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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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The Real Problem With Multiculturalism

LET US BEGIN by dispensing with the coy euphemization of multiculturalism as a stand-in for multiracialism, as if minorities were public restrooms or some other entity requiring verbal camouflage to appear in polite society. Let us take multiculturalism in its only possible honest sense as meaning the idea that individuals, institutions, and nations should possess a multitude of different cultures. In that case, the ultimate problem with multiculturalism is none of the things that have been eloquently dissected in this magazine. It is that multiculturalism does not really believe in what ought logically to be its core concept: culture.

Multiculturalism cannot answer the question of why we should value culture in the first place. Why should we have any culture at all, since it causes so much trouble? Why not just have consumer products? And if multiculturalism can give no reason why we should have any culture at all, it has no reason why we should have a multitude of cultures. The best answer one can get out of multiculturalists on this question is just identity politics, the postmodern version of what the old Tammany machine in New York used to call the Balanced Ticket and the Three I’s (Ireland, Italy, and Israel). Culture has no particular value, but as long as it exists, let the pie be divided equally like any other sort of patronage. Like all sorts of patronage, the act of division introduces corruption.

It follows from this little critique that if conservatives are to offer a serious alternative to multiculturalism, we must have a serious idea of what culture is for. The key to answering this question is to look at the origin of the word. First used in its present sense by philosopher Immanuel Kant, Kultur in the German is ultimately derived from the same root as the English agriculture. In its original meaning, it meant what we would now call self-cultivation, i.e. the cultivation of the individual consciousness through exposure to the arts. It presumes the idea that the consciousness is just as worthy of cultivation and perfection as the body. This is why we insist on a hierarchy of culture, as higher forms of art impart a greater refinement to the consciousness and give it objects of higher quality on which to form itself. "Shaping taste" is an extremely superficial way of describing it, but not misguided. The concept of taste is the tip of a far more important iceberg, the question what objects this consciousness has formed itself on and come to be moved by. What attracts it? Garbage, or things of real quality? This is all motivated, ultimately, by a sense that what a man’s consciousness amounts to is an essential component of what he amounts to as a human being, what he is worth.

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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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"That this cultivation requires culture, i.e. the property of a community and not just an individual, is caused by the fact that individuals on their own cannot sustain culture, one of whose essential attributes is communication. Therefore culture tends to be the property of groups of people who communicate with each other, i.e. societies. Nietzsche said a culture was a group of people who understand each other. Because it takes time to build up a culture, cultures tend to be the property of groups of people who have done this for some time, i.e. nations grounded in history. Because it takes time to learn and requires real, not virtual, circumstances, individuals tend to belong to only one culture. Because the upper rungs are hard to reach without the lower, this is especially true in the case of high culture. The objective of culture is the cultivated person, what the Germans used to call the gebildete Mensch, the first word having a root related to "build," also to the German word for education.

Multiculturalism makes a mockery of this. It asks people who haven’t even learned their own culture yet to learn another. How are students supposed to learn someone else’s culture when they don’t yet know what it is to learn a culture or even to have a culture? It is hard enough to learn one’s own, and probably harder today than it used to be, now that high culture lacks the authority it once commanded and low culture has exploded in technical sophistication and ubiquity. More likely, they will learn neither, and their culture will in fact be the same child-centered commercial pop culture they came to college with—which is to say, they will have learned nothing, and probably wasted their only serious chance of a lifetime to do so. Multiculturalism therefore produces what we can call the default to the lowest common denominator. It is not a philosophy of freedom of choice; it is a philosophy that imposes the lowest common denominator on people who have no choice in the matter. "

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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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I still don't understand what you're getting at... not 'all' mixing is bad but it can be used to gain an upper hand? What upper hand? Minorities are benefiting from the dilution of White Anglo-America?

I'm not sure if you're one of those "anti-racist is a codeword for" people, but here's a counter-argument that's just as sound. There are anti-interracial blacks who have this idea that when black professionals (usually men) marry outside of their race (specifically to white women), that their finances are being 'stolen' from the black community. Sounds crazy, right?

Well, marriage isn't just about love. It's a business partnership. Like all business partnerships, marriage doesn't always last forever. When the inevitable happens, these resourceful, upper middle-class white women take HALF (the old Eddie Murphy adage) and that money belongs to the 'white' community thereafter. Happens to numerous black professionals in several employment sectors.

