'DNA vaccine' will halt nicotine cravings and could even be used to stop children from starting

Originally posted by Oannes
If we know that ciggarettes are sooooo bad, why do we allow these companies to make them? No ciggarettes, no need for this extra junk. I swear sometimes...

Believe it or not, but making some drugs legal is beneficial because you can better control how it's made and distributed to ensure higher standards of safety. But as any kind of drug goes, safety is really second to profit. Strangely, tobacco smoking is more dangerous than marijuana smoking, by far. In fact, alcohol is more addictive than marijuana. So why make mirjuana illegal? I suspect that there's a limit to how far society will go to legalize drugs. When you sum it all up, drugs probably hurt us more than help us. That's the reason they don't legalize it to make it more safe. Ultimately, legalizing these things sends the message that drugs are fine and we shouldn't break away from them.

But I really don't like genetic tinkering, not yet. We're still beginners. Remember nuclear power? We started out with some quite dangerous designs. Coal power was a lot dirtier in the past, remember that? Remember when workers used to stir liquid mercury in tubs without any protection whatsoever? Sure, every technology starts out potentially dangerous until we can learn better methods. But don't expect there to be no protests or campaigns in opposition to the use of genetic tinkering.

That's just plain creepy! I'd never let them give it to me. NEVER!!

Nothing surprises me anymore....nothing!

so they can make a vaccination to kill entire industries now?

next up the soda industry (leads to diabetes and obesity)

McDonalds better keep their taxes paid as I can see a vaccine that makes people avoid the golden arches in the wings.

Oh, how about a vaccine that makes you sick if you smell gasoline so we can get those hybrids selling....

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Lastly, I think anyone who is willing to inject a child with any "gene-altering" drug is demented. I would never give my kids something knowing that it has the potential to alter anything in their genetic code. I know there are things that may naturally mess with genetics; even bananas are slightly radioactive. But tinkering with intent to change is a horrible idea. How could this possibly affect future generations? They can't possibly know with certainty.

I imagine this could be considered child abuse unless it is government approved! Another question would be that can doctors and other force someone to take this "for their own good" because the nanny state said so?

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problem+ solution= PROFITS all around...one industry creates the problem while another cleans up on the back end!

So instead of outlawing tobacco, they want to modify your DNA? How does that even make sense? Follow the money ... also, who is funding these studies? Marlboro? Monsanto? Merck? Pfizer? Unilever? General electric?

Originally posted by FlySolo
I'll take it. I've tried the Champix and it worked once. Probably mostly due to the placebo effect because the second time I tried it, notta. If there is a DNA modification maybe that will prove to be more than just placebo. However, I only have one major concern about all of this. How does it effect the dopamine production? Say good-bye to orgasms then.

I sure as heck wouldn't take it. I quit smoking 6 years ago and did it with nothing but my will power, and I was addicted so if I can do it, anyone can. A vaccine is not needed to stop the nicotine addiction, let alone as a preventative measure for our children.

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This is exactly what I said years ago would happen once they started talking about inventing vaccines against drugs. Then I was just some crazy conspiracy theorist for suggesting that they would probably start injecting children with such vaccines to prevent drug use.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

Originally posted by FlySolo
I'll take it. I've tried the Champix and it worked once. Probably mostly due to the placebo effect because the second time I tried it, notta. If there is a DNA modification maybe that will prove to be more than just placebo. However, I only have one major concern about all of this. How does it effect the dopamine production? Say good-bye to orgasms then.

I sure as heck wouldn't take it. I quit smoking 6 years ago and did it with nothing but my will power, and I was addicted so if I can do it, anyone can. A vaccine is not needed to stop the nicotine addiction, let alone as a preventative measure for our children.

The main reason people don't quit is because propaganda keeps telling them it is near impossible.

Originally posted by juleol
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This is exactly what I said years ago would happen once they started talking about inventing vaccines against drugs. Then I was just some crazy conspiracy theorist for suggesting that they would probably start injecting children with such vaccines to prevent drug use.

Well it turns out you're not so crazy.

