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Five Good Reasons To Believe in UFOs:(or what is going on @ National Geo?)

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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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Okay, before I start... I assume many of you have been seeing the TV's ads for the upcoming show on National Geographic call "Chasing UFO's" (I think it starts this Friday). So, I have seen them for weeks now. So... I think okay, a little series making fun of ATS types or the whole concept of UFO/Alines etc.

Then I stop by their webpage a few minutes ago and what do I see, to my total disbelief? The thread title and at the bottom of the story and side page info... all kinds of stories and info related to UFO/Aliens.... Hmmmm. Over hyping an upcoming show or do they actually support the ATSers and the alike? Well, you'll see.
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As most credible UFOlogists readily admit, proving that extraterrestrial spacecraft have visited our planet is a maddeningly difficult chore. “The hassle over the word "proof" boils down to one question: What constitutes proof?




Edward J. Ruppelt, who headed the U.S Air Force’s secret investigation of UFOs in the early 1950s, once wrote. “Does a UFO have to land at the River Entrance to the Pentagon, near the Joint Chiefs of Staff offices? Or is it proof when a ground radar station detects a UFO, sends a jet to intercept it, the jet pilot sees it, and locks on with his radar, only to have the UFO streak away at a phenomenal speed? Is it proof when a jet pilot fires at a UFO and sticks to his story even under the threat of court-martial? Does this constitute proof?”



Leslie Keen, author of the 2011 book “UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record,” has noted that in roughly 90 to 95 percent of UFO sightings, observers turn out actually to have seen weather balloons, ball lightning, flares, aircraft, and other mundane phenomena. But another five to 10 percent of sightings are not so easily explainable, but that’s not the same as demonstrating that they are extraterrestrial in origin. Nevertheless, she argues, the hypothesis that UFOs are visitors from other worlds “is a rational one, and must be taken into account, given the data that we have.”



Here is some of the most compelling evidence for that hypothesis:


1: The long, documented history of sightings.
2: Numerous modern sightings by credible, well-trained professional observers.
3: Consistencies in the descriptions of purported alien ships
4: Possible physical evidence of encounters with alien spacecraft.
5: Documented physiological effects on UFO witnesses

Source: channel.nationalgeographic.com...

Okay.... there is the "arguments" (PLEASE be sure to go to the link and read the info on the top 5 for the "supporting" of the particular argument). But, then when you start looking around the pages borders you'll see.. (this is where the What is going on at National Geo comes into play).


1: Big City UFO Sightings
2: UFOs Over DC- Two Air Force Personnel Spot Something Strange Over the Nation’s Capitol in 1952.
3: The Message- "WOW" What was the strange 72-second signal from outer space?
4: Talking to Aliens- If aliens were to contact us, how would we respond in a manner that they would understand?
5: UFOs: What Are They?
6: Alien Cowboys- Investigating claims of animal mutilations and reports of abductions in the Colorado Rockies.

When you read the stories/articles etc... you realize they are serious. GREAT. Matter of fact, them and the History channel are about the only two entities out there that talk about UFO/Aliens with seriousness. Now, why am I posting this stuff.

Because when I went to the UFO/Alien forum on ATS to see whats new etc I was surprised to see so many interesting threads but hardly any of them had flags/stars or even participation. I find that disheartening as I believe that ATS is THE most credible website in the world for the seeking of knowledge of truth and beyond.

As more and more people of the mainstream are exposed to the UFO/Alien aspects, some will seek answers/guidance/info and they will most likely end up coming to ATS for that info etc. But lately, it seems to me that most of the ATS crowd are tired or bored or just aren't interested in the UFO/Alien topic anymore.

It seems when folks post things or questions etc they get ripped to shreds by the self proclaimed Know-it-alls. When in fact we should be there with open arms. Not that we are all the know it alls but we are the ones who have been down the UFO/Alien path-numerous times. So, maybe it gets easy to write a chaffing response or to belittle someone who isn't as informed etc.

I admit, I have gone down the UFO/Alien road and I have come to some conclusions but they are challenged repeatedly here on ATS as I read peoples thoughts/ideas/beliefs. And I find myself questions those conclusions I thought I had finally resolved. Case in point.. all this National Geo stuff.

All begging the question.. Are We Alone in this Universe? I look forward to all of your responses and to the new people coming here seeking info/help/clarifications....

WELCOME- and I can assure you no matter what you get out of your ATS experiences... you will NEVER think the same way as you did before coming here.




posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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I agree


Also i saw this show advertised and can't wait to watch it, although i will need to download each episode as i don't have that channel in my home



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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I wouldn't trust the MSM to give you any definitive answers.

