American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI

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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:13 AM
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reply to post by Meaningless
 


what I meant by few seconds ago was when I replied to another post
there was the same remark
and I apologize I singled you out for saying I just answered this a few seconds ago

ooops forgot

yes I do read .. hence I only have so many posts since I joined
instead of having 10k posts in 2 yrs or 1 yr running my mouth off ( no not you )
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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This is such rubbish... As a Christian, if i took my kids to a Christian fun day (or whatever) and a group from another religion turned up with signs telling me my kids are gonna burn in a lake of fire i'd get pretty pissed.

Sure people can think whatever they want and if they don’t agree with my religion fine... but don’t come and gate crash my day out with hatred.

Same applies here... these pathetic moronic extremists, who call themselves Christians, are blatantly there to stir up trouble, film it, and then make it look like they are the victims through selective editing. They got what they wanted!

These (so called) Christians were obviously shouting stuff at the Muslims because the officer asked them to stop using the megaphone! I notice how we don’t see the full recording of events, or what they were shouting, just their biased chopped down version.

It seems that some evangelical Christians have taken it one step further from ramming their beliefs down people’s throats to actually insulting other people’s lifestyles to provoke a reaction which they then use to back up their claims that these people are horrible.

Jesus must be just shaking his head in disbelief... because they are certainly not helping to swell the ranks of Christianity with this behaviour. Just making Christians look like backwards, intolerant, hate filled extremists... Funnily, everything they accuse the Muslims of being!



Peace
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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This accident is a result of a decade long Muslim demonization trough mass media. No wonder these brainwashed fools brought a pigs head on a stick to a Muslim festival - showing no respect for their fellow American citizens.

Muslims make up 0.8 percent of the U.S population, why is there so much focus on them in the U.S ?! I mean, Jews dont eat pork aswell - they are in greater numbers, try walking to a AIPAC summit with a pork head on a stick and see what happens.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by Lulzaroonie
reply to post by Honor93
 


Saying or doing something to incite violence is not protected!
So walking into a festival with a pigs head (offensive because Muslims view pigs and being unclean) and screaming at Muslims that they are going to burn in Hell wouldn't offensive to you, if you were devoutly Muslim, enjoying a religious festival and minding your own business?

According to the Freedom Forum Organization, legal systems, and society at large, recognize limits on the freedom of speech, particularly when freedom of speech conflicts with other values or rights.[40] Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography, religious belief or hate speech
edit on 27-6-2012 by Lulzaroonie because: (no reason given)
ok, these acts are not of such an extreme as to "incite" violence in this culture.
these acts, although disturbing at the least, are protected expressions of speech in a PUBLIC forum.
like it or lump it, they are protected speech.

our tv comedians have repeatedly presented more offensive acts to a wider audience.

let's just say, the protesters spread pigs blood across a few tables ... that act would be prohibited and punishable.
not words, screams, taunts, directionals (you'll go to hell, blah, blah, blah) or signage (pig head on a stick - i presume it wasn't dripping blood everywhere ?)

if you do not wish to be subjected to the lower forms of the public at large, do not invite them in or party in a public space and expect them to behave.
if they break the law, it isn't your right to assault them, contrary to what may be customary in your previous culture.

if this was a "religious festival", it should have been held on "religious grounds" not in the public forum and when the muslims assaulted the protesters, they were NOT "minding their own business".

a link to your FFO reference would be nice as i am not familiar.
however, opinion is just that, these folks broke the laws.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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The trouble with the radical Muslims is that they believe they have the right to initiate extreme violence to prove their point, sadly a stance seen in countries that support radical Islam, just a shame they believe its a 'right' in the West.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by Resurected
reply to post by Honor93
 


I dont think you can be taken to jail for throwing an empty plastic bottle...
toward a trash can and inadvertently hit someone, no, that's an accident.
if i hurl ANY projectile with intent to harm, it can be punished as a crime, even bodily fluids and an empty plastic bottle - which with any reasonable amount of force can take out an eye.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:21 AM
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Looks to me like nothing more than Christians thumbing their nose at the Muslims as a way of saying my god is better than yours.

You play with fire, you get burnt.

EDIT, I don't see any stones being thrown. Just water bottles. Thread title is misleading.
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:24 AM
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Just found this...




I notice you dont see the pigs head on astick in their video!!



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by Captain Beyond
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


We will get our shot at the muslims someday. We already know how the cowboys and indians thing turned out.
Same outcome.

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Lol you better take a good look around, devil..your numbers are dwindling..now might be a good time to distance yourself from your disgraceful, vile history and hope you don't have to answer for your sins..pray that the rest of us are more tolerant of you than you've been of us..just some advice for a dying breed, bigot



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


CHRISTIANS ?

Yeah right. More like fundamentalists carrying signs that were hostile to Arabs and then shooting it on video to say "Aww look at us. They attacked us because we're Christian"

NO ONE IS BUYING THAT STORY ! THIS AINT 1934

They attacked them because they were disrupting their festival with hate filled rhetoric and xenophobic material on the signs they were carrying.




This is the kind of irresponsible thinking that makes me think we should just step back and let it all go to hell. Why bother trying to grow a society based on respect and any kind of mutual responsibility.
You cant have rights with accepting that responsibility...and all I saw here were little kids..egged on ..acting in a manner that if my kid did it..would see him cop the wooden spoon and a year grounded.

The law applies to EVERYONE or no one. Where in US law does it say anyone has a right to throw missiles at another person, because they don't like what they are saying or doing?

The 'law' you are talking about is law of the jungle...devolved primitive non thinking unreasoned violence. You really want that?? Really? If you do go live in Somalia or the Sudan..that's what it ends up like when people give way to violence ad primitive ego.

