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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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Complements from my great old friend how right he is.

Bible Reading: John 10:22 -30.

Aim: To prove from the Bible that when Jesus Christ saves us, He keeps us saved forever.
We cannot lose Christ's salvation.

Introduction: Many religions that teach works for salvation, also teach that we can lose
salvation. This follows logically because if we are saved partly or wholly by our works, then
we can fail to keep up the good works and hence lose salvation. The truth is that if we call
on Christ to save us, and He saves us, then He keeps us saved forever. The following
scriptures show this:

1. "I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish." John 10:28.

• This is an unconditional guarantee.
• Eternal life means saved for eternity.
• What does "never perish" mean?

2. "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will
perform it until the day of Jesus Christ." Philippians 1:6.

• Christ will perform His work in us to the Second Coming.

3. "The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD... Though he fall, he shall not be
utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand ... The LORD .. forsaketh
not his saints; they are preserved for ever." Psalms 37:23-28.

• Four times God tells us that He keeps us saved.

4. "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor
powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other
creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus
our Lord." Romans 8:38,39.

• For a born again believer to be lost, he must somehow be separated from the love
of God, and become an object of God's wrath. Paul says that this is impossible.

5. "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him,
seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." Hebrews 7:25.
"to the uttermost" means "forever."

6. "By his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal
redemption for us." Hebrews 9:12.

• Redemption means to buy back by paying a price. Since we have an eternal
redemption, we are redeemed for all eternity.

7. "... receive the promise of eternal inheritance." Hebrews 9:15.

• Our inheritance is for eternity.
• Our eternal inheritance is promised by God.

8. "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the
heavenly." 1 Corinthians 15:49.

• "Shall" means that it is a certainty that we will bear the heavenly image.

9. "To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved
in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation
ready to be revealed in the last time." 1 Peter 1:4,5.

• Six times God tells us that we are secure forever.
• "Fadeth not away" means perpetual.

10. "I am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against
that day." 2 Timothy 1:12.

• Paul had committed the keeping of his soul to Christ. He was sure that Christ would
keep him saved to his heavenly kingdom.

11. "The Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his
heavenly kingdom..." 2 Timothy 4:18.

• The Lord will deliver us and preserve us.

12. "Who shall also confirm you unto the END, that ye may be blameless in the day of
our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful ..." 1 Corinthians 1:8,9.

13. "When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in
glory." Colossians 3:4.

• Ye shall appear with Christ in glory, no if's or but's.

14. "This is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life." 1 John 2:25.
"In hope of eternal life which God, that cannot lie, promised.." Titus 1:2.

• God has promised eternal life to us, and He cannot lie.

15. "Him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." John 6:37

• If we come to Jesus Christ for salvation, He will not cast us out of salvation.

16. "If our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an
house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens." 2 Cor. 5:1.

• We know that if our body dies, we go to heaven for eternity.

17. "And this is the record, that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
"He that has the Son has life ... that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life." 1 John
5:11,12,13.

• God has recorded that we may know that we have eternal life in Christ.

18. "Whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever
believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life ..." John 3:15, 16, 36.

• Twice God says that we will not perish.
• Three times God says that we have eternal life.

19. "There is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repents." Luke
15:10.

• If we could lose salvation, angels would not rejoice at salvation, but when we enter
heaven.
• If we could lose salvation, we could not know for sure, as 1 John 5:13 says we can

20. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of
God: not of works lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2: 8, 9.
• God is very zealous for us to know that God alone is responsible for man's salvation.
Every argument against the eternal security of the believer is based on the human
element. As God definitely excludes all human element in salvation, every one of
these arguments is thereby ruled out.

21. "Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure
to all the seed ..." Romans 4:16.

• Eternal life is promised,
• it is sure,
• it is to all believers.

Question: If we receive salvation by faith and not by the works of the law (good
works), then why is it necessary to keep the law (to keep up good works) in order to
keep salvation?

22. "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the
saints, and of the household of God." Ephesians 2:19.

• All who truly know Christ as their Saviour, are already "citizens" of heaven, enrolled
and registered in heaven.

