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American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI

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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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WOW! That really pisses me off. Now I know that you are going to find this hard to believe, but MSM failed to cover this story. I live in the Detroit metro area, and surprise! We never heard about this.

I watched 75% of the video, and I have some really good Muslim friends. I just sent this to them all, and all I received back from two of them were: 1) I am sorry buddy. And the second wrote: 2) that's not what I believe in and it is things like this that make me embarrassed of my own.

Obviously, my friends are well educated, and don't condone that type of behavior......But the next time we all get together I am sure that it will be. Topic of conversation for an hour or two!


Thanks for your time and allowing me to steal three minutes of your time to read this.

God Bless




posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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I don't like Christians or any other religious group.

BUT, I find it extremely distressing that most of you hate Christianity so much, and despise Christians so vehemently, that you are willing to give up your Constitutional Liberties just to "get back at them and teach those dirty Christians a lesson".

It's immature, it's childish, it's illogical, it's irrational, it's stupid.

Please stop acting like little school yard children and willing to give up EVERYTHING just to punish someone you don't like.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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The constitution and supporting law is clear.

Source

Brandenburg v. Ohio


Whitney has been thoroughly discredited by later decisions. See Dennis v. United States, 341 U.S. 494, at 507 (1951). These later decisions have fashioned the principle that the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
the government is also not tasked with providing protection for morons either.


Actually it is.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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...Nothing to see here folks...move along....only Muslims and Christians hating on each other

....though it is a fine example of how organized religion has adversely affected this species

....and a little further down, as you can see, we have the monkey exhibit

....be careful, they tend to throw poop at each other for no apparent reason, and without warning

....from what we can tell, it has nothing to do with superstition, but rather seems to be an instinctual
....urge found in all of this particular planet's primates
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by neformore
If you go into a bear pit with the intention of provoking a bear, chances are you'll provoke a bear.

Stupid is as stupid does.

All this crap about constitutional rights doesn't cover up deliberate provocative stupidity does it?



Yeah it does.

Unless of course you think the Constitution doesn't apply anymore? But that would make you wrong.

Very sad to see you would rather give up the Constitution just to put a couple of violent thugs on a pedestal and proclaim they are not criminals.

You need to reevaluate your opinions please.



The constitution does not give you the right to untruthfully shout 'fire' in a packed theater because it is provocative, dangerous and can cause injury.

Similarly, you don't go to a community event and antagonise the people there because it would be disturbing the peace.

You don't picket and demonstrate against private citizens going about their lawful activities. This is not a constitutionally protected right. You can of course picket the festival but not the people.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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the lack of faith on this message bored rears its ugly head in cynical jabs at a belief system older than the posters themselves.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by SuperFrog

Originally posted by muzzleflash
That's pretty sick.

All of those kids should have been charged with assault and battery.


How about those provoking them on their holiday?

IMHO all extremism should be charged and under control, including those that are thanking God for dead soldiers.


Your viewpoint that all extremism should be "controlled" is extremist.
I think we should Control you.

Push comes to shove.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River
the lack of faith on this message bored rears its ugly head in cynical jabs at a belief system older than the posters themselves.


This has nothing to do with 'faith' actually.

It has to do with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

And people don't know the Constitution at all, and most of them despise it.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by rival
...Nothing to see here folks...move along....only Muslims and Christians hating on each other

....though it is a fine example of how organized religion has adversely affected this species

....and a little further down, as you can see, we have the monkey exhibit

....be careful, they tend to throw poop at each other for no apparent reason, and without warning

....from what we can tell, it has nothing to do with superstition, but rather seems to be an instinctual
....urge found in all primates

edit on 27-6-2012 by rival because: (no reason given)



Actually if you look hard, you will see zionists putting poop in the hands of Muslims and Christians then sitting back to watch the fun and games.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
3) What about the fact that those Christians provoked the Muslims?

That doesn't really mean violence is ok. Personally, I'd call it even because I hate bigots like those Christians...but from a legal standpoint a provokation will only lead to a (maybe significantly) reduced sentence. So instead of a prison sentence for violence they might look at a couple of hours of community service and/or a fine.


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Good to see a little bit of common sense.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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freedom of speech



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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well, a couple of things, for Starters, as a once upon a time Leftist [radical], I want to respond to this:

""GRA a Leftist? LOL
It's interesting that anyone who doesn't cry for the Christian antagonists presented in the OP are automatically Leftists or apologists or extremist Islamic sympathizers.

