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reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:26 PM by sdcigarpig
reply to post by TrueAmerican


Having viewed the video tape, and watched it very carefully, the following can be stated:

It has been stated that Tolerance is a 2 way street, and neither of the groups involved were willing to show such. It was a disgusting example of what happens when 2 ideologies clash and people set so far in their belief that they do not stop to think that just cause they can do something, it should not be done.

This festival is a money maker for the city of Deerborn, it brings in funds to the city, thus they allow for it. Who is wrong, all sides are wrong, the Muslims for not showing tolerance and actually throwing the stuff at those who chose to demonstrate, the Christians for actually showing up with signs that the Muslims find offensive, and the Police for failing to stand up to both sides and not lifting a hand to try to stop violence on both sides. While the Christians showed restraint in not retaliating, they were ultimately causing a disturbance there in that festival. It shows both sides in a poor light. It set a dangerous precedence on both sides and will only escalate on both sides. The question is when will it cease to be rocks and trash and turn to be weapons? And what will happen if someone gets killed? The debate will rage for years with each side blaming the other for the tragedy that will occur.

When will it end and ultimately how will it affect the rest of the country?


reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:31 PM by DoctorMobius
reply to post by sdcigarpig



Thats not the ATS spirit! Burn the Christians kill the whites, anything to purge the guilt from our souls. It's funny to see how many of the "awakened" are programmed to self hate.


reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:31 PM by Honor93
reply to post by getreadyalready

{i cannot watch the video so i'm using my imagination minus any real description of the content}

you know i appreciate your opinion but how is this any different than the WBB (westboro) bunch at a funeral ??

if the funeral attendees began assaulting the WBB members, do you really think the PD would escort the "invaders" out ??
if you do, then why haven't they done such to date ??

ok, i'll give that a funeral isn't a festival, but how is it any less important or worthy of protection or prosecution as either may apply ??


reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:32 PM by The Sword
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Wow, I did not see that coming. /sarcasm

Like getreadyalready said, it's very possible that those Christians who crashed that festival were looking for trouble.


reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:34 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by ollncasino



You mean to tell you me actually believe those old books?

You know, i hear the church of Paul Bunyan is taking new members, too.

Spend more time studying what will make you better, not what makes Islam worse. You seem to already know enough about the latter topic.


reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:35 PM by The Sword
reply to post by TrueAmerican



So you believe a video over someone who was actually there?

How lame is that?


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reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:37 PM by DeadSeraph
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to
post by TrueAmerican



So you believe a video over someone who was actually there?

How lame is that?



Funny how ATS is so selective about that. What happened to "pics/video or it didn't happen"?
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reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:40 PM by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to
post by TrueAmerican



CHRISTIANS ?

Yeah right. More like fundamentalists carrying signs that were hostile to Arabs and then shooting it on video to say "Aww look at us. They attacked us because we're Christian"

NO ONE IS BUYING THAT STORY ! THIS AINT 1934

They attacked them because they were disrupting their festival with hate filled rhetoric and xenophobic material on the signs they were carrying.


Yes I agree with this. Those kids throwing the bottles and eggs, those hooligans, need a lesson in manners, but at the same time, I highly doubt the christian group is all innocent in this. If you're going to walk around with big christian signs in the middle of a muslim ceremony saying all sorts of things, you are looking for a response in my opinion. In anycase, they both have the right to say what they want, and likewise that guy says he has those attacks on video. I'd like to know the events leading up to that incident.


reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:42 PM by ollncasino
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

You mean to tell you me actually believe those old books?


Are you suggesting that Muslims don't believe their own religious books?

Bear in mind that Muslims, according to Islamic doctrine, must take the Koran literally. Christians don't have to do this. Muslims do.

Koran 9:29

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

Koran


If Muhammad instructed Muslims, according to the Koran, to fight those who refuse to submit to Islam until they pay jizyah tax, in what sense is Islam a religion of peace?


Koran 9:5
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists (worshipers of more than one god) wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Koran


If Muhammad told his followers to fight non-Muslims until they submit to Islam, in what sense are the aggressive crowd not following the teachings of Islam?

edit on 26-6-2012 by ollncasino because: clarify



reply posted on 26-6-2012 @ 10:44 PM by KeliOnyx
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to
post by getreadyalready

{i cannot watch the video so i'm using my imagination minus any real description of the content}

you know i appreciate your opinion but how is this any different than the WBB (westboro) bunch at a funeral ??

if the funeral attendees began assaulting the WBB members, do you really think the PD would escort the "invaders" out ??
if you do, then why haven't they done such to date ??

ok, i'll give that a funeral isn't a festival, but how is it any less important or worthy of protection or prosecution as either may apply ??


What kind of makes it different and when I say this it doesn't mean I like it or think it should be so; is that Westboro is a family of lawyers all too ready to sue the pants off the cops, city and those assaulting them and have a history of doing so. So generally when they show up in town law enforcement knows just exactly what to avoid.
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