23. Six times God says that we can KNOW that we have eternal life:
i) "that believe in the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye have
eternal life."
1 John 5:13.
ii) "now are we the sons of God,… we KNOW that, when he shall appear we shall be
like him.” I John 3:2.
iii) "we KNOW that ... we have ... an house eternal in the heavens." 2 Corinthians
5:1.
iv) "KNOWING that he which raised up the Lord Jesus, shall raise up us also by
Jesus, and shall present us with you." 2 Corinthians 4:14.
v) "Do ye not KNOW that the saints shall judge the world?
KNOW ye not that we SHALL judge angels? 1 Corinthians 6:2,3.
vi) "be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch
as ye KNOW that your labour is not in vain in the Lord." 1 Corinthians 15:58.
If we lead a person to Christ, then they lost salvation, our labour would be a waste of
time, in vain. However, it is not in vain, because God keeps them saved, even if they
backslide.

24. "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." Hebrews 13:5.

25. "For by one offering He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified." Hebrews
10:14.

26. Eleven things that “SHALL BE”, prove that Christ keeps us saved.
There is no question about whether or not certain things will be so.
It is plainly stated that they “SHALL BE”.
i) "Then shall ye also appear with him in glory." Colossians 3:4.
ii) "Being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
Romans 5:9.
iii) "They which receive the gift of righteousness shall reign in life." Romans 5:17.
iv) "He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies."
Romans 8:11.
v) "The glory which shall be revealed in us." Romans 8:18.
vi) "Who shall also confirm you unto the end." 1 Corinthians 1:8.
vii) "We shall also bear the image of the heavenly." 1 Corinthians 15:49.
Written to those at Corinth and "in every place." 1 Corinthians 1:2.
viii) We shall all be changed." 1 Corinthians 15:51.
ix) "Shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you." 2 Corinthians
4:14.
x) "When he shall appear, we shall be like Him ..." 1 John 3:2.
xi) "We shall judge angels." 1 Corinthians 6:3.

27. "The gifts and calling of God are without repentance." Romans 11:29.

• Eternal life is a gift from God. Romans 6:23.
• Holy Spirit is a gift from God. 1 Thessalonians 4:8.
• Righteousness is a gift from God. Romans 5:17.
God will not take back His gifts.

28. Sin is not charged against us.
"Their sins and iniquities will I remember no more." Hebrews 10:17.
“God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses
unto them.” 2 Corinthians 5:19.

29. Chastening proves salvation's permanency.
Chastening is a corrective discipline to purify our life, like "child training".
God chastens us now in this life, in love when we sin to return us to His will.
"My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked
of him. For whom the Lord loveth, he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he
receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is
he whom the Father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof ALL
are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons." Hebrews 12:5-8.

• Three results of chastening in Hebrews 12:9-11 are:
i) we give God reverence;
ii) for our profit - we learn holiness;
iii) yielding the peaceable fruit of righteousness.
• Two methods of chastening in I Corinthians 11:29,30 are: i) sickness; and ii)
death.
"When we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be
condemned with the world." 1 Corinthians 11:31,32.

30. Our destiny is to be conformed to the image of His Son, not to be lost.
"For whom he did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of
His Son .. called ... justified ... glorified." Romans 8:29,30.

31. We are indwelt and sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption.
"Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."
Ephesians 4:30.
"I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide
with you forever; even the Spirit of truth." John 14:16.
Question: Did Jesus promise that the Holy Spirit will abide with them until they became
lost? NO! Forever.

32. Christ is our Advocate and Intercessor.
Question: If sin in a believer's life will cause him to be condemned, then for what
purpose is Christ our Advocate or Intercessor?
"Christ who also maketh intercession for us." Romans 8:34.
"He ever liveth to make intercession for us." Hebrews 7:25.
"If any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.” 1
John 2:1.

33. Our union with Christ, means we are in Christ.
i) Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular." I Corinthians 12:27.
Question: Will Christ permit his body to be dismembered? No.
ii) Our sin was counted as Christ's, now we have Christ's righteousness.
"He hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the
righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21.
iii) "If children, then heirs, ... joint heirs with Christ." Romans 8:17.
Because I am "in Christ", my eternal future is linked to Christ's as a joint heir.
If Christ can be lost, so can I.