I'm a Leftist, so I'll answer. Leftists don't necessarily find kinship with Islam, we just don't have a problem with Islam, I guess we find kinship with humans and that somehow always makes us wrong/deluded/anti-christian in the eyes of some Righties.""

I am not a Rightie, either, So, as a once upon a time Member high up in a Socialist Party, let me just tell you,

Leftists, particularly the far left kind, would bend their own infant-toddler daughter over and let Muslim men rape her IF it got them further into the door in crashing the so called Imperialist West. FACT. They use and abuse and LIE to their own duped female supporters, they BETRAY numerous other Leftists [true leftists, not this Filth in America that has bastardized the term Leftism] that are rotting in Muslim prisons, such as in Iran, Yemen, Oman, Syria, etc.,

and any Female [who Still has a working brain and hasn't completely internalized Self Misogynist Hatred via centuries of aka patriarchal brainwashing] that works in Solidarity for labor, anti-being nothing more than some dicks' sex slave/prostitute, sweatshop slave, domestic slave, KNOWS the betrayals of the Left parties, especially when it comes to so called Leftist/numerous progressives/liberals. This is WHY leftist parties have such a hard time keeping women, other than those who 'think it's chic and hip to be a slut but who turn right around and demand abortion rights, let me tell you HOW STUPID THESE TYPES ARE, these same types, who will demand GLBT rights, will march with the VERY ONES who will have NO ISSUE, in hanging them on cranes,

I used to tell them, "Have you picked out your crane color yet, Pink is it, it looks nice with blood you know", Seriously, you're dealing with a lot of STUPIDITY in the WEST when it comes to Islam,

I know what I speak of, I was engaged long time ago, to a Muslim, and I have seen FIRST HAND the horrors, they unleash to women and children on a Daily basis....I have also grown up and lived/been exposed to Christian Fundamentalism, there are numerous similarities but it's NOTHING, IN COMPARISON, TO THE BARBARISM that you will find in Islam. All there is too it, there is a Reason why Secular law came OUT of Christian-Judaism, even if it was mixed with Paganism,

because those beliefs Allowed for progress, change, even with the clamp downs of the church. Because it's not Absolute MIND CONTROL, where as, Islam, Is nothing more than absolute MIND CONTROL and why

TOTALITARIANS love it so much.

And I include capitalist far right totalitarians in this, because it's not just left fascists who love/empathize and Utilize the TERROR of Islam, there are plenty of right wing nutjobs who utilize it too, Hitler was one of them. [he was fascinated with Islam, Egyptian Brotherhood, etc]

and they ALL HATE WOMEN, WOMBS, LIFE, GREEN, ANYTHING THAT ISN'T ABOUT

RAPE, PILLAGE, LOOTING, TERROR, BLOOD, BLOOD, AND MORE BLOOD

and Yes, there ARE peaceful Muslim people, who are VICTIMS of this Ancient Cult of Violence and Piratism who bless their hearts, whose ancestors were forced via RAPE, PILLAGE, AND SWORD to SUBMIT to Islam...or else, die as a species.

Proof of how blood thirsty this religion is and ALL IT IS, is evident in how they murder and slaughter their OWN, and not only murder, they do so WITH THE BELIEF THAT THIS IS WHAT THEIR 'god' DEMANDS. Now yes, Christians are guilty of this, but the difference is,

and there is one huge difference...between Islam and ALL OTHER RELIGIONS,

it is ONLY ISLAM, THAT IS THE FOUNDATION--TO SUBMIT--TO KILL, STEAL, DESTROY, LIE AND MASS RAPE, to spread the POLITICS AND CONTROL, to form a Caliph.

Christianity, history included, while through time there has been Periods of the same, the basic tenants of the faith--is NOT based, on Kill, Rape, etc., to spread one world Christianity...even With the few stories in Old Testament. [which btw, are directly related to the tensions/wars of that entire region, which anti-Christian types, love to exclude]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that religions are not expansive, or have elements of Supremacy Disease [and I assert that majority of that has to do with Patriarchal masculine supremacy thinking--my dick bigger than your dick syndrome] but regardless, as A POLITICAL SYSTEM,

there are HUGE differences. And the leftists in the West, what really just is Hilarious, they spew anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism but they are VERY ignorant of the basis of Islam and economics, it IS a SYSTEM OF 'SLAVERY', there Is no communalism in Islam, there cannot be, because it is a System that is based on a rigid pyramid system of Elites over slaves--and Arab elites at that, con't



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Than what sense is there is police officers being present if they don't enforce the law??? If they crossed the line, which you claim they did, why didn't the police arrest the protestors?

