Healthcare Ruling: Individual Mandate Ruled CONSTITUTIONAL, entire law upheld.

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

I love how everyone is saying that the SCOTUS has gotten it wrong, that they are corrupt, that they need to be kicked out...but if they would have struck it down...these people would have been praising them.

You got that right..


Been a good week for Obama despite the fact that many said it would be a bad week.

HUGE week for Obama.

But now we have to hear Republicans campaign soley on repealing this bill.

I just heard that Cantor said that they are going to begin the repeal process next week Nothing like wasting more time and resources Republicans...they know that isn't going to pass.

reply to post by EvilSadamClone

Liberals always try to shove things down people's throat they don't want and can never take no for an answer.

Whereas conservatives decry government safety nets as "socialism" until they lose their jobs or retire; then they become first in line to collect unemployment or Social Security.

Picking up some interesting tidbits from CNBC. They're interviewing this Fortune 500 CEO, who says he is not going to hire more people, but he is going to throw alot into getting his employees healthy in the hopes of decreasing their unwellness. He said we have a trillion dollar mandate with not much a way to fund it, and it will (may) bankrupt Medicare.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

And this "tax" is only imposed as a penalty...for most people, they won't pay this tax.

Love how you put 'tax' in quotes. Even you know it's bogus although you don't want to come out and say it.

So it is a 'tax' when we need this bill to be passed/constitutional but it isn't really so much and is kind of, you know, more of a 'penalty' in reality.

I guess the speaking out of both sides of one's mouth now begins.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
First off...he didn't break that promise...he actually lowered taxes.

Tell us how imposing this new national massive TAX is somehow lowering taxes??
This ought to be interesting.

i really sick to my Stomach

Im a slave to the system, the chains are now tighter

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
First off...he didn't break that promise...he actually lowered taxes. Let's not start with false information in this thread.

And this "tax" is only imposed as a penalty...for most people, they won't pay this tax.

Actually Obama lied to the American people about this.

Obama in 2009: The Individual Mandate Is Not a Tax

reply to post by EvilSadamClone

And the saddest part is they'll fine anybody who can't afford it because you have to pay for the healthcare. That's what makes it the biggest scam in the planet.

People who can't afford should be going on State medicaid.

If a State decides not to expand it as planned...then they are just screwing over their people.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

But now we have to hear Republicans campaign soley on repealing this bill.

And with over 2/3 of the American people in opposition to the Bill.....

It should be an easy sell for the Republicans.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

I just heard that Cantor said that they are going to begin the repeal process next week Nothing like wasting more time and resources Republicans...they know that isn't going to pass.

Just their usual dog and pony show.

What about the economy they keep complaining about?

you would think that would be a bigger priority..

reply to post by DJW001


Or call them entitlement programs and say anybody on welfare thinks they're entitled to it and bemoan the poor poor people who have no jobs because there is none in the area.

See? NEITHER PARTY gives a damned about us, they only give a damned about the money their corporate elitist masters give them.

But liberals are far worse than conservatives. Because they try to hide behind a cover of tolerance and morality while conservatives don't make any bones about what they're doing.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
People who can't afford should be going on State medicaid.
If a State decides not to expand it as planned...then they are just screwing over their people.

The states aren't 'deciding not to expand'. They simply can't afford it.
And where do you think the states get the money to 'expand' medicaid?
FROM NEW HIGHER TAXES.

Again ... nothing is free. Obama is forcing a raise in taxes across the board to everyone.

reply to post by jam321


Do you think this doesnt impact the economy?

It does so, and in a hugely negative way.

reply to post by FlyersFan

The official language of the SCOTUS was that this is NOT a penalty. (they read the ruling on TV saying that) It's a tax. Obama said it wasn't a tax. The SCOTUS said it definately IS a tax. A tax if you don't buy their product. Which means it really is a penalty tax even if they deny it.

Yes, it is a penalty administered as a tax...which according to the SCOTUS is Constitutional.

You can't say that 'most people' won't pay this tax. You assume that the healthy younger crowd (under 40) will pony up and buy the gov't insurance rather than pay the lesser TAX that has now been imposed on them.

And that is their choice.

reply to post by TheTardis


and doctors and nurses will be in even higher demand..helping the economy .

reply to post by butcherguy

It should be an easy sell for the Republicans.

But the overwhelming majority of Americans want the healthcare system fixed. The Republicans cannot run on a negative; they will need to find an alternative solution. Meanwhile, Democratic candidates can also campaign on repealing the bill and providing a better alternative. Romney can kiss "Obamanomics" good-bye.

Originally posted by Saucerwench
Picking up some interesting tidbits from CNBC. They're interviewing this Fortune 500 CEO, who says he is not going to hire more people, but he is going to throw alot into getting his employees healthy in the hopes of decreasing their unwellness. He said we have a trillion dollar mandate with not much a way to fund it, and it will (may) bankrupt Medicare.

I was wondering this myself. Medicare was already headed towards insolvency, is this "tax" supposed to fix this problem, made much worse by how many more people that will be on Medicare?

me thinks someones pockets just got fat.

"seriously?"- I said to myself

This is some Twighlight Zone re-run type of Horror Movie..

::slaps self:: wake up!

Reply to post by Alxandro

Alexandro

Actually, didn't Bush appoint justice Roberts? You know, the one who outlined this ruling?
There is no partisan angle to this. Corporate America wins, which is what all in Washington are there to for.


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