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is just insane
Originally posted by travisirius
Does your job carry your health insurance? Most people have this. Tax is only those with no health insurance.
Originally posted by Sparky63
Originally posted by clearmind
..... and what happens if you decide you dont want to pay the mandate..err, sorry..tax? jailtime buddy.....
that said what about 'alternative medicine'? not covered now..sooo..gunna have to pay the insurance company AND pay out of pocket for your 'alternative healthcare'
i wonder what they will mandate next??
Don't pay for medical insurance and don't pay the fine and you will go to jail. Then you get free medical care. Wait...what?
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by marg6043
is just insane
It is insane, Marg, everyday I wonder about the sanity of the people in government, unless it is all part of a plan we don't know about yet, but have long suspected, that is the only way I can't wrap my mind around it, they are trying to bring the country down.
Originally posted by Sparky63
Originally posted by Wolf321
How Americans aren't up in literal arms over this boggles the mind. It is not a tax since we are not getting something directly for it. It is a penalty.
Most Americans don't even understand what just happened to them. I still hear people rejoicing about getting free health care, when nothing could be further from the truth. The reality will set in when their insurance premiums start to creep up if they haven't already, or when their company downsizes or drops their health care all together. Then they will be forced to use this "exchange" to buy their health insurance. If anyone thinks that it will be cheaper in the long run for the average
hard working American, I have a bridge to sell you.
As legal scholars study the Supreme Court's decision in the Obamacare case, more and more are concluding that Justice Anthony Kennedy's dissenting opinion, striking down the law in its entirety, was once the majority opinion--and that Chief Justice John Roberts switched his vote at a late stage.
The fact that the Chief Justice's reasoning is so flimsy is yet another piece of evidence that he may have made a late switch--and under pressure. Congress did not intend the individual mandate to be a tax--neither in the text of the legislation, nor in its public deliberations inside and outside the Capitol. (If it had chosen to go that route, the left might have put forward a far stronger argument for universal government-run health care.) It is correct that Chief Justice Roberts has tended to defer to Congress, as conservatives do--but while this opinion has the form of deference, in substance it is the opposite of deferential, rewriting Obamacare by judicial fiat
Who are the Uninsured?
Age: The uninsured are disproportionately between the ages of 18 and 34. However, 18-24 year-olds were the only age group to experience a significant decline in the percentage without insurance over the past year, from 29.3% in 2009 to 27.2% in 2010, which represents 500,000 fewer young adults without health insurance. The Affordable Care Act allows children to remain on their parents’ plans until age 26, and this policy took effect for insurance plan renewals beginning on September 23, 2010.
Race/Ethnicity: In 2010, three in ten individuals of Hispanic origin (30.7%) were uninsured. Blacks were also more likely to be uninsured, with 20.8% lacking insurance, and 18.1% of Asians were uninsured, compared to 11.7% for non-Hispanic whites.
Employment: Working full-time increases the likelihood of having insurance, though one in seven full-time workers (15.0%) was still uninsured. Uninsured rates were higher among those with a marginal attachment to the labor force. Over a quarter (28.5%) of part-time workers were uninsured, the same percentage as among those who were unemployed.
Income: Individuals with lower incomes are more likely to be uninsured, although 37% of all uninsured Americans have household incomes above $50,000.
Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
Hypothetically, if there were no Obama administration and plan, what would/could officials be doing to lower costs? I am not trying to defend this admin, just seeking clarification and alternatives.
So between the gov, the state, the ins co's and the hospitals, who is gouging us with high prices and what other alternatives are there to address this? Who is it that decides a single q-tip(cotton on a stick) costs $3.50 and a roll of gauze costs $11.50 when the hospital bills the ins co?(yes I have seen a bill that had this on it) Why?
Sorry for the confusionishness