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Antonin Scalia: SCOTUS Immigration logic "boggles the mind"

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posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Nucleardiver
 



Okay this is just a pet-peave of mine but the correct acronym for our Supreme Court is USSC, not SCOTUS.


I honestly don't care..I'll continue using SCOUTS because everyone knows what I'm talking about.


Okay, well I have no idea what you are talking about, so I guess I am not part of everyone.

Would that be Boy SCOUTS, Girl SCOUTS, sports SCOUTS, or maybe some Indian SCOUTS, maybe Marine Recon SCOUTS?

I am just really confused right now as to what SCOUTS have to do with the USSC ruling on immigration.




posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Oh cute...typos.

SCOTUS...better?



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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The problem is that the federal government has been overstepping its authority for so long, that the states are dependent on federal money to operate any more. The feds can throw their weight around because of this, unless..

Arizona secedes. Imagine the money AZ would have if none of its corporations had to pay federal income tax. AZ could collect half what the feds take and have enough money to enforce the law, pay for schools, and balance their budget. They aren't wasting money by the billions (trillions?) like the federal government is.



posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
 



Why doesn't the 2nd Amendment come into play? The States have a right to a "well-regulated" militia.


Yes...let's start killing people looking for work and a better life



My only solace is Karma.


Karma? Really? You believe in karma? Okay.
What kind of karma did the illegal immigrant have coming when shot?
And you'll take solace knowing karma met the illegals.


The implication of your statement, "My only solace is Karma," has me concerned.

You feel people who would, in defense of home, country and self, shoot an illegal should suffer karma's wrath. And you feel people who break the law, the illegals, are due no karmic repercussion when breaking laws.

Is it not a contradiction to say people who break laws should be tolerated and people who protect themselves should be prosecuted?


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posted on Jun, 27 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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You (and two people who agree with you) really believe that it would be just for a person to murder another human being because they crossed a border?


I'm starting to gain insight on the illegal immigration issue the more I read posts on this forum.

I know that illegal immigration is harmful to America. I know that a lot of people want a solution to the problem because they honestly care about the American workforce and want to see the conditions here improve.

Then I read a few posts like this one, and I started to realize that a lot of the immigration debate stems from the fact that people like you honestly believe illegal immigrants are somehow less than human. I don't want to call it racism, because I think it might go a bit deeper than that. I think it might be a vitriolic response to the media's coverage of the illegal immigration issue, or it might just be the phrase 'illegal immigrant'.

People like you believe that just because a person is here illegally, that they somehow forfeit their natural rights. In your instance, you believe they forfeit even the right to live!


I probably can't help you, abecedarian. But I really hope you will realize just how un-American what you just said is. I hope you will realize someday how much poison is in your words and thoughts.

This debate is no longer (and may have never been) about improving the American way of life. It is about persecuting a group of individuals, and nothing more.



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
 



Why doesn't the 2nd Amendment come into play? The States have a right to a "well-regulated" militia.


Yes...let's start killing people looking for work and a better life



My only solace is Karma.


So if I decide to become a bank robber in search of work and a better life it's all good? Since, you know, you don't think following the law matters as long as we are in search of a better life ...



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:11 AM
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I am really starting to love your patriotism. The right really loves this country. You all just seem to hate the president, hate the house of representatives, and believe the right leaning supreme court is wrong in its decisions. Add in how much you hate socialism like public roads, police and fire protection.
What exactly do you like about America?



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM
The problem is that the federal government has been overstepping its authority for so long, that the states are dependent on federal money to operate any more. The feds can throw their weight around because of this, unless..

Arizona secedes. Imagine the money AZ would have if none of its corporations had to pay federal income tax. AZ could collect half what the feds take and have enough money to enforce the law, pay for schools, and balance their budget. They aren't wasting money by the billions (trillions?) like the federal government is.


So someone is going to protect them? Give them free military? How is AZ going to fund a war against the US?



posted on Jun, 28 2012 @ 04:38 AM
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The really mind boggling part is scalia isn't even trying anymore.

Arizona tries to legislate federal immigration "whine whine! They are a souvereign state!"
Nevada tries to legislate state elections "What do you think you are? a souvereign state?"



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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I have had much contact with illegal aliens. I ran a nightclub for a while that catered to them. I can't see how they are human. How do 5ft tall people get a 10ft ceiling dirty? Why must they defecate in urinals? I put out 200 ashtrays and at the end of the night the only thing clean in the entire club would be the ashtrays. They cook food in galvanized zinc tubs. They do not understand that you FLUSH used toilet paper. Humans do not leave piles of used toilet paper all over bathrooms. There was a closet in the bathroom. It contained only a water heater. Somehow they would get into the locked closet and defecate ON THE WATER HEATER. It was 4ft high. They had to climb to get up on it.

Monkeys would have made less of a mess. When I had rappers come play at the club there may have been a few fights, but it never took a week to clean up after them. Even when we had 3 Six Mafia play our club and the riot started. It was not that hard to clean up.

That short period in my life did away with much of my anti black feelings. I came to appreciate them and welcomed their parties. But that was only because I had experienced the depth of depravity that all mexicans have. They are animals and do not belong with human beings. When the revolution starts they shall be deemed target practice while we join hands with out black brothers and eliminate the evil infesting our country.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Nucleardiver

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by UltimateSkeptic1
 

he's way too far Right bordering on Fascist.


Okay this is just a pet-peave of mine but the correct acronym for our Supreme Court is USSC, not SCOTUS. Try searching some case law on Lexisone or any other legal reference search engine and you will see it is USSC, as in USSC 410 U.S. 113 Roe v. Wade. It isnt even called the Supreme Court of the United States, it is the United States Supreme Court.

As far as your comment that Obama is so far Right that he is almost fascist, well that gave me a real laugh. Even members of his own party think he is too far to the left and too liberal. I really hope this was an attempt at humor, if not you really need to read up on the meaning of Left and Right and the history of the Democans and Republicrats starting with the Federalists and Antifederalists during the drafting of our constitution to understand what is left and what is right.


Haha, I think you should be checking your info because Obama has been reemed by his own people for being to far right of their leftists views. I honestly think he's been very middle of the road which is far to right for most people voting to the left.
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edit on 2-7-2012 by Procession101 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ookie
reply to post by drwizardphd
 


I have had much contact with illegal aliens. I ran a nightclub for a while that catered to them. I can't see how they are human. How do 5ft tall people get a 10ft ceiling dirty? Why must they defecate in urinals? I put out 200 ashtrays and at the end of the night the only thing clean in the entire club would be the ashtrays. They cook food in galvanized zinc tubs. They do not understand that you FLUSH used toilet paper. Humans do not leave piles of used toilet paper all over bathrooms. There was a closet in the bathroom. It contained only a water heater. Somehow they would get into the locked closet and defecate ON THE WATER HEATER. It was 4ft high. They had to climb to get up on it.

Monkeys would have made less of a mess. When I had rappers come play at the club there may have been a few fights, but it never took a week to clean up after them. Even when we had 3 Six Mafia play our club and the riot started. It was not that hard to clean up.

That short period in my life did away with much of my anti black feelings. I came to appreciate them and welcomed their parties. But that was only because I had experienced the depth of depravity that all mexicans have. They are animals and do not belong with human beings. When the revolution starts they shall be deemed target practice while we join hands with out black brothers and eliminate the evil infesting our country.


Your a piece of trash, I hope if there ever is a revolution your the first to get shot in the head and defecated on by a pack of angry Mexicans.




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