Conclusion
Security, not fear, produces Godly living. Romans 12:12; 1 Corinthians 6:15.
Loss of salvation is never threatened.

edit on 7/1/12 by GENERAL EYES because: amended all-caps title




posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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Godly living really has nothing to do with what we do or don't do. Being righteous in Jesus means being yourself. When you are yourself without guilt or condemnation you are truly free. When we are free love flows freely. The atomic clock has stopped, eternity has arrived, rejoice. Speak life and hope, not fear and death. The world is changing and coming back to life. The future is bright and the future is now. Put a smile on no matter the circumstances and you put a smile on your Father's face. Love never fails. Try it it's contagious.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:41 AM
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What is your stance on the lies and the atrocities committed in the name of "Christ?" I love it how whenever someone posts something involving religion on this website, how they make it the be all end all and how Jesus is going to save you this and heal you that, but have you ever realized that perhaps you are just a sheep who is being laughed at by those who "teach" you "his" word? Seriously, your concept of salvation is that of an idea that has never been conclusively proven, and I find it kind of pathetic that you probably wasted over an hour typing out that ridiculous, brainwashing filth, and my response took five minutes.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:45 AM
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Also, the reality of it is all of these damn posts involving how Jesus saves people and what not need to cease and desist. Even if the guy did exist, all North American renditions of him would be entirely false as he was born in the middle east, and I do not know about anyone else here, but very rarely do Caucasian people come from that area of the world.

Its 2012, Jesus has not come back, probably never will because he never existed, and is just a tool for simple people to believe their lives are better than what they are.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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and I do not know about anyone else here, but very rarely do Caucasian people come from that area of the world.


Actually almost all Israeli people look caucasian.

vvv



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:11 AM
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JESUS CHRIST KEEPS US SAVED FOREVER

WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING THIS AT ME?

Here is one for you.....

NO HE DOES NOT!

I don't need a wall of words crafted in order to manipulate and control thrown at me every single hour on the thread feed,,,,, oh bugger it, I'm tired and going to bed - you just go away please.

Mickierocksman



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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My stance is the same as if someone was to commit atrocities in your name, I would not be impressed.
Please don’t mistake a flesh and blood born again man or woman believer for a religious person. The Latin word from which the English word "religion" is derived means "to bind up." Jesus did not come to bind us up in rules and regulations or rituals of devotion, but to set us free to be man as God inended.
PROOF OF CHRIST AND THE BIBLE
Every religion in the world says that they are right and other religions are wrong. How do
we know which one is right? Most people have asked this question at some time. Just
because you are born into a certain religion does not prove that religion to be the right one,
even though you may want it to be. The rightness of any religion is determined by the
credentials of its founder and by the evidence of divine inspiration of its textbook. Try
to put aside any previously held ideas as we study the unique credentials of Jesus Christ
and of the Bible. Ask yourself if any other religions match these claims.
Let us summarise the credentials of Christ and the Bible as follows:

1. Jesus Christ claimed to be God, the Truth and the only Way to eternal life
because:
i) Many details of His life were predicted in the Old Testament, many years before
his birth.
ii) He did many supernatural miracles during His three-year ministry, showing his
power to:
- raise the dead
- still storms
- correctly predict the future
- cast out demons from people
- heal the sick
iii) He rose from the dead after three days, never to die again. Nobody else has
ever done this. This shows that those people who have Jesus Christ as their
Saviour will rise from the dead also. He was seen by hundreds of people daily
after His resurrection (I Corinthians 15:5-8).
iv) He solves the sin problem by dying on the cross as our substitute to pay the
penalty for our sins. Other religions say “be good, do your best, keep the rules,
and you might make it, but you can never be sure, so keep trying hard”. Christ
says, “Receive me as your Saviour, and I give to you eternal life, and you shall
never perish” (John 10:28), because I have taken the punishment due for your
sins. You may know that you have eternal life (1 John 5:13).
v) Jesus Christ claimed to be God and had the credentials to prove it.
vi) Jesus Christ's life when scrutinised shows Him to be sinless as He claimed. No
other religious founder claimed to be God or to be sinless. Other religions just
have nice teachings.