I'm really not debating the issue. If they were across the line, the police should have arrested the protestors. If they were behind the line, the Muslims should have ignored and allowed their legal - yet annoying - protestations.

The crazy thing is, in Muslim countries a Christian gathering would not only be protested, but violently interrupted, and, they would have the complete support of the authorities (simply look at Egypt and the cops, Iraq and it's christians, syria and its christians, as examples); but these Muslims are in a country with laws much different from their own: people can protest legitimate things like an innocent Muslim public get together. .



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by paratus

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by paratus
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There are more videos on the interwebs.
All of which could be used as evidence.
feel free to search

pics, and it DID happen


Provide one then...show me him actually getting hit by a rock....Until then I call BS.



Skip to nine minutes into the following video to see the “stoning” portion where large, grey projectiles that look very much like rocks are tossed into the air at the demonstrators as the crowd screams “Allahu Akbar” and closes in:
www.theblaze.com...


Watched it several times and paused it several times. "large grey projectiles"? Looks like water bottles as evidenced as landing on the ground. Don't see rocks...sorry. But it did occur to me...that bald guy with the mustache has his back to the crowd and is "retreating" in a tight knowt of protestors and doesn't have the bloody forehead when he turns his back tot he crowd and is walking away in the moving knot of protestors...to me this furthers the liklihood that he hit his head on one of the many unweildly and large signs the protestors had when he was making the retreat. He is unscathed at the time they claim rocks were thrown...as well as had his back tot he crowd and was moving in a disorganized retreat along with the fumbling sign carriers.
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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How many times are you going to talk about the constitution when everyone refuted the point? Free speech is limited according to the law.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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The constitution does not exist anymore at all. The fact is, is that corporation have minpulated laws, government have disregard the laws and have fact found ways to avoid these old-timer way of thinking.

Its 2012, the government is after everyone at some level. I honestly wouldn't be surprise if george soro was behind this christian hate dearborn rally. Honestly, dearborn is a great place to start a hostile take over through martial law due to a dearborn riot. sounds like a plan



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Hate to say it, but these folks went into this festival with the intention of inciting the crowds ire.Who are these folks, and what church do they belong to? It would appear they went in there westboro babtist church style, unanounced. While I myself am not a huge fan of those sword weilding sand people, aka the followers of muhammud, I can see why they would get enraged. I dont go to cinco de mayo celebrations with signs denegrating latinos. Why? Because there is a strong chance they will throw stuff at me. This was an event these folks were using for anti-muslim propaganda, and nothing more. I may not like islam, but I detest folks trying to incite violence for the sole purpose presenting a negative image of a religon. They do the job just fine by themselves, so it is stupid to stage fake events like this. If anyone can find out who these people are, we can then get a clear picture of thier agenda.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by neformore
If you go into a bear pit with the intention of provoking a bear, chances are you'll provoke a bear.

Stupid is as stupid does.

All this crap about constitutional rights doesn't cover up deliberate provocative stupidity does it?



Yeah it does.

Unless of course you think the Constitution doesn't apply anymore? But that would make you wrong.

Very sad to see you would rather give up the Constitution just to put a couple of violent thugs on a pedestal and proclaim they are not criminals.

You need to reevaluate your opinions please.


Free speech doesn't automatically mean demonstrations are suddenly not regulated in any way shape or form


This was clearly a demonstration, and depending on the exact location of their protest, they might have been required to file for permission.

An example of this is the RNC. You can demonstrate during the RNC, but you aren't allowed to do it everywhere you want because of security concerns.

The same applies here. If the outcome might result in violence, they would have ordered them to demonstrate somewhere else. Given their "in your face" attitude and provoking stance, I'm pretty sure the cops would have told them "fine, you have the right to demonstrate...go to that park 2 blocks away from that Muslim community, vent your bigotry there". Why? Because believe it or not, cops don't actually enjoy violence...it means MORE WORK.
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by muzzleflash
 


The constitution and supporting law is clear.

Source

Brandenburg v. Ohio


Whitney has been thoroughly discredited by later decisions. See Dennis v. United States, 341 U.S. 494, at 507 (1951). These later decisions have fashioned the principle that the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.


That case is about the "Advocacy of violence verbally".

This case we are talking about here, it's about actual real violence being used on the street and how religion is the main factor determining if it's ok to be violent or not.

Some religions cannot even get away with stating an opinion.
Others can get away with mob violence.

Apparently...



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