So yeah, it happens, but you're not going to say it's an intentional sabotage of the 'black' community, right? So this idea of anyone getting intentionally slighted is ridiculous. This type of disinfo gets spread around in a rather unique way. The prejudices we already hold are harnessed and cultivated to supply the elites with the ultimate divide and conquer 'agenda' (people really love that word).

Best method of distribution of disinformation available: the jumping to conclusions and making a mountain out of a molehill. Trust me dude, forget those bad experiences. We've all had 'em, and tarring everything with the same brush is exactly what 'they' want you to do.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Um...who exactly is saying money is being stolen from the black community? I have never heard that one, its silly though. Why? Because a person's personal wealth has no bearing on the economic status of people who are the same race as said person.


 
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posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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She obviously didn't get the memo



You can't use a tanning booth and go from that to this...


or this....


As a mixed woman...I have to make fun of the topic at hand. It's interesting....however, mixing genes is not a bad thing...as a matter of fact, it's quite the opposite IMVHO.

Of course, I can only speak from EXPERIENCE
Mixed Races

ETA
I am not going to give any opinion one way or another about the topic...except that I find it as entertaining as the first photo in my post

edit on 6/28/12 by hathorschild because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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That's exactly why I brought it up. That particular argument in the race debate is bogus, as is the "anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white" argument. I was hoping that by showing the OP a ridiculous argument from the other side and comparing it to the thread's premise would do some good.

I'd link you the exact video that explained the claim in detail, but it's been taken off of Youtube for inciting hate speech. Go figure! Of course, all this will do is provoke "race realists" because they think they've been silenced. XD



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Culture Wars (April 2011)

(edited and abridged by Henry Makow )

Wall Street Journal columnist Dorothy Rabinowitz is worried about Major Nidel Malik Hasan who opened fire in Fort Hood killing 12 fellow soldiers and wounding 32 others. Rabinowitz attributes this attack to a combination of "Hasan's well-documented jihadist sympathies" and multiculturalism.

Associating multiculturalism with Islam is a daring rhetorical move, especially when that rhetorical move is made by a Jew, because Dorothy Rabinowitz must know, even if the dumb goyim who read her columns in the Wall Street Journal do not, that multiculturalism has been a completely Jewish creation from start to finish. For over 100 years now, Jews in America have been promoting multiculturalism as a strategy for weakening the dominant culture and thereby enhancing Jewish power.

In his essay, "Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review," University of California at Long Beach Professor Kevin MacDonald shows in exhaustive detail how Jewish organizations supported multiculturalism almost from the moment when eastern European Jews arrived in significant numbers on these shores.

According to MacDonald, the "historical record supports the proposition that making the US into a multicultural society has been a major goal of organized Jewry beginning in the 19th century."

The main way in which Jews promoted multiculturalism is by changing this nation's immigration laws.

"Jews," according to MacDonald, "have been 'the single most persistent pressure group favoring a liberal immigration policy' in the US in the entire immigration debate beginning in 1881."

MacDonald goes on to cite one Jewish authority after another to back up his case. According to [Sheldon M] Neuringer: "Immigration had constituted a prime object of concern for practically every major Jewish defense and community relations organization. Over the years their spokesmen had assiduously attended congressional hearings and the Jewish effort was of the utmost importance in establishing and financing such nonsectarian groups as the National Liberal Immigration League and the Citizens Committee for Displaced Persons."

According to Nathan C. Belth: "In Congress, through all the years when the immigration battles were being fought, the names of Jewish legislators were in the forefront of the liberal forces: from Adolph Sabath to Samuel Dickstein and Emanuel Celler in the House and from Herbert H. Lehman to Jacob Javits in the Senate. Each in this time was leader of the ADL and of major organizations concerned with democratic development."

The Jewish promotion of multiculturalism in America had two main goals:

1) "maximizing the number of Jewish immigrants" and

2) "opening up the US to immigration from all of the peoples of the world." Both goals paradoxically used "diversity" as a stalking horse to advance Jewish ethnocentrism. The whole point of multiculturalism is not so much the promotion of diversity as it is the demographic dilution of homogeneity.

Representative Leavitt saw through the diversity ploy when he complained that the Jews were "the one great historic people who have maintained the identity of their race throughout centuries because they believe sincerely that they are a chosen people, with certain ideals to maintain, and knowing that the loss of racial identity means a change of ideals."

The purpose of multiculturalism has always been to subvert coherent cultures, weaken the majority, and thereby enhance the Jews' power.

