Is Death An Illusion? Evidence Suggests Death Isn’t the End

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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IMO the key term is restricted. They still have, and depend upon, some degree of their senses and brain activity. Total sensory deprivation, as in death, is an entirely different matter.

I had a cousin who spent 3 months in a DEEP coma after a stroke in Jan 2000.. A few days after he miraculously regained his senses he was able to tell me details of every one of my visits, 3 in total, not only what I said (I've heard that hearing is the last sense to go), but what I wore (his eyes were closed, no REM); etc. And yet he did suffer a degree of both permanent memory loss and motor function. Impressed me. I wish I had queried him on other matters (had he 'met' his deceased parents or our grandparents). There was a much greater affinity between us after this event. At his wake years later I asked and he had not shared such with anyone else including his 4 children who had visited him often.




posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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Jealous ? My cognitive abilities were of keen interest to the therapists so I've had numerous professional tests .

ATS sure has a lot of jerks ..

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Nah, I'm comfortable with mine hovering around 130


I'm sure they would if this were true, but depending on the standard of deviation, a 190 is anywhere from nearly 4 deviations over the norm, to exactly 6.

If your SD was 15 or 16, you're (or were, and if we believe that IQ actually tests raw intelligence...I don't) statistically one of the smartest persons in the world.

What is the chance I'm talking to that guy?

Yea, highly improbable.
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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This is what I lean for, and what someone who had an IQ of 150
would consider as well.

It may register as being brain-dead, but that doesn't mean this is the actual case.

Also, as far as describing things which "can't be sensed"....come on guys...you realize the possibilities in contextual clues/subconscious processing that could be readily available in such a state?
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Like Einstein said, Energy never ends, it merely transforms.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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People "think" conciousness persists after the body dies.
People "think" conciousness does not persist after the body dies.

The only thing that either "side" can "prove" is that the persistant "We don't know for sure." is and always will be there.

We hate not being sure.

What's that flushing sound?

Oh it's the global economy still collapsing - I "think" I'm sure about that.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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"Evidence suggests"... lol, poor science. Its so far behind



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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This should piss you off ..so I'll post it too ..Oh Hater of Man ...

I was also documented as being Telepathic and Telekinetic after my experience ..

A TV show in the 80's covered my case .

In one instance I solved a scrambled rubits cube in 15 seconds ..without looking at it !

I constantly told people what was about to happen ...then it did .

Half the people thought I was the devil ..and the rest were just scared .

I know you wont believe it .. But I don't care this is for those who are open and alive .

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IQ test are BS and in no way represent ones true abilities . I refer to them for those who are only comfortable with numbers .

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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It has always been my understanding that IQ measures your ABILITY to learn. You may indeed have great ability which you have never used and come off as dumb as a post.

Totally off topic but would make a good thread. They say 95 percent of all geniuses are left handed. IMO a total fallacy due to flawed testing. Me? A left handed 187 IQ!! That and $1.06 gets me the same cup of McD coffee as an idiot.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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For such a high IQ, you are making quite the assumptions and misinterpreting my stance!

Look back to my first post. I said I have no clue for sure, and doubt that anyone does either. I'm merely critically minded.

You got a youtube link to this video show from the 80's? I'm interested to see it





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I'm a lefty as well. I must have got the poo end of the stick to test so low compared to all you high geniuses


seriously....I'm calling bs on the both of you.

HAHAHA!!


IQ
15 SD Percentile
Rarity: 1/X

16 SD Percentile
Rarity: 1/X

202
99.9999999995%
190,057,377,928

99.9999999908%
10,881,440,294

201
99.9999999992%
119,937,672,336

99.9999999862%
7,252,401,045

200
99.9999999987%
76,017,176,740

99.9999999794%
4,852,159,346

199
99.9999999979%
48,390,420,202

99.9999999693%
3,258,706,819

198
99.9999999968%
30,938,221,975

99.9999999545%
2,196,908,409

197
99.9999999950%
19,866,426,228

99.9999999327%
1,486,736,899

196
99.9999999922%
12,812,462,045

99.9999999010%
1,009,976,678

195
99.9999999880%
8,299,126,114

99.9999998548%
688,720,101

194
99.9999999815%
5,399,067,340

99.9999997879%
471,441,334

193
99.9999999717%
3,527,693,270

99.9999996913%
323,940,499

192
99.9999999568%
2,314,980,850

99.9999995524%
223,436,817

191
99.9999999345%
1,525,765,721

99.9999993536%
154,701,783

190
99.9999999010%
1,009,976,678

99.9999990699%
107,519,234


189
99.9999998511%
671,455,130

99.9999986669%
75,011,253

188
99.9999997770%
448,336,263

99.9999980964%
52,530,944

187
99.9999996674%
300,656,786

99.9999972920%
36,927,646


186
99.9999995062%
202,496,482

99.9999961624%
26,057,620
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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This should piss you off ..so I'll post it too ..Oh Hater of Man ...

