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Healthcare Ruling: Individual Mandate Ruled CONSTITUTIONAL, entire law upheld.

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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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This will dwarf medicaid. The projections are 1 trillion a year. So where are we going to get that money? Oh thats right we will just print it. This isn't a child board game. We have gone from a civil society wehre you go to work to a society of being taken care of with fake money. What?




posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by niceguybob

Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by niceguybob
And I had to pull MY kid out of public school because 80% of the kids didn't speak English and it was a waste of her time!


You pulled your kid out of school because 80% of the kids spoke another language? I pay -extra- for that privilege.


Really? You think MAKING my kid learn Spanish should be mandatory at 8 because the rest of the class can't understand English?

Good for you man.


Why not? If the majority of students don't speak English... why should it be an English public school?


Well, If they were American citizens, I would tend to agree with you.
If their parents snuck across the border just to give birth in the U.S. and have their medical payed,get their kids a free ride through all 12 years of schooling and DID'NT break the State of California financially, it would be fine right?
OHHHH But California is broke between illegals and the pension plan. Ahhhh Who cares though right?
Me either. Obama will find the money. heheheheh Now let's give everyone medical and amnesty.
Perfect storm.
AND If he DOESN'T get reelected? Al Sharpton and his "posse" are ready to roll Bro. You watch.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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How can you possibly take anyone seriously, on a logical level that says sign the bill and then we'll read it?


Because that's not what she said. So how am I supposed to take someone seriously who mis-quotes people to attempt to spread false propaganda???



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by niceguybob

Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by niceguybob

Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by niceguybob
And I had to pull MY kid out of public school because 80% of the kids didn't speak English and it was a waste of her time!


You pulled your kid out of school because 80% of the kids spoke another language? I pay -extra- for that privilege.


Really? You think MAKING my kid learn Spanish should be mandatory at 8 because the rest of the class can't understand English?

Good for you man.


Why not? If the majority of students don't speak English... why should it be an English public school?


Well, If they were American citizens, I would tend to agree with you.
If their parents snuck across the border just to give birth in the U.S. and have their medical payed,get their kids a free ride through all 12 years of schooling and DID'NT break the State of California financially, it would be fine right?
OHHHH But California is broke between illegals and the pension plan. Ahhhh Who cares though right?
Me either. Obama will find the money. heheheheh Now let's give everyone medical and amnesty.
Perfect storm.
AND If he DOESN'T get reelected? Al Sharpton and his "posse" are ready to roll Bro. You watch.


Oh, so you are one of those guys that think children should be punished for the choices of their parents.

I'm still at a loss as to why you don't want your kid learning another language..



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by stanguilles7
The amount of spin from the Right to frame this as 'socialist is retarded. It's a pro-business giveaway to the insurance industry. The final legislation is a shell of what Obama originally proposed, mainly because of the blue/yellow dogs in congress.
All Obama has to do is nationalise the insurance companies. . . .


What!?!?!?

On what planet is that remotely possible? Really, Beezer? You want Obama to be a communist so bad that you're implying he may nationalize insurance co.????

He just did them the biggest favor of their lives.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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source: blog.heritage.org...



Americans who feel overtaxed already are in store for a shocker: Obamacare will add 17 new taxes or penalties for a whopping cost of $502 billion over its first 10 years.


I think that is BS, it will probably be much much more. If we are still America in 2019.
edit on 28-6-2012 by R3KR because: (no reason given)


washingtonexaminer.com...
There alot of opinions on this an its hard to say exactly how much, but probably 500 Billion - 2 Trillion over the next 10 years.
edit on 29-6-2012 by R3KR because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by R3KR
 


This will dwarf medicaid. The projections are 1 trillion a year. So where are we going to get that money? Oh thats right we will just print it. This isn't a child board game. We have gone from a civil society wehre you go to work to a society of being taken care of with fake money. What?


Where are you getting projections of 1 trillion a year???



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by R3KR
reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS
 


Was looking into it, will be about 4 trillion in about 10 years. But I think it will be much much much more. Probably 10 trillion at least.


And where are you getting your numbers???

Sources please and thank you.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Their kids can stay, send the parents back. Oh wait they don't want that as over 20 million voters are illegal aliens voting. Now how are they supposed to be able to vote? Well the pundits don't want them to leave because actually they go out and vote while lazy Americans sit at home and watch American Idol and don't vote.

I remember a tactic in my community years back where they went and picked up bums in a bus, fed them and took them to the voting booths to vote(dems did this one).

The latest one was registering their dogs(one got caught doing it). The laundry list goes on and on. If people only knew



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Damn you guys are fast.
Sorry, I corrected it, those were off.
edit on 29-6-2012 by R3KR because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Latest new projections just out 17 trillion to the nation’s long-term unfunded liabilities. Just out now...google it



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
reply to post by Furbs
 


Their kids can stay, send the parents back. Oh wait they don't want that as over 20 million voters are illegal aliens voting. Now how are they supposed to be able to vote? Well the pundits don't want them to leave because actually they go out and vote while lazy Americans sit at home and watch American Idol and don't vote.

I remember a tactic in my community years back where they went and picked up bums in a bus, fed them and took them to the voting booths to vote(dems did this one).

The latest one was registering their dogs(one got caught doing it). The laundry list goes on and on. If people only knew


Oh, so bums shouldn't be allowed to vote either, eh?



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
Latest new projections just out 17 trillion to the nation’s long-term unfunded liabilities. Just out now...google it


Define "long term"

I can say anything is going to cost 17 trillion dollars...if I project it over a long enough period.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by Wolf321
There is no provision in this law for me. I can't afford insurace, or medicaid. I don't want government health care. I simply want to be left alone to be sick and die if I choose, without having to face a punishment tax for existing as a human being in the USA.

I'm not even free to die anymore.


I have to agree with you on this.
Thank you for making me laugh too
. I needed it.
Rather extreme, but you're not too far off.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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edit on 29-6-2012 by spinalremain because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by R3KR
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


This?
www.therightscoop.com...


That doesn't define "long term"

Is "long term" 10 years...100 years...200 years???

"long term" is a generic term...assigning a dollar amount over a generic time period does not make sense.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by R3KR
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


This?
www.therightscoop.com...


Universal Health Care would cut that number drastically.

115 Billion a year (2,500 dollar average cost of care per person in the US including any undocumented people) is chump change compared to what we spend killing people in other countries.

truecostblog.com...



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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You got that shhhhuuuppphhh from "the right scoop"?
I'll log that one with the chick pushing Limbaugh.
Hahahaha



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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It's still unconstitutional, regardless of Roberts' mild stroke.


You are free to have that opinion...although your opinion doesn't matter.





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