Or, as MacDonald puts it,

"Ethnic and religious pluralism serves external Jewish interest because Jews become just one of many ethnic groups. This results in the diffusion of political and cultural influence among the various ethnic and religious groups, and it becomes difficult or impossible to develop unified, cohesive groups of gentiles united in their opposition to Judaism. Historically, major anti-Semitic movements have tended to erupt in societies that have been, apart from the Jews, religiously and/or ethnically homogeneous."

The early opponents of multiculturalism also feared Jews as agents of cultural subversion: "Our whole system of amusements has been taken over by men who came here on the crest of the south and east European immigration. They produce our horrible film stories; they compose and dish out to us our jazz music, they write many of the books we read, and edit our magazines and newspapers."

Jewish immigrants were also "widely perceived to be ... disproportionately involved in radical political movements," a fact often acknowledged by the Jewish press. In one of its editorials, The American Hebrew pointed out that "we must not forget the immigrants form Russia and Austria will becoming from countries infested with Bolshevism, and it will require more than a superficial effort to make good citizens out of them."

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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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The fact that Jewish immigrants form Eastern Europe were viewed as "infected with Bolshevism. . . unpatriotic, alien, unassimilable" resulted in a wave of anti-Semitism in the 1920s and contributed to the restrictive immigration legislation of the period. Almost a decade after the immigration debate ended with the triumph of the restrictionists in 1924, Jewish immigration was still having consequences for American identity. As MacDonald points out, "In Philadelphia in the 1930s, fully 72.2 percent of the Communist Party members were the children of Jewish immigrants who came to the US in the late 19th and early 20th century."

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I don't really need an outsiders opinion.. Im not racist as this is whats been happening in my family as I've stated before, Im not a fan of deceit and my life has been tarnished by it.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Jews play a "leading role" in promoting multiculturalism in Europe

In this You Tube video, Barbara Lerner Spectre, who runs a government-funded Jewish study group in Sweden, makes the following remarkable statement—remarkable because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to irrational prejudices or even Muslims who hate Israel. Instead she says that it’s because of the “leading role” played by Jews in the movement toward multiculturalism:

I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

Her comment is an example of the age-old Jewish self-concept of a “Light Unto the Nations”: Jews saving Europe by leading it to multiculturalism. One wonders why she thinks Europe could not survive as a set of monocultural societies. Israel and many other societies function quite well with a recognized dominant culture and people and, as repeatedly emphasized here, multicultural societies have a hosts of costs and no visible benefits. The better question, of course, is how Europe can survive multiculturalism. By definition, it can’t.

The interview is part of a longer set of interviews available here.

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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Being a child of a jewish mother and an aryan dad (whos genes are still dominant in me) If I had to choose a side.. I think we know an answer to that.. not because I hate jews but because their whole life consists of schemes where they dont know the difference between reality and delusion they consistently promote without hesitation. I DONT KNOW MY MOTHER, and she definitely doesnt know me.. although she pretends and lies to my face every day. I have reasons to believe she hated me from the start, not because I was a bad person even though she fooled me and others to think that Im one, but because that was her predetermined opinion of me and it didnt stop there and still goes on to this day. She wanted to manipulate me to marry a jew, made me insecure and manipulate my relationships.. but it didnt succeed although my siblings weren't so lucky.. now they live with same type manipulating confused assholes who pretend to be angels. Chosen people my ass.. and no the "end does not justify the means" You do not become a justified warrior, a "good person" a savior by spreading lies and manipulating people by centuries of deceit not to mention the rest of the unbelievable s*it thats in the Protocols, especially in the name of almighty god. You have no Idea what living god is.. just because some guy had enough brain/heart and spirit to reach an understanding with god... doesnt by default make you a chosen people as I believe we should all have an understanding with god here and now, not riding piggyback on events in history, Im sure god wouldnt approve of your methods of proving your innocence and goodness, and you're surprised by Nazism, all they can do is stoop down to your level, you leave very little choice.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Okay, you've officially lost me now.


You said you didn't need an outsider's opinion, and that's fair enough. But then you started the bull with multiculturalism in Europe, so you've made it my business now. I could literally smell your "problem with the Jews" from the outset of this thread but tried to be diplomatic about it and shut up. But it had to come back to them... it always does.

Look, it's cool. Zionism is one of the many "agendas" at play with the elites, but it's not the only one. Second of all, not all Jews are Zionists (not many at all, in fact), and most of the Jewish diaspora don't even benefit from it, so please, leave them out of it.

The way you're talking about your heritage as if you might need to "pick a side" just tells volumes about your deep-seated issues with race relations. Multiculturalism has positive and negative outcomes, but multiculturalism and multiracialism aren't the same thing.

