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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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I've lurked these forums for sometime, But now finally have something that I deemed worthy and interesting enough
to actually make a post on. I'm hoping to get some new insight on it and actually am posting it just to expose it to criticism


I'm a perfectionist so If I don't 100% have some sort of proof to back it up, Then I wont believe it. I hate blind faith. So what I plan to share will have an explanation that makes sense based on my knowledge and understanding of it, But I'm also 19 years old and still have alot to learn and experience so I'm hoping for someone to make me honestly see otherwise because that's true growth.

Hope to either help others grow, or to grow myself.

That's why I've decided to stop lurking.




posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Hi. I am John Swan, and I try to make sense out of this conspiracy theories mess. Welcome to the club! (shake hands).



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Thanks for the welcome



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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I personally just love solving problems, Its something I was always good at


Which is what drew me to a conspiracy forum, Putting the puzzle of something and learning to understand what has a higher chance of being fake and what has a higher chance of being real and why.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Hello D Long and welcome to the pit! HA HA HA

no, really because when I think about ATS I think what my friend Steve once told me, "I just talikng and it is up tp you to believe me or not.

Steve is dead now.. he was electrocuted on the ground of the Hershey Medical center in Hershey, PA .... but it took a year or so for him to die...

Anyway, welcome and we welcome you expertise and knowledge... after all we are all looking for the truth. My mother is now a Southern Baptist who has blind faith and it is driving me crazy! So, I more than understand why blind faith buggs the living crap out of you.

Peace out,

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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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Exactly! I feel you, mate. I have a folder that has about 300 files involving anything from conspiracy theories to aliens reports and HAARP-like technologies. It is a bit hard to link it all together and see trough the lies because they try to make the lies sound as the truth. It's like trying to figure out Moriarty's next move.




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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Share one of your theories! I will either agree or have a reason to not agree and based on my knowledge and understanding of that knowledge might shed new light


Give me your best shot, and I'll tell you one of mine.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Hm.
I think for instance that there is two Illuminati currently warring with each other, and that one of these two will attempt to control the world by the end of 2049, eliminating death at the same time. The other Illuminati would be the Majestic, with has alot of technologies, owns the NAVY, and also owns the NAVY Space Command. This the reason why we see "UFO" around Earth or 'bases" on Mars or on the Moon.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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Did I awstruck you?

BTW if I suddenly pop out and go offline don't be alarmed, it's just that I have limited access to Internet.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Hmm yeah, The Illuminati conspiracy stems from the possibility of corruption, Those who believe in the Illuminati believe that the corruption is to a high extent and that its deemed probable. I know for a fact corruption exists, but I honestly havn't learned enough about it to accurately determine what the percentage of that corruption is. Its not 100% not yet, but its not 0% no of course not.

So why do you have that theory about it? What made you come up with that.
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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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It is very long to explain. Alot of details, from different sources which I consider credible. I can't explain the thinking process... It took 10 years to come to that conclusion...
Dan Burish says that Majestic has the Looking Glass, and that the Illuminati wants it. thus, we can deduce that the Illuminati is not Majestic. The fact that both have this conflict with each other is very revealing. It would mean that Majestic owned HAARP, and not the Illuminati, unlike what I previously thought. If Majestic owns the Navy (It's the Navy that dig up sumerian instruction about building the Looking Glass while the war against Iraq), then the Illuminati doesn't own the Navy Space Command. The Illuminati owns banks, though. So who fund disinformation through the newspapers? I believe the the Illuminati owns the newspaper but that Majestic tries to destroy the Illuminati's reputation by planting strategic ideas.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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I'll share one of my thoughts, I think I understand why drugs exist.

I feel like everything has a purpose, And our ability/potential to identify that purpose, Is what determines wether it seems meaningless or not. Obviously some things are easier to understand than others, but anyone is capable of doing so, I think the idea of true meaninglessness is just an illusion that lack of knowledge or understanding of that knowledge makes.

I think I understand the purpose of drugs, Having experienced drug addiction and understanding what I did helped me truly conquer it, rehab is a joke it puts a bandaid on the addiction, doesn't remove the desire to do them just gives them enough willpower to overide the desire, but doesnt remove it and thats why some people relapse is when the desire overides their willpower. Using the ying and yang principle, The ying are the people who have the willpower to permanently resist the desire to use drugs, The yang are those who don't have the willpower to permanently resist drugs. The lose of desire completely is the true cure.

