American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Ok, I don't even know what to think of this one. Looks like a bunch of Christians walk into a predominately Muslim festival, if I am understanding this right, and well...watch for yourself what happens.



They get stoned, egged, bottled, and cursed at by American Muslims. The police, outnumbered by a lot, are put in the position of having to escort the Christian group out. Even though they aren't the ones throwing the stuff!

So what is right here? Who is right here? The video guy makes some excellent points like "They can't give us two officers to protect us, but they sure can get 14 to lead us out!"

But I figured this one might provide an interesting conversation piece for the political madness forum- cause this is madness, if nothing else. Both sides have a right, but the police must make decisions based on manpower... Bizarre.

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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If a Christian group was crashing a Muslim festival, they obviously had some point of contention and expected backlash. They also seemed to expect the police to protect them. Why?

Natural consequences, if I throw trash in your yard, you have every right to kick it back in mine, and if it escalates and you kick my ass..... fine. That is what happens to people when they pick fights, eventually they get their ass kicked.

Good for the Muslims.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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Right to peaceably assemble? Silly me, I forgot that right doesn't extend to Christians anymore.



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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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CHRISTIANS ?

Yeah right. More like fundamentalists carrying signs that were hostile to Arabs and then shooting it on video to say "Aww look at us. They attacked us because we're Christian"

NO ONE IS BUYING THAT STORY ! THIS AINT 1934

They attacked them because they were disrupting their festival with hate filled rhetoric and xenophobic material on the signs they were carrying.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorMobius
What do you expect from dark skinned people. It's how they respond, try and call me racist or try to prove me wrong. Either way you lose....


Really? You think it would be difficult to prove violence is not specific to dark-skinned people? I'm pretty sure I could pull out about a 1000 stories proving you wrong.

I'll tell you a quick one from my little hometown area here. Happened in the 1950's when a young black boy made the egregious error of giving a birthday card to a little white girl in his class. The father of the white girl found the card, and him and a group of upstanding citizens proceeded to take the boy, tie his hands and feet, march him to a bluff over the Suwanee River, and subdue his mother and father and made them watch as the boy was forced to jump into the river. He of course drowned and died, because he told a white girl happy birthday. This was not that long ago.

But I suppose it was still his fault somehow for being dark-skinned?

I'm probably one of the most open people on ATS about race, and I'll admit my racist tendencies in a second, because I believe we all have them, but what you said is just ludicrous.

If I'm having a celebration for some reason, and someone ideologically opposed to me wants to come and crash it and ruin my good time, I'm going to toss some stuff at them too! The Christians obviously showed up there to pick a fight, and they got one, and then they cried to the police for protection. Stupid.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Muslims getting angry and aggressive? Who would have thunk?



According to the Koran and Hadith, Muhammad taught his followers to be violent against non-Muslims.

Muhammad


• Told followers that Jihad was the second highest thing after believing in Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25

• Stated he would fight until everyone admitted their was only one god, Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24

Burnt people for not praying Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 11, Verse 626

Forced non Muslims to be humbled, submit to Islam and pay jizyah tax.Koran Book 9 Verse 29


If Muhammad taught his followers that jiahd was second only to believing in Allah, that non Muslims should be humbled and submit to Islam and he himself stated he would fight until everyone admitted there was no god but Allah (he in fact conquered the Arabian peninsula before he died with armies of up to 12,000 men), in what sense is Islam a religion of peace?



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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorMobius
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Right to peaceably assemble? Silly me, I forgot that right doesn't extend to Christians anymore.


Our definitions of "peacably" are probably drastically different. Holding hateful signs and shouting through a megaphone are not peaceful in my opinion, and neither is a group of people intent on disrupting another group of people.

The rights guaranteed in the Constitution came at a time when people had personal responsibility and common sense. The peaceable assembly they had in mind were religious gatherings, chambers of commerce, educational groups, etc. The oppression they were trying to avoid was the oppression of knowledge and religion. They would never have approved of something like this chaotic scene. They would have agreed that the idiots deserved to be pummeled with stones. At the time of the Constitution people still dueled with pistols! You think this level of disrespect would have been tolerated? Hell no!



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Wow, has a single one of you even watched the whole video yet?



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Oh. Boi.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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Did they physically attack anyone? No



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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From a little while ago,
Christian missionary group with pig's head taunt Arab-Americans at Dearborn festival

www.freep.com...


Text Tensions flared Friday evening at the annual Arab International Festival in Dearborn as members of some Christian missionary groups — including one called the Bible Believers — taunted Arab Americans with a pig’s head and signs that promoted hatred of Islam.“You’re gonna burn in hell,” one missionary shouted at a group of young Arab-American boys listening to him speak on Warren Avenue, where the festival takes place.


Some of the signs the missionaries held read: "Islam is a religion of blood and murder" and "Muhammad (Islam's prophet) is a ... liar, false prophet, murderer, child molesting pervert


If this is the same group, and I'm sure it is, They werent there just for fun, they had a cause. They were spouting hate. They were carrying a freakin' pigs head! Do they deserved to be stoned?



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Wow, has a single one of you even watched the whole video yet?



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Oh. Boi.


Hey, I watched the first 3 minutes!! Well, actually I watched about 30 seconds, then skipped ahead to the megaphone bit, then skipped ahead to some cute little brown girl screaming at them to just go home, and then skipped to a group of guys talking about either leaving or kicking their ass, and then I saw some stuff get thrown, but all in all it was about 3 minutes.

Did I miss anything?



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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorMobius
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Did they physically attack anyone? No


BS and you know it. If I stand in front of your house, in the street, with a legal permit, and I shout hateful things at you. You should kick my ass. You have every right to kick my ass. The law might say otherwise, but you and I are men, and we know better. If you did kick my ass, and my brother and friends show up to defend me, and you tell them what happened, they will say that I deserved it, and they will drag my sorry ass home. There is "legal" and there is "right" and I tend to follow what is right and let the legalities take care of themselves.





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