UK ready to take on Israel over fate of children clapped in irons

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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by DarkKnight21

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by buster2010
goyim


I liken the Jewish usage of the word "goyim" to the US use of the word "alien" when they are describing people who are not US citizens in their country. It's bloody rude to say the very least and is reflective of how they view the outside world beyond their borders.


And Infidel is what, a term of endearment?

Your ethics would riase eyebrows in the Court of Caligula.....
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Do you even know what the word Infidel means? And if you think it only pertains to Islam you are wrong because Christians use it also.

Christian definition of Infidel. a person who does not accept a particular faith, especially Christianity.

Islams definition of Infidel a person who does not accept the Islamic faith.

If you find the word Infidel as a bad insult then you need to toughen your skin up a little because it's too thin.


...And yet you choose to ignore the fact that Jesus says, "love the infidels", while Mohammad says "kill the infidels". Not that either side has entirely succeeded, but just because you define something with a negative connotation doesn't make it true.
edit on 6/28/2012 by DarkKnight21 because: (no reason given)


Seems like you forgot to add a few words like a lot of people who pick and choose verses always do. Islam only allows a follower to kill infidels if they are fighting you first to kill a person for not believing in Islam would go against the teaching of Muhammad.

verse 190, Surah 190 says:
"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."

There is also three times as much violence in the Bible than the Qur'an so the love the infidel is pretty much a lie huh?
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More judgment, negative connotations and false assumptions. Bottom line: A book that condones hate and vengeance, or a book that suggests turning the other cheek?

Say what you will, but I'll take the latter thanks. I'm not in the propaganda business. I still think you're victimizing the wrong people.
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Yep, I just checked. You attributed some of Djacks post to me. What is completely unbelievable is that you would have had to deliberately type my name in to attribute them to me, as the quotes came from the same post you quoted first by Djack.

What the hell are you playing at hmmm?

Wow, you have invented a whole new level of ignorance. Congratulations. Thanks for completely proving my point that you are literally making things up to suit your argument.

Poor form.
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Lets see now.
The Palestinians tell their children to kill the Jew every day on Tv and we don't hear anything about that from the UK. Seems like a double standard to me.
Actually, it is. Both sides are wrong but everyone knows that nothing is going to stop either side from doing what they do best and that is to say how the others are bad and should die.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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UK ready to take on Israel over fate of children clapped in irons .

Maybe , just maybe .

with Sir Gerald Kauffman and Lady Baroness Tonge

we , the british should immediately expunge any zionists from our country , and bar their entry , and block trade from israel .

It what the norwegians were doing , just before they had an anders brevik outbreak .ats thread ,// evil incarnate

maybe its because the further north you go , the fairer in general people are .
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Nope - however it wouldnt change the fact that we both answered your question. You just simply choose to ignore it because you cant refute the argument.




Xcat you have me in tears bro! You pull this crap in every thread. Please point out where the other member answered Muckster's question.

Smoke screens and lies don't make it the truth.

Your explanation was rather off as well.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
But the zionist emissary would say that.

How else can you justify bursting into family homes and snatching children?


Palestinian kids raised for war


Palestinian children are taught to hate Jews, to glorify “jihad” (holy war), violence, death and child martyrdom almost from birth, as an essential part of their culture and destiny.

WND


Where is your outrage at Palestinians sending kids off to be suicide bombers?

You would rather complain about Isrealis arresting them.

You do have an agenda.


Thats the problem. Most cant see past their own noses to notice where the problem starts and why it is the way it is.

Though, no matter what, to these people, Israel will always be wrong, always. impossible to be correct, ever.

Israel could feed every hungry mouth in the world, can win the nobel peace prize, can end world war...

as long as their is a kid holding a fully auto machine gun, shouting how israel must fall, it will ALWAYS be Israels fault. After all, the world needs a scape goat, right?


(sigh) I wish people would actually take note and listen to what they are saying and how silly they sound.

Israel citizen killed, arrested or tortured... Justifiable! Just cause! Neo Zionistic... They are the reason for the worlds woes!

Israel defending itself, rounding up potentual child terrorrist, that is unheard of! This is an attrocity! This can not happen in todays world! How dare Israel!


See.. that's exactly how I see the world react when Israel has anything to do with anything about anything. Every time, you can bet, Israel will be in thw wrong, no matter how much those people are trying to keep others from taking them out. Where does the line get drawn already?

