'DNA vaccine' will halt nicotine cravings and could even be used to stop children from starting, page 1


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Topic started on 28-6-2012 @ 10:54 AM by Corruption Exposed
How about a vaccine that you can give to your child that will make then never want to smoke, and can even help current smokers quit.

An injection of genes that make antibodies against nicotine could help millions of smokers kick the habit, scientists believe.

Just one jab could provide life-long protection against nicotine cravings and it could eventually be used to vaccinate children to stop them ever getting hooked.


Sounds great doesn't it? Don't worry it gets even better.


The ‘genetic vaccine’ has so far been tested only on mice, but research involving people could begin in as little as two years.

The jab contains genes ‘programmed’ to make antibodies that neutralise nicotine before it reaches the brain, where it would normally trigger the pleasurable feelings that underlie addiction.

The theory is that if smokers no longer get such gratification from cigarettes, they will find it easier to quit.
The jab being developed at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York tricks the liver into continuously making antibodies, ensuring there are always some in the blood to fight nicotine.


So they want to trick the brain and liver into changing the way it reacts to certain chemicals.

Does anyone trust these vaccine makers anymore?

This next part is what really gets me.


The research is still at an early stage and the need for large-scale studies means the jab is at least five years from the market.

If it proved to be safe and effective, it could eventually be included in school vaccination programmes to stop youngsters from ever starting to smoke, said Dr Crystal.


It's not enough that the government lets them sell us cigarettes that cause cancer and then creates large cash profits for pharmaceutical companies and the health system but now they might be planning on making this part of the school vaccination programmes. Parents should be outraged that they're even considering this.

This news right here should be proof that these people have an agenda, if you weren't already aware. Sure, it may be years away from happening, but it shows the direction our society is heading. Instead of using common sense and making the healthy choice, let's just get a shot since we as humans are too stupid to make our own decisions (end sarcasm).

If kids are anything like they were when I was young, they will still smoke to bee cool regardless if the nicotine "gratifies" them or not.

The full article can be read here:
Daily Mail

They need to stop tinkering with the human body, if it isn't broke, don't fix it
edit on 28-6-2012 by Corruption Exposed because: title



reply posted on 28-6-2012 @ 11:09 AM by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by CynicalDrivel



I completely agree.

We have seen what Monsanto and their GMO crops have done to our food system, and it's certainly not a good thing. The mutations have spread to non GMO crops. Could we see the same issues happen with humans? I think it's very possible.

Why on earth would we let these scientists manipulate our bodily functions for something as stupid as cigarettes, I sure as heck don't trust them.


reply posted on 28-6-2012 @ 11:25 AM by Numbers33four
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the unintended consequences will be horrific...or are they unintended?


reply posted on 28-6-2012 @ 11:29 AM by CynicalDrivel
reply to post by FlySolo

Nah, the war on drugs and what it costs us is an indication of how the world really works. Or the more legal topic on this site: Prohibition.

I know for a FACT with the number of heavy-scary drinkers in my family alone, that Alcoholism is at least 10-fold more dangerous to my family than the danger of smoking.

Father woke up in a tree with no clue how he got there, quit drinking heavy. Grandpa got in a wreck, lost his teeth, quit drinking heavy. Uncle went through the scariest hospital visit of his life, made worse by being a drunkard, quit drinking entirely. I had 1 bout with being too drunk to enforce "No!" (literally, turned the dude down, then forgot within a few seconds that I said no), THEN blanked out after that, quit drinking heavily. Baby brother found himself drinking his life away instead of making decisions, due to the way this country was running, and running out of a future, due to the alcohol, quit drinking heavily. It's painful to look at because this is maybe the half of it, with my own family--and then there's the drinking on my in-law's side. But those of us who came out of this either learned moderation, or had to quit altogether. What helped for us is that we're control freaks. You lose a lot of control, being drunk.

Another Uncle refused to quit drinking, killed himself with the alcohol, and hurt his daughters whenever he was drunk. So we have our failures.

Smoking can kill you--quite painfully, and at a high cost. Smoking can alter your hormones (emotions), but I'd rather die from smoking than putting my family through yet another uncontrolled alcoholic ANY DAY. ANY LIFETIME! You have to have nearly a whole family full of potentially dangerous drinkers to know what I'm talking about--and from what I've heard this goes way back in our families.

So, all of us should be for prohibition, right? Not at all. The moment you make this illegal, you set up another crime world, like the gangs of the prohibition era. Prohibited items FUEL black markets. We don't need to feed the monster by making something illegal.


reply posted on 28-6-2012 @ 12:41 PM by Silcone Synapse
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska



I wonder that myself-will it affect dopamine levels/serotonin uptake?

But hey no problem-they have more drugs to sell you to restore those back to normal,even beyond normal...
Whay hey,more profits for the pharma engineers!!!

Soon they will invent a vaccine that makes everyone who take its want MORE VACCINES.

Inevitable when so called "medication" is left in the hands of corporate giants,who number one concern is profit,not healing the sick.
Sad state we have allowed to develop,worldwide IMO.



reply posted on 28-6-2012 @ 12:50 PM by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by FlyersFan



You raise a good point that I failed to think of (probably because I'm Canadian).

I could totally see Obamacare and it's mandates requiring children to get this, if it were ever to complete clinical trials and hit the market.

The already try and push the HPV vaccine on young people among other things, so if this were to become required I would not be surprised.


reply posted on 28-6-2012 @ 12:52 PM by Corruption Exposed
Originally posted by Numbers33four
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post by Corruption Exposed



the unintended consequences will be horrific...or are they unintended?


That's a very good question.

The conspiracy nut in me wants to say that any concequences will be intended with the intention of causing the need for more drugs to alleviate the consequences.

These people are crazy for trying to manipulate the human body in the fashion that they do.
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