2. The Bible is the Word of God for these reasons:
i) Its Unity.
ii) Scientific accuracy.
iii) Archaeology
iv) Fulfilled prophecies.
v) Jesus Christ called it the Word of God (John 10:35; Mark 7:13; Luke 8:11 “seed
is the..”).
vi) It has infinitely superior teachings over any other book.
- The Bible has in it nothing but truth, while all other books have truth mixed
with error, like jewels mixed with mud
- The Bible contains all truth. Every proven moral truth is found in the Bible.
- The Bible contains more truth than all other books put together.
vii) Its victory over attack, and its survival for over 2000 years.
viii) The character of those who accept and those who reject the Bible.
- The people best acquainted with God, and who live the most unselfish, moral
lives, say that the Bible is God's book.
- The people least acquainted with God, and who live more for self, say that
the Bible is not God's word. Who will you believe? The stronghold of the
Bible is the pure, unselfish happy home. The stronghold of unbelief is the
pub, brothel, and the casino.
ix) The influence of the Bible to save, purify, gladden, beautify and lift men's lives
up to God. The Bible has transformed millions of the worst sinners into humble,
loving, unselfish, and caring saints.
x) The inexhaustible depth of the Bible. Most man-written books can be
thoroughly understood and mastered in one or two readings. You can read the
Bible over 100 times and still discover new, fresh, exciting and amazing truths. It
comes from the mind of God.
PROOF OF THE BIBLE TO BE THE WORD OF GOD.
Let us examine proof of the Bible from the viewpoints of unity, science, archaeology and
prophecy. Our faith and understanding of God's Word can be greatly increased by studying
Bible proofs available to us. This helps us to defend the faith and give good reasons to
those who ask us why we believe in Christ and the Bible. (I Peter 3:15).

1. UNITY
The Bible was given by God to 40 writers, over a period of 1600 years, in 66 books. It
contains history, prophecy, science, law, doctrine, morality, origins and human
biographies, yet never do we see even the slightest disagreement between the writers on
any subject. If you ask 40 of your friends to discuss their opinions on the past, the future,
morality, origins, law, philosophy, etc. you will find a very great disagreement and
difference of opinion. The Bible, however, agrees 100% on every subject it discusses,
giving strong proof that it comes from the mind of God.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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Well, lets start with showing all these old people hanging around that have eternal life to the world to support this claim.

Plus, introduce everyone to Jesus in person and have him shake everyone's hand.


Should be easy enough. If you told the truth.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 08:21 AM
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What do you feel a wall of text accomplishes here?

Do you actually think people are reading it?

Is it about pasting up so much text that no one will bother to read and argue it with you?

You need to be succint and concise.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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I guess the Christian Soap Box preachers haven't notices that a wall of text doesn't impress anyone.


But, It does explain why the Govt is falling apart due to the issue that so many require so little to buy nonsense.


Everyone needs to get back to the Show-Me and verify in person, not taking any wall of words as anything more than puff stuff.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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It must be true!!

The OP used CAPSLOCK!!



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Once saved always saved is BS theology...

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy

The Holy Spirit 'does' or 'can' fulfill the commandments of God in you to make you righteous. The verse in Jude clearly points out that the answer is 'can' and not 'does'

That is why in Philippians 4:13, were are told "I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me"

The fault in the Old covenant was that there was no forgiveness component in it and the people did not realize that they would not be strong enough to keep it. That is why the Spirit is given to us to that we can call upon to strengthen us if we are feeling weak, it doesn't complete the 10 commandments for us like we are on autopilot or something. It warns/convicts us of danger and temptation but if we turn from this warning then NO, righteousness departs from us and to be made clean again me must repent of our sin.

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The 'walk' requires action on our parts and we can definitely walk away from the spirit, even if we believe Jesus is the Christ. As we learn in James 'faith without works is dead'.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Good OP, couldn't say it better. Once you give yourself to him no power in the universe can take you from his hand, not Satan, not even yourself.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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The fault in the Old covenant was that there was no forgiveness component in it and the people did not realize that they would not be strong enough to keep it.


The fault with the old covenant was that it couldn't be kept period, or they wouldn't have needed sin sacrifices to make up for their shortcomings. The forgiveness component was there, Aaron was a peacemaker. Miriam recieved forgiveness after being struck with leperousy, Moses forgave Aaron for making the golden calf. The old covenant was given to them to show them that without a redeemer they were dead in their sins and without hope and it taught them that no matter how hard they strive they will never be perfect and this remains true to this day. We may be changed of spirit but we are not perfect and you can spend the rest of your life trying not to sin but you will fail because of our corrupted flesh. Without his grace we wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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1 Corinthians 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

I pray people would read the writtings, they may find comfort in knowing once save always save.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Hallelujah!




posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by willie9696
Godly living really has nothing to do with what we do or don't do. Being righteous in Jesus means being yourself. When you are yourself without guilt or condemnation you are truly free. When we are free love flows freely. The atomic clock has stopped, eternity has arrived, rejoice. Speak life and hope, not fear and death. The world is changing and coming back to life. The future is bright and the future is now. Put a smile on no matter the circumstances and you put a smile on your Father's face. Love never fails. Try it it's contagious.

Perfect, couldn't have said it better myself.

It's the end of time, because the beginning of eternity is the end of time.

