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Originally posted by dxdydz
reply to post by Djayed
A better solution would have been to tax everyone and use it to give everyone free health care. They could have done it under national defense or just expanded medicare and medicaid for everyone.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Americans have a deficit when it comes to collective social responsibility. As individuals they can be great, kind and generous to a fault. But as a society they lack a sense of the big picture.
Originally posted by AkumaStreak
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
I cant even believe this crap. How can they freaking force us to buy something?
Same way you force everyone else to pay when you get sick.
Originally posted by THEDUDE86
reply to post by TheRedneck
recessions don't last forever...so based on your logic this will be pretty good once the economy goes forward
I believe this will drive down medical cost, as it has in Massachusetts
Originally posted by dawnstar
okay, so I found out I have cancer, tell me, please, how does this do me any good if I don't have the $$$ to pay what the insurance won't for the treatment?? go, check how much it would cost to treat cancer. I have an extra insurance policy just in case this happens that I pay myself!! It wouldn't affect our budget that much!! but I betcha it would put your finances well beyond the gutter!
Originally posted by camaro68ss
I can now be forced by the goverment to buy whatever they see fit.
I remember the days when in america men were free.......
Originally posted by Djayed
Originally posted by dxdydz
reply to post by Djayed
A better solution would have been to tax everyone and use it to give everyone free health care. They could have done it under national defense or just expanded medicare and medicaid for everyone.
I agree that is a much better solution! We just need to make change with our current system, I really hope Obamacare leads to your solution, but the republican party wouldn't have ever let that fly off the bat, way to much of a "socialist" change. I could just hear fox news....
Originally posted by timetothink
That's the theory I heard, Marg, that Roberts is playing a game of chess with this. He is labeling the Dems with the big scarlet "T" for tax...it's a dangerous game if that's what he is doing.
Originally posted by Sly1one
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
So let me get this straight, I will have more taxes taken out to pay for my medical needs and everyone Else's medical needs even if they aren't paying taxes themselves.
So in a sense I just added 350 million people to my insurance benefits at my place of work? So even though Joe Blow eats a buffet once or twice a day smokes in-between breathes and drinks as much as he breathes I am expected to help cover the cost via taxes of his insanely self-destructive lifestyle and obvious inevitable medical intervention costs?
saweeeeet
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
I cant even believe this crap. How can they freaking force us to buy something? Ill take the fine, itll be cheaper than the insurance premiums.
The only silver lining in this is it doesnt fully go into effect until 2014 - It will be repealed by then.. I am going to predict a major turnover in Congress with people running and being voted in on repealing this.
Originally posted by AkumaStreak
I am a fan of so many of you spouting nonsense today... makes me sad. Free country, you're entitled to your opinion. Talk about freedom to the countless people who have lost everything due to our health care system. What a joke!edit on 6/28/2012 by AkumaStreak because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by randomname
if it's a tax then why do you have to purchase insurance.
if you pay the fine, (excuse me chief justice, "tax".) then you should automatically get coverage.
Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by Carseller4
maybe I am wrong, but it seems that he may have just assured a republican win for the upcoming elections....
this might even convince me to vote for the republicans, although I have some doubt if romney would do anything about it.. I mean, he was the the originator of the framework for obamacare, wasn't he?
but if that is it, that he's was mainly trying to boost romney's chances...
well...he made the decision on purely political motives. irregardless to the laws. if this was to be found to be true, I would say that he should be removed from the bench!!
Originally posted by timetothink
But is it worth it? Now we have this Scotus decision that sets a precedent to force us to buy anything....I can't believe he would do that.