I'm black and British. There's no conflict there. I choose British culture as my own culture, because it's what my parents and I grew up with. When I visit my grandparents and distant family in the Caribbean, the locals don't treat me like one of them. As far as they are concerned, I'm an Englishman.

But that's off the point. If you don't want an outsider's opinion on US issues, then could you kindly take your nose out of our issues? Thank you much.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Iam begining to worry about the guys mental state he is all over the place and doesn't make much sense.
I still think it is Iason.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by ihavenoaccount
Okay, you've officially lost me now.


You said you didn't need an outsider's opinion, and that's fair enough. But then you started the bull with multiculturalism in Europe, so you've made it my business now. I could literally smell your "problem with the Jews" from the outset of this thread but tried to be diplomatic about it and shut up. But it had to come back to them... it always does.

Look, it's cool. Zionism is one of the many "agendas" at play with the elites, but it's not the only one. Second of all, not all Jews are Zionists (not many at all, in fact), and most of the Jewish diaspora don't even benefit from it, so please, leave them out of it.

The way you're talking about your heritage as if you might need to "pick a side" just tells volumes about your deep-seated issues with race relations. Multiculturalism has positive and negative outcomes, but multiculturalism and multiracialism aren't the same thing.

I'm black and British. There's no conflict there. I choose British culture as my own culture, because it's what my parents and I grew up with. When I visit my grandparents and distant family in the Caribbean, the locals don't treat me like one of them. As far as they are concerned, I'm an Englishman.

But that's off the point. If you don't want an outsider's opinion on US issues, then could you kindly take your nose out of our issues? Thank you much.


It always comes back to them for a reason dont you think?

Look its not cool.. I know not all Jews are Zionists but Im sure that if they were to sway to an agenda that benefits them or would be easier for them to be inclined to and if they could play a role no matter how distant and contribute to the "movement" Im sure they do have a stance on the matter and if so their values arent too far apart.

The way I talk about me picking a side is who am I a jew or an Aryan.. and while considering both carefully I see nothing good that my mothers side of the family has compared to my dads. There is no way I can prove they are Zionists but evidence of deceit is all over and they are not good hearted people yet my dads family is slowly being taken out of the picture... thats my personal experience and there is little I can do to prove it but looking at the evidence of jew control agenda which yes stems from the elite, the jew controlled media, entertainment etc.. wouldnt surprise me that same agenda is playing out in the relationships of the masses. I have to pick a side.. because either I accept the values of a jew or an aryan.. its like up or down.. so ya up. I guess you're right Im talking about multiracialism but it doesnt mean that multiculturalism couldnt be used to support a multiracialism ideals. As I've said before if it happens naturally Im all for it but when.. a "jew" or be it a non-jew seeks to dilute genes of a race or to brake the heritage line for bias interests or reasons.. and at the same call it love, f*ck that. I guess Ill say it now.. Im not talking about Blacks and Brits.

What I meant by outsiders opinion is that I dont need to read these articles on jewery and multiracialism/multiculturalism because I see it well enough in 3 generations within my family.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
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Iam begining to worry about the guys mental state he is all over the place and doesn't make much sense.
I still think it is Iason.


Oh look.. he's concerned, how convenient, dont you worry Im well, but ofcourse you think you know better, are you a zionist by any chance, oh ya I expect honesty haha. Issues arent bound by 1 topic monkey boy.



posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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Well you are a product of mixing between different cultures. I think you have some issues with yourself that you need to deal with. You are picking a side when thats not how it works. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it you are a Jew and half of your genes come from your Jewish family. You cannot just pick your 'aryan' side and say yup thats all I am. Go ahead and try to join a white supremicist and disclose that your mother is a Jew, see how well that works for you.


 
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posted on Jun, 29 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by acmpnsfal
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Well you are a product of mixing between different cultures. I think you have some issues with yourself that you need to deal with. You are picking a side when thats not how it works. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it you are a Jew and half of your genes come from your Jewish family. You cannot just pick your 'aryan' side and say yup thats all I am. Go ahead and try to join a white supremicist and disclose that your mother is a Jew, see how well that works for you.


 
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My mother is partly Jewish but none the less a jew.. her father was an aryan and mother a jew as well. I have no resemblance of a jew.. dominant genes of an Aryan for sure. Who the hell said I would join white supremacists or zionists for that matter.. but If i had to choose the lesser of 2 evils it would be white. You're saying I have no racial Identity.. and thats my problem with multiculturalism/racialism.. i cant do anything about who I am now... so if if im neither a jew or an aryan or both as you say.. i realized that its the jew that has terrible intentions not the aryan.. so I will pick the lesser evil and will support the lesser evil, as I also believe cultures are a beautiful thing, and think they should be preserved.



posted on Jun, 30 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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So cultures are great but you diss the Jewish one.

