reply to post by Deetermined
Do we have every right to get mad at God? Absolutely. Do we have any right to make demands on him based on our own limited understanding of him? I
don't think so. However, like you said, anyone is free to reject him
No we don't have a right to get mad at YHWH, what people do not understand is that he works for the greater good. We only see the present or past but
he is looking far into the future. We only catch glimpses of the story, he is looking at the finished and published edition. They also do not
understand that the OT God is pre-incarnate Christ, before his human sojourn. He says it himself.
John 5: 31-47
31 “If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. 32 There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses
of Me is true. 33 You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. 34 Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things
that you may be saved. 35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing for a time to rejoice in his light. 36 But I have a greater
witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent
Me. 37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. 38 But you
do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have
eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
41 “I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. 43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you
do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek
the honor that comes from the only God? 45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you
trust. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you
believe My words?”
Moses wrote the Torah, the first 5 "books" of the hebrew bible. So, who walked with Adam in the cool of the Day? Who killed the animal and made
skins to clothe the "naked" progenitors? Who taught Adam how to pray and repent? Who showed Abraham what he and his descendants would inherit? Who
did Sarah laugh at when he told her she would have a son in her old age? Who talked with Abraham at his tent the day he sent the 2 angels to Sodom to
warn Lot? Who gave the decalogue to Moses at Mt. Sinai? Who put Moses in a cleft before he showed him his back and his Glory?
He is the same that came in man's flesh and was hanged on the cross, the light of the world, as he purchased Israel with the old covenant, so too
did he purchase us all with his blood in his new covenant. We could not see his face, so he gave us a face we could see.
7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can
you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not
speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe
Me for the sake of the works themselves.
16 And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus
Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
So if no one had ever seen the Father, only the Son which has declared him? Later on Jesus tells Thomas and Philip if they have seen him they have
seen the Father.
No one had seen the Father, they didn't know him until Jesus declared him. How did Jesus declare him? With his works.
John 8: 56-58
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”