I certainly would have never imagined a DNA vaccine for nicotine but some people are just very creative, not always in a good way either.

Originally posted by domasio
I would just like to know, what gives them the right to sit and regulate things that grow naturally, and are obviously there for a reason? Cigarettes kill, not because of the tobacco, but because of the large range of harmful chemicals added to the cigarettes.

Even if the chemicals were never added, what gives any human the right to tell another what they can't put in their own body? Society really pisses me off sometimes.

 

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That is freedom for you. ;(
Freedom in this world means that government regulates any aspect of your life and act like your parents as if you are too dumb to take responsibility yourself.
The future looks bright indeed...

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Well, that and the fact that we have whole generations of folks that have never attempted anything hard in their life.

I don't know that much about the subject, but the fact that they got the means to change our DNA that easily seams kind of scary.
I would not let them do this to my children. I quit smoking the natural way, by choosing not to smoke, my children will do so to, if they still got the freedom to choose.

What's next? Something like this maybe?
In Time Movie Trailer 2011

BTW. found this by accident.

NvAte - DNA Vaccines

There have been several types of vaccines using live or killed viruses but DNA vaccines promise a safer, cheaper way of protection. Removing a single strand (RNA) of genetic information from a live virus, making the virus dead is the first step in creating DNA vaccines. Next, the strand is converted to a double strand (DNA) and encoded with an antigen for the cells of the host.

Doesn't sound safe at all to me...

Peace! Santos.

I think people should have the choice to make the decision about what they put in their own bodies. Honestly, this is just another way to control people because *someone* thinks they know what everyone needs. Nicotine Indy itself is not a bad thing... It's all the crap they put with it!

What a mad world this is, vaccines are far more dangerous than cigarettes. This is like saying that getting run over by a car will protect us from falling off a bicycle

This information is truly disturbing. I think this as I suck on another home rolled coffin nail, rolled with the same care as someone who loads his own bullets. Regardless, I see this DNA vaccine as a product of weak morals.

Who cares how the technology is used as long as I get paid for developing or manufacturing it. Just like everyone who works for any business these days and just thinks about payday, without any thought about what they are doing or what their company is doing. Most of us are good little Nazis and obey every command without question, as long as the paychecks keep coming.

This is a clear indication to me that no so called professional should be trusted. Always get another opinion and then get one of your own. The main thing is to make the best choice.

If the vaccine cost averages out to less than five bucks per day, I'm in. Smoking these days doesn't just kill you, literally... It also kills your banking account.

Terrible habit I'd love to quit.

~Heff

How expensive are Diabetes and Cancer? Both come from Vaccines, so this could end up being a lot more expensive on the long run

Originally posted by Hefficide

If the vaccine cost averages out to less than five bucks per day, I'm in. Smoking these days doesn't just kill you, literally... It also kills your banking account.

Terrible habit I'd love to quit.

~Heff

Originally posted by Hefficide

If the vaccine cost averages out to less than five bucks per day, I'm in. Smoking these days doesn't just kill you, literally... It also kills your banking account.

Terrible habit I'd love to quit.

~Heff

I'm in too, but I want to see how it effects everyone else first. In the meantime, I've got one of those electric cigarettes with flavored cartridges. Found out they have nicotine ones as well and they only cost $20 for four cartridges. Waiting for the retailer to get them in this weekend. If I can go a week on one package for $20, that's a +$56 savings or $223/month.

I hate smoking and its deep pocket blues

Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by Oannes
If we know that cigarettes are sooooo bad, why do we allow these companies to make them? No cigarettes, no need for this extra junk. I swear sometimes...

Just the fact that cigarettes are legal should be an indication to how the world really works.

You're 100% right. But, ya know what? If we stop all the stupid stuff that we do, then what's the point of living? Fat people raise fat kids, putting them right in line for an early heart attack or stroke. So, let's make sure everyone eats only vegetables. No cake for you!

My father was a mean drunk. I hate drunk drivers. So, the booze has GOT to go!

Let's flush the drugs, can the soda, and scorn the porn. All bets are off when it comes to gambling.

Now all we have left is television, and I got rid of that three years ago.