Wow thats it on the life of my kid Iam out of this thread.



posted on Jun, 30 2012 @ 01:55 AM
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Uhhh, mixing races does not lead to health defects. Incest does though... You are spewing disinfo. Deny ignorance


Broken genes are usually rare, so to inherit two broken copies of the same gene is unlucky and can result in serious health problems. However, the chances increase considerably if your parents are related. With more genes that are identical by descent, a child will have more genes where both copies are broken.

If inbreeding is bad, outbreeding, marrying an extremely unrelated partner (different race), should be good for the same reason. With a less related partner, the number of genes in your children that are identical by descent is reduced, and with it the chance that a gene has two broken copies. It is not that your children will inherit fewer broken copies in total, just that every broken copy has a much better chance of finding itself partnered with a good copy.



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posted on Jun, 30 2012 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by froglette
The 2010 Census came. I filled it out as I saw fit. When it came to the races of the people in my home. I checked other and put Human as our race. I mailed it in.

I was so hounded by the census takers that I had to put a note on my door, I'm paraphrasing. Dear Census taker(s), do not knock on my door again. This will be taken as a form of continued harassment. I filled out the census form and mailed it in.

It got to the point that I didn't say a word to the takers, just pointed to the sign and closed the door. Sometimes I did smile and wave while I closed the door. I did call the police on one gentleman who had no ID.


I'm sorry to have to inform you that was entirely for the purposes of redistricting to benefit the Democrat Party. But it's funny what you did...



posted on Jun, 30 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
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So cultures are great but you diss the Jewish one.

Wow thats it on the life of my kid Iam out of this thread.


Ya.. because other cultures dont try to manipulate and dismantle every other culture who they deem as a threat or they dont understand, atleast not for unreasonable reasons..there are exceptions, yet hypocritically adapt the genes of the more advanced offspring of other cultures and pass them off as their own to fight for their sham of a "just" cause which has lost its true purpose.

Victims, Heroes, when convenient. To the jew nothing is sacred except their own and even then they will burn their kind to get what they call "ahead", they dont adapt to the world and god but adapt the world and god to themselves. You know a jew cant win an argument because his existence is based on coverups of lies and shame.. so he comes up with decades of deceit and labels himself as chosen, and makes everyone else feel inadequate, racist and so on.. so while everyone is in his web, he can suck the life out of them by taking whatever stance convenient to manipulate, and take advantage of peoples good nature. Jews values depend on whatever benefits their survival at any given time. There are honest jewish people of course like true Orthodox Jewish.. who know or have a possibility of knowing true god atleast have intentions of doing so..and believe in the true word of the torah.. but there are other jews like the zionists who use that as an umbrella for their evil motives.

I find nothing honorable in destruction of a ways and quality of life of others.. look where its gotten us. Im a caring person, but watching what they do every day makes me furious, and I wont sit back and let this world be something it isnt. This world has gotten absurd, this is not how our lives were meant to be, wasting our energy on running in endless circles trying to solve superficial problems...instead of solving and eliminating real problems.. yet no one understands why. The world and life is not that hard to understand but a jew makes it difficult by making it his damned playground of deceit. And even now if a jew is reading this he's already plotting how to use this information against the rest.. life of a jew. Its a person who wants something for nothing.. who hasnt worked to get ahead but looking at others that he sees are "better" succumbing to disgraceful ways of suppressing the "better" instead of bettering himself but pretending he is just. So.. No, we will not stoop down to your hell... you go to heaven. Who am i to say all this.. you might ask. Ill tell you who else will.. you depend exactly on that, for no one to be able to stand up to your broad illusion, but people arent as stupid as you expect them to be.

An apple is not a peach for a damn reason... if all fruit were the same fruit (not that that would even be possible) what kind of life would that be? Everyone has a reason for existence as what they are when they are according to nature in the time allotted.. do not disrupt or meddle in the balance.. do not play god. Diversity will always exist and oneness is possible.. but not like this. Jewish you wish, for now its jew remember that.

On the life of your kid you are out of this thread? Are you out of your mind.. you dont make any sense monkeyboy. Make sure you dont reply.. or itll cost ya a life of your child.. what a price to pay and at what cost. Choose your words carefully.



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