Two of my favorite reasons to believe in UFO's among hundreds are MAJIC and crop circle.

www.majesticdocuments.com...

www.temporarytemples.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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I'm intrigued by your question "What is going on @ Nat Geo", as I asked myself this question yesterday as well.

Now, I live in Europe, so I think our programming is a bit behind, but over here they've started to touch on strange subjects as well, things I'd never expect from NG. In the list of things to come are among others;

Evidence that stories from the bible actually took place, with the locations as described etc...
Who built the Malta temples? Giants! With evidence that they provide in the episode! (this was really weird to me, knowing what NG normally broadcasts (at least over here))


Anyway, sorry for not being totally on topic, but I thought this was interesting, seeing how there is an obvious shift occurring in what is accepted/allowed and what is not, I can't imagine things like this being broadcasted, say, 5 years ago, but now it seems like the most normal thing...


Also, speaking of UFO's, I think NG is being directed to show this kind of stuff to desensitize people, as with the trend in movies etc, I don't think it's a coincidence that we're seemingly being prepared for disclosure, it's like they want us to accept new facts before they come true on a global scale or something.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:12 AM
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They are hyping a new series. National Geographic used to be a fine institution dedicated to exploring little known regions of the world. Now it's just another mass media conglomerate looking to push advertising time. They've gone down market. Sad.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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And lets keep in mind that you shouldn't auto-default link UFOs to aliens-from-other-planets. Ufos are real, but what are they really, is the question. Unless natgeo is on a psyops mission, and why shouldn't the PTB use the msm for that? It's easy to.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. However it would be more fair if you pointed out that some believers are very harsh with their responses to explanations offered by so called skeptics. The interaction overall is wrong in my opinion, of course not everyone as some people have very good manners and sense of shame.

Just wanted to add to your thoughts.

StringTh



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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Nice thread, although there has been plenty of UFO/Alien related stuff before Nat Geo/History channels were even thought of.

On the point of coming to ATS and never thinking the same way as before, there are quite a few subjects to which that applies, the UFO/Alien forum being one.

Yeah, there are definitely threads which I think should be given more attention, few below which are eye openers, if you analyze the info there:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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Star and Flag for a good post on a very relevant subject. In my considered opinion, ET has been with humanity since the very beginning, and no, they are not "Fallen angels," nor are they "Demons," they are Extraterrestrial Beings from other planets who are millions of years ahead of human technology. I believe Earth will see a time when Aliens are a common sight. Cheers, Auto



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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I have to say that the argument, for me, comes down to a question I ask a good bit..

What makes more sense.

Humans crawling as some fish from the sea and the growing to become a human?
or

Humans being created by God (Adam and Eve)-being guided by messages to one person, via a burning bush....?

Or

Humans being placed on earth or created on earth by intelligent beings from another world?

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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Just my opinion.
NatGeo is in the entertainment business to make money. Executives try to supply this entertainment based on what they believe the public wants. Paranormal has been a hot item in the last several years. I think a lot of it comes from the 2012 theories. I remember when all the Ghost Hunter programs started coming out. I couldn't believe that people were being drawn into these programs. One of them was a paranormal show, and in almost every episode the spirits threw a pebble at the hosts. It was so ridiculous, but people were drawn in. Why? In my opinion people are looking for proof that there is life after death. No one wants to believe that a box in the ground is the final chapter. I believe that the ones most likely drawn in are those that have no particular religious belief. Most Christians do not need proof of life after death.
As for the UFOs. A lot of people have seen and experienced things that they can't explain. UFO shows and books (and sites like ATS) offer them an answer to their mystery. Even the non believers are drawn into these shows even if it is just to reinforce their non belief.
Paranormal is big business for the entertainment industry, and big business means big money.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Hey, great job bringing this to our attention. The NatGeo Channel website certainly is taking the topic seriously and presenting some of the more compelling arguments for the reality of the phenomenon. I'm impressed. I'd be even more impressed if National Geographic magazine did a cover story on the subject treating it in the same manner as they have done here. Thanks!



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Just my impression but thi show looks like it panders to the lowest common denominator and was made for kindergartners who have never heard of ET before.

I'll give it a try for an episode or two but how much are they really going to cover/un-cover that hasn't already been discussed a thousand times already?

I am ready to see and hear # I have never heard or seen before.
I am ready to have my mind completely BLOWN AWAY!!!
I want to be so shocked that I piss my pants!!!