I was also documented as being Telepathic and Telekinetic after my experience ..

A TV show in the 80's covered my case .

In one instance I solved a scrambled rubits cube in 15 seconds ..without looking at it !

I constantly told people what was about to happen ...then it did .

Half the people thought I was the devil ..and the rest were just scared .

I know you wont believe it .. But I don't care this is for those who are open and alive .

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ps

IQ test are BS and in no way represent ones true abilities . I refer to them for those who are only comfortable with numbers .

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I will give you the benefit of the doubt sir. I will believe your claims if it makes you feel better and if it justifies your attitude to yourself.

However your weak ad hominem attacks show a man incapable of civil discussion, restraint and an open-mind. You call me names because I don't blindly believe you yet you won't accept what I have to say. This is the antithesis of an of having an open mind. If anything, it is fanaticism.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Sorry your moniker infuriates me I do admit ..I know not why ?

It may be that your rigid dogmatic views do too .
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Did you not read that I thought the lefty genius relationship was a fallacy? While I may have tested at 187 I know dozens of people whom I consider 'smarter' or more intelligent than myself including my son who is not a lefty.

And what will you accept as 'proof' of IQ?

Ever taken the Watson=Glaser Critical Thinking Appraisal? I scored the highest of 2300+ but damned if I know why, thus I am inclined to dismiss it's value.
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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reply to post by LesMisanthrope
 


Sorry your moniker infuriates me I do admit ..I know not why ?

It may be that your rigid dogmatic views do too .
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The name is a play on the book Le Misanthrope by Moliere. Feel better?

Sorry OP. This guy can't handle opposition.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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"Sorry OP. This guy can't handle opposition."

I regret to advise you I do not share your opinion. Everything is relative, ask Einstein!
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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by oghamxx
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"Sorry OP. This guy can't handle opposition."

I regret to advise you I do not share your opinion. Everything is relative, ask Einstein!
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Please, don't regret that. I wouldn't expect anything less.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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On the other hand....... we have more fingers.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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In my opinion, I believe death is unknown. We will never truly know what will happen to us once we die. There are many explanations out there, but we will just have to find out once our time comes.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Sk8ergrl
Great thread I was very intrigued. Some say that our soul is made of energy aka light which can store information so what if all of our memories, feelings, etc can be backed up to our soul before we die and sent off into the cosmos heaven. We see spirits are orbs of light as light is the quickest way to travel through dimensions. I do really think that when we die we do get uploaded from physical body.


Nice analogy about uploading. We are able to 'upload' and 'download' documents / images etc from digital code / electrical / radio etc signals that exist though are only visible in physical form when uploaded or downloaded.

There is every possibility that 'souls' / individual being codes / complete past life/ future/ purpose signature that exists in dimensions and is able to physically exist when the specific data is processed for physical dimensions.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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I came up with a (theory) that one you die your just promoted to the next dimesion untill you get to heaven.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Consciousness doesn't explain anything because it it doesn't exist on its own or outside the body.



If you consider that our perception is nothing more than electromagnetic signals being processed by our physical brain. It would not be hard to imagine, that if that signal was intercepted and replaced with another set of signals, then your concept of what and who you are, what you see feel and hear would be altered.

What's more, because those signals also contain what you believe is your memory, you would literally feel that you where someone else in a different environment completely. You wouldn't even question it, the only thing you would know with any certainty is 'I AM

If for instance, I could intercept the electromagnet signals entering your brain with my own, you would think that you where me having my experiences.

That electromagnetic energy, If that is truly what it is, is removed from the body it will not cease to exist as it is held together by our soul for want of a better word. Our soul is actually a being in another frequency or dimension. To lose the physical is to lose the limitations of your perception.

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