The recorder was 100% in what the police were teaching those children that day..that if you riot..if you can scare them enough..they will run away and give you what you want. In that action you will eventually reap what you sow..

imo..

Regardless of the provocativeness..the violence..was wrong and should have been punished.

Ro



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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I am sick of stupid Americans and their idiotic Ideas on Islam.


If you truly want to learn about Islam, read the Koran. It is one of the most beautiful books you will have ever read.

Hate the extremists, not Islam.

Im glad the Christians got rocks to the dome. Bringing a pigs head to a muslim festival?!?!? What white trash! What assholes!
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by EvilBat
So you want to watch christian adults fight
muslim kids?


Whatever gave you that idea? I never said I could afford the tickets or pay per view bill.

All joking aside though, I don't care what religion any brat who threw something into my face believed in, because I would throw it right back so hard that it would have to be surgically removed from their brainwashed melon.

Luckily though, I don't attend rallies such as this or any other gathering of robots who worship mindless 2000 year old drivel. But, if you're into watching little foul mouthed punks get a lesson in ass kicking, that's your mentally deranged cup of tea, not mine.


It's not about me anyway, it's about the topic of the thread. Try educating yourself about the rules here before making ignoramous assumptions. No hard feelings though guy. ~$heopleNation



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Wow those kids sure have a mouth on them. No soap handy either! What kind of manners are they being taught?



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by Resurected
reply to post by Honor93
 


Then what you have is.. You dont know if the graffiti and arson where related and those acts are punnishable as hate crime, you dont know what was being thrown at the event, or who started the altercation but you do obviously have a side you still lean to even though you dont know any facts of the issues at hand?
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graffitti a hate crime ?

not in all the years of my life.
no one knows if the artist and arsonist are even related.

arson is a crime, sure but proving the artist had anything to do with the arson, at this point in time, is propaganda at its finest


your last comment isn't worthy a response unless you bothered to read my posts IN this thread. and yes, i have an opinion and i stand on it.
i don't need to see an edited video to know what i've read.

and, no media reports have indicated the protesters assaulted anyone.
the only "facts" that you could possibly have that i do not would be first-hand experience, care to share?



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:32 AM
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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Funny..

here in the UK its the muslims doing the inciting... Burning poppies on Remembrance day, spitting on our soldiers, calling for Christians and unbelievers to be beheaded...

And none of them got stoned..

Maybe we should start... Wonder what you lot what say bout that!



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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I am in the grey area in Spain(Asturias). We resisted and started the re-conquest. We have a saying here in northern Spain.

"Spain is Asturias, the rest is just conquered land". Not even Rome could make us submit.....YEAH!!

By the way, Spain has no resentment really with Muslims.(edit: and we were under their rule for 800 YEARS!) We have a richer culture for their presence here.

I think the only people who have a problem with them are radicals that have no balance in life, just like Muslim radicals. Both groups try and convince normal people to do dumb insulting things, like putting a pig's head on a stick and parading through a Muslim festival. Then they go online and say oh, look at the Muslims, they stoned us!

Crapola made to sway your opinion of people you never met. Not buying it.


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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by BODYBAGxPAT
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


I am sick of stupid Americans and their idiotic Ideas on Islam.


If you truly want to learn about Islam, read the Koran. It is one of the most beautiful books you will have ever read.

Hate the extremists, not Islam.

Im glad the Christians got rocks to the dome. Bringing a pigs head to a muslim festival?!?!? What white trash! What assholes!
edit on 6/27/12 by BODYBAGxPAT because: (no reason given)


Aren't the followers of Islam supposed to be the peaceful examples of a peaceful religion? You are spouting about not hating extremists and yet here we have a clashing with kids shouting nasty things and the egg throwing, and concrete at people's heads? At best, someone is teaching them to hate. Who is it? Who is doing the radicalization? It is happening in Britain too.

Calling the Christians white trash is really classy too by the way. Remind me never to sit down and have coffee with you.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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Since people seemed to miss it I will post it again..

On the off chance people want to see what actually occured instead of using a video that is biased.

Christians use Arab festival as platform


Published: June 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM




DEARBORN, Mich., June 16 (UPI) -- Christian missionaries reportedly taunted Muslims attending the annual Arab International Festival in Dearborn, Mich., telling them they would "burn in hell."

While there was no serious violence Friday night, some young Muslims threw plastic bottles and cans at the Christians and one poured water on a missionary who said the Muslims were "transgressing against God," the Detroit Free Press reported Saturday.

The Christians have become a regular feature of the festival, held in the largest Arab-American community in the United States, the newspaper said.

Signs carried by the Christians included one that read "Islam is a religion of blood and murder" and another with a drawing of a pig's head.

At least two Christian groups were present Friday. One took a gentler approach, handing out religious literature and urging Muslims to accept Jesus without denigrating Islam.

Festival organizers said they did not expect the more anti-Muslim group to return Saturday because they were scheduled to move on to a gay festival in Ohio.


Read more: www.upi.com...


More coverage -
Detroit Free Press - Christian missionary group with pig's head taunt Arab-Americans at Dearborn festival


Most of the confrontations were between elderly missionaries and Arab-American kids.


Talk about baiting...
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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by BODYBAGxPAT
reply to post by Honor93
 


You are trash. You think that people can just bring a pigs head to a peaceful muslim conference, and that is ok?


and when the muslims get pissed off at the outrageous act by a bunch of attention seeking, trailer trash assholes, and throw a pepsi bottle at them, you want to talk about pressing charges?



Where are people like you arguing about this crap when im out in public? I'd love to put a beating on you. I would thoroughly enjoy it. You are whats wrong with America today.



Well, it is interesting that illegal immigrants have been having rallies and they burn American flags and say horrible things. So nobody gets a free pass from me on this issue. Especially such classy people as yourself.





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