reply to post by ollncasino
Perhaps a better question would be what do we do to integrate young British Muslim males to prevent 4,000 of them from wanting to join the Taliban?
Indeed that is something that should be looked into. And it certainly will not help if we ostracise and isolate.
Of course, the figures from the MI5 website are worrying (if to be believed)... but i guarantee you that you would find similar data from Northern
Ireland in the 70's and 80's.
Ask yourself this... before 911 how many stories were there in the media about Muslim terrorists?
Very few compared to today!
Why is it that for years Muslims lived in this country with very few incidents and then, suddenly, they’re all radicals??
I believe this is for three reasons.... One, the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as angered many young Muslims and, unfortunately, some feel the need
to take more drastic action than just protest.
Two, the media love these stories because it gives us all a new bogey man to shake our fists at so they report it more and exaggerate wherever they
can to keep our interest peaked.
Three, and this is where the conspiracy comes in, I believe that there are darker forces at work who want to keep us (the people) divided while the
carry out their plans... In fact I believe in some other conspiracy theories regarding this issues but for the sake of keeping this thread on track
and not derailing it I will save them for another time.
There also seems to be this twisting of logic that goes on. We seem to think that its ok to go around killing people as long as we have a flag and a
uniform. Somehow this is seen as just and something we are to be proud of. Damn it,we even have respect for our enemies when they wear a uniform and
come from similar cultures. Many British people have a respect for the German military during WW2. You here it all the time.... "They had great
weaponry, the Jerrys, and would probably have won if the hadn’t gone into Russia" That is typical of an English pub debate! Said with almost an air
But what do you do if you want to fight against something but have no uniform or military. What if what you want to fight for has no official backing
and what you are fighting against has a far more superior military strength?
During WW2 was the French resistance terrorists because they didn’t have a uniform? Now you may argue that they never carried out suicide missions
but then what about the Japanese Kamikaze and banzai?? I don’t think I’ve ever heard them referred to as terrorists!
What’s the difference between blowing up a city street, by dropping a bomb from 30,000ft, or detonating it by hand? Civilians still die... but we
see one as somehow chivalrous and the other as a crime?
I cant help but see it as hypocritical when I see people getting angry and upset about “our boys” getting hit with IED’s while celebrating when
they hear about a convey of “their boys” being hit by a guided missile. But maybe that because I don’t see a them and us! I just see people
dying for the greed of the few.
Don’t get me wrong... i am certainly not trying to offer any words of support or endorsement for Al Qaeda or their tactics. Quite the opposite. Al
Qaeda and other similar Muslim groups carry out some disgusting acts and are often backwards in their philosophies and ethics. But, I am against the
murder of civilians regardless of uniform, equipment or some perceived moral high ground that loosely covers a desire to steal someone’s resources
and land and/or spreading of ideology. I am against killing... And whether its Al Qaeda or the Army’s of the west, they are all guilty.
Just something to think about...
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