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Originally posted by Balkan
Uh, perhaps the universe can't be dated because there is no beginning (or end) of time?
Originally posted by fixer1967
Everything has a beginning and ending.
Originally posted by Balkan
Originally posted by fixer1967
Everything has a beginning and ending.
Says who?? Maybe an end to carbon, but the gulf itself? Hmmmm..edit on 26-6-2012 by Balkan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by fixer1967
Originally posted by Balkan
Originally posted by fixer1967
Everything has a beginning and ending.
Says who?? Maybe an end to carbon, but the gulf itself? Hmmmm..edit on 26-6-2012 by Balkan because: (no reason given)
I give you "forever" minus a few sconds and you want them as well? I call that just a bit greedy.
Given enough time everything has an end even time its self. We are talking about time on a scale that we can not even guess at.
We are talking just short of forever but if you want last few seconds then take them I have no use for them.
Originally posted by crankyoldman
Originally posted by Tindalos2013
This unique system constitutes the most distant cluster known to "host" a giant gravitationally lensed arc. Finding this ancient gravitational arc may yield insight into how, during the first moments after the Big Bang, conditions were set up for the growth of hefty clusters in the early universe.
I still maintain in my opinion that the standard theory of creation accepted and known as The Big Bang Theory is quite flawed and will remain an unknown quantity until more sophisticated technology allows the value of it to be realized. For instance, since our entire universe maintains status within a mega-black hole how can any measurement be taken at face value when the results only present a distorted variable.
I agree, the "theory" and that is all it is, is based on the idea that all of reality exits "out there" and we can measure things by the constant of the speed of light, as if that is the only baseline. But, I have read that that speed isn't constant at all, at least when measured on earth. Even more curious, who said the speed of light measured on earth, in earth based controlled arena's is the constant in all of matter? If walking on the moon is different then walking on the earth, it would seem to me that the speed of the constant might change too, and if so, then how far away are things really?
sitting here and guessing what happened, from this tiny moment of all of creation is the height of hubris. We assume and wow is it an assumption, that there was a beginning, a middle - where we are, and an end. And because we are so sure that is how everything, everywhere is, we assume that the begging was a pop and the end was a pop, and we're super smart because we know all of life is a beginning, middle and end. What if there was no beginning, only a middle? what if nothing is expanding, but collapsing but our eyes simply can't figure that out?
The theories are not the problem really, it is the hubris with which the theories are emphatically stated as absolute fact and case closed is what is funny to me.
Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by XPLodER
..maybe this is answer
The Big Bang Never Happened
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by XPLodER
..maybe this is answer
The Big Bang Never Happened
www.youtube.com...
so what happens if we find a fully developed galaxy older than the universe?
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by XPLodER
..maybe this is answer
The Big Bang Never Happened
www.youtube.com...
Very interesting documentary... thanks for sharing.