This is the most silly sillyness Ive ever witnessed in my life. It truely amaizes me how many people are blind to just humanity in general. Everyone has to have a reason and or blame to stand above any and all faults of their own, these days. Like you're more important if you call someone else out on the things you do, so long as the attention is not drawn to you, what matters? As long as Israel is the scape goat, the world does not need anyone else to blame. We're doing just fine putting it all on lil olde israel. For such a small country, it sure keeps the world up in arms. How important they must be... Right? We act upon it this way, so it must be the most important land in all the universe.

Sorry folks, I still dont get it.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Brave american-jewish kid



Police violently arresting a Jewish teenager in Jerusalem for speaking the truth and charged him for "attacking and biting a police officer" !!! For one American Jewish teenager, this year's Jerusalem Day earlier this month turned out to be an event not to remember, as he was detained for two days on suspicion of attacking and biting a police officer.




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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Convient you left out the first quote where the person I was responding to was Djack. All my responses were suppose to be to him and I accidentally copied your name insted of his while I was posting my responses. Since all the propoganda and denials from you guys are the same its easy to see how I got the names confused.

Get over yourself and check your overly dramatic protests at the door.
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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Treating children like this is poo.
If you think treating children like this is acceptable I class you in the same department that I class the Nazis my Grandfather fought against. I don't care your genetic structure or the deity you imagine condones this behavior you are wrong.
You are wrong to condone this you are wrong to justify this you are wrong. Your wrong to keep this hate alive your wrong to keep this agenda going. Your wrong.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


If Israel stopped committing genocide on them, do you think that perhaps the Palestinians would stop retaliating?

Nah, that would make too much sense wouldn't it.


Let's look at the empirical evidence. Israel left both Lebanon and Gaza. It made no difference in the hostility in attitude towards Israel.

Hezbollah was attacking Israeli with rockets for years, and then Israel attacked them. After ta minor war, Hezbollah has moved back from the border and is no longer sending rockets. Israel is no longer attacking them. The empirical observations appears to be that a partial military victory against Hezbollah (they have moved back from the border) resulted in a a lack of Hezbollah attacks and that has led to a lack of Israeli attacks.

For supposed Zionist supermen they are apparently really, really, really bad at genocide given how preposterously overpopulated Gaza is.

I'm opposed to the colonial settler's movement too, but the Israelis are not genocidal, or suicidal.
I think that Gaza is Egyptian territory and West Bank is Jordanian territory. I also do not consider it axiomatic that these areas have to be---funny there's a word for it---Judenrein .
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by ZIPMATT
UK ready to take on Israel over fate of children clapped in irons .

Maybe , just maybe .

with Sir Gerald Kauffman and Lady Baroness Tonge

we , the british should immediately expunge any zionists from our country , and bar their entry , and block trade from israel .


Which Jews are not considered to be Zionist?



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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This world is a evil place. Learn that, bickering about who did what and who is doing what isn't solving anything. Most of us are aware of these issues. Most of us live in a country where things are nice and filtered for us...Sad thing is, change won't happen. These countries and people have been fighting like this for thousands of years...We can't change their views. They are basically to the point where it is embedded in their DNA. HATE is a bad word, but it's all they know.

-SAP-



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Thanks for posting this news story. Don't expect to see it anywhere in the MSPZM (Mainstream pro-zionist Media).

And of course when a story like this surfaces, all the pro-zionist trolls come out from underneath their rocks to deflect from the story at hand. So what if Palestinian children are propagandized to hate their occupying enemy. That's no excuse to treat children like this.

And by the way, US and Israeli children are propagandized just as much via tv. In fact, US and Israeli adults are propagandized and brainwashed constantly. Look at all the tv shows and movies with the bad buys being Arab terrorists. Look at all the video games with the bad guys being Middle Eastern terrorists. And look at all the pro-war, anti-human rights rhetoric of most all news pundits when discussing matters involving the Middle East.

Israeli is a rogue nuclear nation that has illegally occupied Palestine for nearly 50 years. It practices ethnic cleansing and it uses weapons against civilians in contravention of the Geneva Conventions. It also uses tactics pioneered by the Waffen SS against Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto during WWII.

Defenders of Israel cannot defend Israel's actions as they are indefensible. Therefore they point the finger elsewhere, to try to deflect the blame.

Besides all Israel does to Palestians and other peoples in the Middle East, it also kills US citizens with bulldozers, i.e. Rachel Corrie, spys on the US and strafes US ships, i.e. The US Liberty. it is no friend of the US, and only use us to further its own quest for hegemony in the Middle East.

