your monarch who allows your NHS to decide which 130,000 of your countrymen deserve to die this year so the NHS can save money!


Tell you what... let US in the United States determine what type of health system we want and you can go back to your crappy NHS and your obvious lack of dental care... k?



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Ignorance.

Don't deny it, spread it!


Which part? The part where I spoke the truth, or that other part where I spoke the truth? Or were you speaking of yourself?

/TOA



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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No "truth" there.

Just more cold-war, commie-bashing.

Baby boomers. Ick.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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This can't be the correct information.

Where are the Death Panels?
Where are they killing Grandma?
Where are they forcing good little Catholic girls to get abortions?

Oh right...all that is false.


Good information my friend...hopefully people will use it.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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Oh my god?
Could it be?
Has the tide finally turned?

People may actually understand that insuraunce companies
are not your friend nor care about your rights? Maybe they'll
see that people like Karl Rove and the Koch Brothers are not
as worried about communism but their profit margin?
Maybe they'll see that all along their neighbors,
those evil firefighters and teachers are more like them, than the fake
grass root PAC's like Crossroads, Citizens United and Freedom Works?

A good rule of thumb is if you are not a billionaire, don't vote like one.

Thank you Muse and ATS, they're may be hope after all .
That is..... until we find out that Obama finds Kittens and then
picks the ones that he thinks are Christian and drowns them.
Or that soon The Black Panthers will be in charge of all daycares.




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