It is a time for celebration and for rejoicing, a time to reflect on the final page of the Bible and realize that we're there, now, where all who thirst can freely drink the living water of the flow of eternal life!

Ironically, the fundamentalists will be the last to realize this great truth, that the work is complete, that Babylon has already fallen and the saints are marching in!



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Thank you for your input, It's nice to hear from you. If you would kindly read the below writtings and let me know your thoughts.

A closer study of passages that some use to teach loss of salvation.

Some Bible passages may appear on the surface to teach that a saved person may be lost.
However, on closer study they perfectly harmonize with the overwhelming weight of
Scripture which teaches the security of the believer.

The basic principle of Bible study and interpretation is that the Bible is one great,
harmonious presentation of truth, and that each part agrees with every other part. If an
apparent meaning contradicts the vast body of Scripture, then we must seek another
meaning.

Question: Why do people misunderstand verses of this kind?
Answer: 1. Some verses concern chastening of believers.
2. Some are taken out of context.
3. Some refer to unbelievers.

Note: You must not throw out 1,000 clear verses on security of the believer and hold on to
two or three unclear verses that require deeper study that on the surface seem to teach loss
of salvation.
Let us consider answers to these passages:

1. Ezekiel 3:20; 18:4 and 33:13,18 teaches about physical death as a punishment for
the sin of Israelites under the Law dispensation, not loss of salvation.

a) “Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit
iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not
given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath
done shall not be remembered: but his blood will I require at thine hand.” (Ezekiel
3:20).

b) “Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is
Mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.” (Ezekiel 18:4).

c) “When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own
righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousness’ shall not be remembered;
but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.” (Ezekiel 33:13).

d) “When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he
shall even die thereby.” (Ezekiel 33:18).

- a) Ezekiel 3:20. “he shall die in his sin”. If a righteous person had left the path of
righteousness, he was in danger of physical death. This does not refer to a person
losing salvation. The one who obeyed God’s Law was to be protected during the
approaching Babylonian judgment, but those who broke the Law could expect death.

- b) Ezekiel 18:4 “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” Check the context: A proverb in
Israel was “The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on
edge.” Ezekiel 18:2. This meant that people thought that they were suffering, not
because of their sins, but because of their parent’s sins. They were blaming God for
punishing them unjustly. God saw that this false proverb had to be refuted. It is true
that the effects of sin are serious and long lasting, but God does not punish innocent
children for the parent’s sins. In blaming others, they were denying their own guilt,
and charging God with injustice. God replies: “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
(18:4), meaning that those who are guilty will receive their own deserved
punishment; in some cases “death.”

- c,d)Ezekiel 33:13,18 is Ezekiel’s second commissioning as a watchman with a
different message (587 BC). “for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for
it”. It was still an individual accountability and responsibility, but the message's thrust
was on God's restoration of Israel. His first commissioning in 3:1-21 in 595 BC was a
ministry of judgments, which was now completed.
Conclusion: These passages are not referring to spiritual death of a righteous man
losing salvation, but to a righteous man who turns to sin, and his sins bringing the
punishment of physical death upon him.



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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2. “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Matthew 24:13).
Some say that we must endure to keep ourselves saved until we die, or we will lose
salvation. The Bible never says that salvation from the penalty of sin is by enduring. It
is by believing on Christ, not by our works. Believers in the seven year Tribulation
period must endure the Antichrist’s persecution until the seven years are finished. It is
not referring to the spiritual salvation of a believer’s soul, but refers to people being
rescued by Christ returning to defeat the Antichrist.

3. “And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a
wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not
having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the
servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away and cast him into outer
darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”(Matthew 22:11-13).
This parable is about a king who prepared a wedding (marriage feast) for his son
(Matthew 22:1-4).

1. Marriage feast = the Millennial age, beginning when Christ returns to earth.

2. Man without a wedding garment = someone not clothed in Christ’s righteousness,
and is therefore unsaved.

3. Outer darkness = he is cast into darkness outside Christ’s kingdom. At the
beginning of Christ’s 1,000 year kingdom, all who are not saved are taken from the
earth in judgment as represented by this man. (Matthew 13:41,49; 3:12; 25:30, 41-
46; 24:37-41).

4. Five wise and five foolish virgins
“And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in
with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other
virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto
you,I know you not”(Matthew 25:10-12).
Some say the five foolish virgins who took no oil represent Christians who have lost
their salvation. Not so!