The family of nations should make Israel into a pariah nation as is North Korea. And certainly the US should cut off all aid to this vampire nation until it starts following international law.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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The world is also a lovely good place but everything what happens which is good never makes the news.
I think every news show should end on a good note like the kids news show newsround.



Eeee brings back memories that.
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Muckster
Please show me where YOU answered my question directly... you know, your own words not silly propaganda photos and links to websites... Your own answer!!

If you did reply with an honest and straightforward answer (of your own words) and i missed it then i will apologise... but i honestly can’t see it anywhere... just show me where you answered or provide an answer!

It’s a simple question that just needs a simple answer!!


I have answered your question. Please read it and feel free to quote it and tell me what you think is wrong with it. Feel free to go into detail.

I note that you have refused to answer the question I have asked you, yet demand that I answer your questions twice.


In other circumstances physical restraints should only be applied in exceptional circumstances and for the shortest possible period of time. They should not be used as an alternative to other physical measures of security.

For example, it is never permissible to keep prisoners chained by the ankle or wrist to walls or to long iron bars, either individually or in groups, simply because the physical security of buildings is very weak.

Physical restraints should not be used as a matter of course when a prisoner is being transferred from one location to another, either within a prison or outside the prison. In each case, their use should be based on an individual assessment of the risk posed by the prisoner.

UN


Perhaps you can give us the details of the crime the boy was charged with and the individual assessment carred out on the one child observed to have had ankle restraints while in court?

Was he a flight risk? Why was only one child observed to be wearing ankle restraints?

What age was this 'child'? anyway?

You want me to tell you if it was wrong to use ankle clamps on the child?

If you can answer the above questions, then I am happy to give you a much deeper answer.

I'm waiting...



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by Reignite

i think this page shows enough evidence:

"palestion boy israeli soldier on google"

no less then 251,000 results


I tried it. I put in palestinian child suicide bomber and I got 1,710,000 results

Try it yourself Google



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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Wow........I have a hard time believing this! If this really is TRUE, then we need to think of them as no different than Warlord Kony, Khaddafi, Nazi Germany, and other regimes who have harmed children and civilians. To remain allies with such a government reflects very poorly on Britain and the US. How are we going to expect people/nations to trust us if we allow this??? I just really really hope it isn't true...
I hope these guys are making up stories... I hope...



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by iIuminaIi
Brave american-jewish kid



Police violently arresting a Jewish teenager in Jerusalem for speaking the truth and charged him for "attacking and biting a police officer" !!! For one American Jewish teenager, this year's Jerusalem Day earlier this month turned out to be an event not to remember, as he was detained for two days on suspicion of attacking and biting a police officer.




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he's a child! What does he know?

So, the words of children are the desiding factor here of where intelligence lies?

Cmon now. If these kids are so smart, so in tuned, so know it all, how the hell are they still in school?

Not to mention, dont we get upset in america when someone from iran talks down to us and tells us how we should and are/are not living out lives in our country? How is this any diffrent than an american snot nosed kid with an opinion, going off into another country and telling those people how to live?

So the kid is Jewish... Does that mean he's Israelie or american. Being jewish does not give you rights to speak on behalf of a country of a diffrent name, who just happens to also be jewish.... That's like the PotUS telling the pope that since he himself is catholic, and the Prez, he himself should also be pope because he is catholic. No mention or bother of the fact that the pope runs rome and the prez runs the US, two totaly diffrent countries with their own rules, regulations, and way of life.

That's like your neighbor walking into your home and telling you that you should be using the semfi 1000 unit instead of the junkmod 3.5 unit that you have been using and if you dont change it, he'll burn your house down because it doesnt jive with what the rest of the hood is using for a garbage disposal.

This isnt just country wide. This ignorance is world wide. There are no borders for stupid.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 01:37 AM
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OK, the thing it's that I do not support violence from both sides, zionist or muslim, In my opinion, both religions are a threat for the rest of the world. any theocratic country it's a threat to evolution and peace. so they must be erased from history.
Enough idiocy with fairy tales about allah or yahwe, money or whaterever your gods are-
enough idiocy like "god chosen people" and god promised land that's completely BS
enough idiocy like yihad.
enough idiocy like freedom wars orchestrated by Money worshiper countries like US, UK and the rest of the NATO gang







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