I do NOT want to hear another account of a fighter pilot chasing a ufo or some douchebag go on about the wow signal. I'm done with this #!!!! I want MORE! I demand MORE! I am tired of being drip fed this BS.

I'll be happy the day these bastards land their bucket of bolts in the rose garden and start cleaning up shop.
My aliens are like Clint Eastwood and Chuck Norris rolled into one.


Till then, you can make as many prime time shows as you want but, I still have to go to work tomorrow and I still have bills to pay so, what difference does it really make???

Until these filthy bankers are ALL dealt with, this rock will always be miserable and completely in the dark.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
They are hyping a new series. National Geographic used to be a fine institution dedicated to exploring little known regions of the world. Now it's just another mass media conglomerate looking to push advertising time. They've gone down market. Sad.


Well DJ, the public interest in bare Ethiopian boobies has declined in recent years. The average watcher requires more food for thought and that sometimes includes "fringe" subject matter that requires people to think, speculate and apply common sense, in other words, use there brain.

Nat Geo is only doing what every other channel does, build upon the themes that draw viewers to entertain people and increase there revenue streams through advertisements. Programming choices are really decided by viewers, or lack there of as it pertains to the long term.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Well, for the first time.... I agree with you. You are spot on, IMO.

STAR!!!! (not that you care but...)



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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I hope this show gets posted on the net



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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I agree with you here. I have done so much research, and seen so many things that I am just ready for something new. While I am glad that NG is putting this information out there for the public, I will probably only get one or two episodes out of it.

And also, as previously mentioned by someone else ^, this is desensitization. They are going to beat it into society's head that... well, I'm not really sure what the agenda is at this point, but I am almost POSITIVE that the disclosure statement is coming soon. Until then, TPTB are just going to pour this "fiction" or "mystery" down our throats to get us used to the taste.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by VeniVidi
Just my opinion.
NatGeo is in the entertainment business to make money. Executives try to supply this entertainment based on what they believe the public wants. Paranormal has been a hot item in the last several years. I think a lot of it comes from the 2012 theories. I remember when all the Ghost Hunter programs started coming out. I couldn't believe that people were being drawn into these programs. One of them was a paranormal show, and in almost every episode the spirits threw a pebble at the hosts. It was so ridiculous, but people were drawn in. Why? In my opinion people are looking for proof that there is life after death. No one wants to believe that a box in the ground is the final chapter. I believe that the ones most likely drawn in are those that have no particular religious belief. Most Christians do not need proof of life after death.
As for the UFOs. A lot of people have seen and experienced things that they can't explain. UFO shows and books (and sites like ATS) offer them an answer to their mystery. Even the non believers are drawn into these shows even if it is just to reinforce their non belief.
Paranormal is big business for the entertainment industry, and big business means big money.


How can you say they supply what the public wants? The public wants what society deems as interesting or important at the moment. And society, imo, is guided by the ones on top. You want people to accept war as a daily reality? Show war-themed stuff all the time, pretty simple.

I think there's an agenda behind the whole alien-theme that has been dominating entertainment lately, perhaps it's just what people like atm, but I don't think people have much say in what they get, it's indeed big business, and it's not the customers that decide imo.

I do think it's quite possibly a mix of both yours and mine, things like ghost shows etc are probably just being exploited without a clear agenda, but in the light of disclosure etc., I think this is predictive programming or propaganda or whatever you want to call it.

Have there been any movies where the aliens are the good guys lately? Where they're not intent on destroying the planet? Why not? Why is it always an invasion of epic proportions by baddies who want nothing but to destroy our planet? It would be refreshing to see a movie where aliens come to rid us of widespread corruption and tyranny, but those movies don't seem to exist, I wonder why
I don't think they want us to welcome anything, they want us to fear and (if disclosure would occur) (prejudiced) hate.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by anon72
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I have to say that the argument, for me, comes down to a question I ask a good bit..

What makes more sense.

Humans crawling as some fish from the sea and the growing to become a human?


Umm, this one. Archaeological evidence and DNA evidence both point to an earthly origin of the species. Homo sapiens evolved from previous more primitive forms. There is simply no need to invoke aliens into the picture. Oh, we may have been "tweaked" ala 2001, but there is no evidence at all that we came from elsewhere. Our Homo erectus and Homo aferensis relatives would be quite miffed if they thought they had been circumvented by some mythical aliens. Observe here for a summary of the fossil evidence.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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You are so right about the TPTB. Fear and Hate. But you left out one thing, they want us to be ignorant.



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