1. Marriage feast = the 1,000 year kingdom age of Christ on earth.
2. Five wise virgins = those saved.
3. Five foolish virgins = unsaved people, because:

a) They took no oil. Oil is a symbol of the Holy Spirit.
“If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.” Romans 8:9.

b) The Lord says: “I know you not.” See Matthew 7:21-23.



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5. Parable of three servants
“And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and
gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 25:30).
The earthly kingdom set up by Christ will be a place of light and blessing. To be cast
into “outer darkness” means to be cast out of the kingdom into the darkness of death
outside. The word “servant” does not always refer to believers. All men are
responsible to serve God. eg: rulers are the ministers of God (Romans 13:4), as are
ungodly kings (Jeremiah 25:9). The servant cast into outer darkness represents an
unbeliever who is on the earth at the time of Christ’s return who is taken from the earth
in judgment.

6. “Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being
led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.” (2 Peter
3:17).
It does not say “fall from your salvation”, but from “your own stedfastness.”
“Stedfastness” in Greek means: “firm condition of mind.” A person may be saved, but
be unstedfast in his mind. It is not discussing loss of salvation, but losing one's mental
convictions on various issues.

7. “Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.” (1 Corinthians
10:12).
The context here is a warning to Christians about the possibility of falling into sin or
backsliding. It does not teach that a believer may fall out of salvation.

8. The Vine
“I am the true vine, and My Father is the husbandman. Every branch in Me that
beareth not fruit He taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, He purgeth it,
that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have
spoken unto you. Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in Me. I am the vine, ye
are the branches: He that abideth in Me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much
fruit: for without Me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in Me, he is cast forth as
a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and,
they are burned.” (John 15:1-6).
This passage is an illustration and the problem is that it is possible to stretch an
illustration far beyond its intended meaning.

a) Abiding in the vine = a Christian abiding or remaining in close, unbroken fellowship
with Christ. Fruit is produced.

b) Abiding not in the vine = broken fellowship with Christ and fruitlessness.
This refers not to our “standing” before God of salvation, but to our “state” of not
living in close fellowship with Christ. We are faced with three problems in this
passage:

1) “He taketh away” (15:2), means that those believers who do not bear fruit
are taken away or lifted up out of their place. Taketh away = lifted up from
the ground. The Father reserves the right to remove an unfruitful believer to
heaven. This is maximum discipline of physical death. Fruitful branches are
purged or pruned to bear more fruit. Therefore, both fruitful and unfruitful
branches are under the immediate care of the Father (the Husbandman).
Purging means to cleanse a branch from filth and impurity by washing off
insects, parasites and moss. The washing is by the Word of God. (15:3).

2) “He is cast forth as a branch, and is withered.” (15:6).
If a believer does not abide in Christ, he is out of fellowship with Christ, his
public testimony is rejected by men, and his spiritual vitality is diminished
or withered. He is like the castaway in 1 Corinthians 9:27 who is
disapproved but not lost. All backsliders have a withered, reduced spiritual
vitality.

3) “Men gather them, and cast them into the fire, they are burned.” (15:6)
Notice the plural pronouns “them” and “they”. It is not “men gather him, and
cast him into the fire, and he is burned”, as it would have been if it referred to
losing salvation or to a professor. The “them” and “they” are what issues
from the one who has been cast forth as a branch - dead works: wood, hay,
stubble, which will be burned at the Judgment Seat of Christ, as 1 Corinthians
3:15 tells us: “If any man’s work shall be burned (the same word as in John
15:6), he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.”
Key: Hence "them" and "they" refer to the believers dead works which are
burned up at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

9. “Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that
which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue
in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that He hath promised us, even
eternal life.” (1 John 2:24-25).
If believers resist the lies of antichrists, and let the Bible truth that they had heard
from the beginning “abide” in them, they would continue to abide in unbroken
fellowship with God the Father and God the Son. “That” refers to Bible doctrine,
which, if it remains in us will keep us in unbroken, close fellowship with the Son and
the Father.
10. “What is meant by “overcometh”?
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that
overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.” (Revelation 2:11). See
Revelation 2:7,17,26; 3:5,12,21 where “overcometh” is used in a similar way.
Some feel that this verse means that a believer must do good works, or not do certain
sins in order to “overcome” or he will lose his salvation. “Overcomes” is explained in 1
John 5:4,5.
“For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that
overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he
that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?” “He that overcometh”, then, is
every born-again believer. These verses in Revelation 2 and 3 are really verses of
security, for the things promised to “overcomers” are for all believers.



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