I think that everyone is high, we're all constantly high and that it doesn't matter wether we took a chemical or not. I simplified drugs till I couldn't get any simpler, Drugs simply explained, are concentrated emotions. Each drug represents a different emotion and feeling. And our personalities determine which one we develop a problem for, Every drug user has a drug of choice, and who they are determines what drug is their favorite. Its why some people can do drugs purely recreationally and for pure pleasure and why some people develop a problem for the drug. I think that drugs exist to represent personal flaws that we have to overcome, Their purpose is to not be the solution to the problem but to let us know that the solution does indeed exist and it is possible. Its just up to the person to recognize that and break free from the drug. I can honestly say that my drug use has helped me grow as a person, It gave me hope and knowing that the relief from the pain I was escaping from, was possible. I feel like thats the reason why they even exist.

Identifying that was my personal cure to 100% beating my drug addiction, It honestly worked for me and I think it makes sense.

Cause potheads, The people who tend to smoke marijuana everyday, smoke it for a reason. Pot mainly represent s sloth/relaxation and alot of the people who smoke it everyday are very prone to stress. Most people I know who smoke pot smoke it to relax and chill, Well I guarantee that they've relaxed at some point in their lives, before smoking it. MDMA represents love, happiness, and acceptance/belonging and the e-tards the people who develop a problem for MDMA tend to have lived lonely lives, They tend to be the people who never really felt like they belonged or fit in. or hadn't felt love in so long they forgot it existed.

Identifying and understanding that stuff helped me do what rehab failed to do, Helped me lose the desire completely to use drugs
I feel as if the mainstream perception of drugs if wrong, And that we misunderstand why some people become addicted and others don't and that misunderstanding of why is why currently mainstream rehabilitation is just a bandage on the wound.

Does that make sense? It did for me, I wouldn't be sober if it didn't.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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I never used drugs (I mean it: never!) but I believe your explication about the link between drugs and emotions is very logical. I find nothing to disprove it.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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Think that makes enough sense to be worth making a thread about? xD

If it has the potential to help 1 person understand their addiction better than its worth it, But the more sense something makes the greater the chance of it influencing more people. But if its poppycock then please do tell me xD



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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very interesting and I agree somewhat but I'll warn you that here on ATS the mods will frown on drug threads unless tied directly into another major incident...

you can get banned for talikng about personal use
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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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I'm going to apply the basic law of ying and yang to explain why some people do drugs, and others don't.

Ying are the people who never will touch a drug, But they will suffer the curiosity of doing so.

Yang are the people who develop an addiction and are stuck in it.

The balance are those who can use drugs without becoming addicted and those who have done drugs but choose not to anymore.They don't suffer from curiosity and don't suffer addiction cause they dont have the desire to do drugs or understood what I explained already so they never used them to fix their issues.

I think that many already know this, they just didn't have the words for it



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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I'm not condoning personal use of drugs at all, And don't think I gave a direct example of my own personal use.

Never will I condone drugs, But I was just trying to explain them in a way that's easily understood by people and don't need to go to school for to understand the message im conveying.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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Obviously its a ton more complex than how I explained it, But I feel like I gave the basic outline of addiction. Basic enough that you don't need psychology classes to understand. The reason I chose this topic is because it helped me, If it helps somebody else, even one person understand it better and hopefully help them kick their drug habit than isn't it worth it? I wouldn't have chosen this topic if It didn't have a purpose.
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If its worth making a thread about then I'll clarify more on that xD I absolutely don't condone drug use and never ever will suggest someone use them, because curiosity can kill the cat, and nothing would make me feel worse than to be the cause of someones drug addiction. Not worth the chance of that happening, Ever.

But I can see how since I didnt clarify that, It could imply that doing drugs is okay, because its not. They're illegal for a reason, And Im just attempting to explain what that reason is, and help someone understand better the source of their addiction so its easier to break free from it

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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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addiction can be to many things not just drugs..... once a probation officer told me about his father-in-law who was addicted to collecting vinyl albums... doesn't sound bad ......

but he spent every dime on them, cost him his marriage, kids and eventually his house......

I was just tossing out a warning.. I didn't see anything wrong with your post but it always in the eye of the reader!



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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Oh for sure! But addiction, wether for drugs or not comes from something.

I had just chosen drugs because that was an addiction I conquered personally, I wouldn't even have thought of this if I hadn't gone through it, and it would be weird explaning addiction to candy bars and the meaning of it when I never experienced it :x



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