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MV Alaed Re-Flagged and now under escort to Syria

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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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(Mods i hope this is in the right forumor should it be in the ww3 forum?, if this story has been covered already sorry and pls delete)


This SHIP was stopped off the British coast carrying Attack helicopters for Syria is now Re-Flagged (under Russia) and attempting a second trip under escort to Syria carrying is cargo.

The ship was Originally was turned round with its cargo and disappeared back to Russia. ATS Thread covering first stop

Now its heading back to Syria under the Russian flag still with its cargo i cant help but think this is going to be used as one of the many growing catalysts in the coming 'war' . ...i think any attempts to stop it now could possibly result in some deliberate retaliation from Russia.




Throwing down an unmistakable challenge to the Prime Minister, Moscow said the Alaed would sail again, this time under a Russian flag - meaning that any attempt to board it could trigger an international incident. It will also be accompanied by at least one other vessel, although not a military one.



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What are your thoughts on this, is it a deliberate 'come get some' by the Russians.? If it does get stopped and boarded or sank Will this be the big catalyst to world war because of the initial media attention it has got?


hope not

Duke




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posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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I'm glad the Russian government took responsibility for this ship, since I'm totally against sanctions being imposed upon Syria.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Russia claims to have only repaired existing Syrian owned helicopters and is trying to return them....Keeping in mind (from the reported link) there is no UN arms embargo on Syria.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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The boys at the top of the pyramid have a flare for theater.

All fake.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Its being escorted by a Russian military vessel, so i doubt anyone is gona try stop it.



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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Interestingly there are 2 straits between them.. both of which have EU territory on both sides (unlike Iran that only borders one side of Hormuz) thus both straits have EU territorial waters running one side to the other.. and unless Russia wants to go the really long way around then these ships will have to pass one or both straits.

I have been wondering if the EU where to try and fin a legal reason to stop these ships passing through either strait whether that then gives Iran legal reasons to stop ships passing through Hormuz.. an interesting conundrum.

but personally I think there won't be another attempt to impede the journey of these ships as this was all about delaying the delivery only while the events we see unfolding carry on unfolding,



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
Interestingly there are 2 straits between them.. both of which have EU territory on both sides (unlike Iran that only borders one side of Hormuz) thus both straits have EU territorial waters running one side to the other.. and unless Russia wants to go the really long way around then these ships will have to pass one or both straits.

I have been wondering if the EU where to try and fin a legal reason to stop these ships passing through either strait whether that then gives Iran legal reasons to stop ships passing through Hormuz.. an interesting conundrum.

but personally I think there won't be another attempt to impede the journey of these ships as this was all about delaying the delivery only while the events we see unfolding carry on unfolding,


Very True i was looking at what direction it might take with this the ships have got some journey ahead of them..what leads me to believe its not gonna go so smoothly

Duke


(Ship was last sighted at Murmansk)


edit on 25-6-2012 by DukeEligos because: edit ships last position



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:29 AM
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I would assume they would go the long way around Britain rather than pass through the safer Dover strait.. that'll add a considerable amount of time to the Journey, however they then come to the next problem, the Strait of Gibraltar which would be ok except Spain has territory on the North African side in the form of Ceuta meaning their territorial waters go from one side to the other.

I think that was the first ploy, remove the insurance meant the ships would not gain permission to pass legally through either strait?? perhaps citing the collision at sea laws?? although I am not hot on this topic, those two straits would be the only areas I see these ships as being vulnerable to the legal process, and I beleive they'll stick within the legal process to ensure they do not provoke Russia to much.

But I honestly think forcing the Russians to go the long way around Britain will cause enough of a delay to ensure whatever it is they are planning with Syria to fall into place..



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:46 AM
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strangely enough as i was checking the marine traffic site and I've noticed the ships been off radar for three days now......hmmm wonder where it'll pop up



posted on Jun, 25 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Going by the miss-adventures of the MV Artic Sea I would assume they could pop up anywhere... especially given that it seems (if I remmeber correctly) the AIS beacon on the MV Arctic Sea went one direction around the Bay of Biscay while the ship went another..

Far too many games are being played for me to feel sure of my footing on any of this stuff...



posted on Jun, 26 2012 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by auraelium
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Its being escorted by a Russian military vessel, so i doubt anyone is gona try stop it.


Even the Russians don't want to make a mountain out of a mole hill. A Russian Navy military escort is overkill. The vessel that is reported to accompany the MV Alaed is to be civilian. The flag alone (Re-flagged to Russian) on the MV Alaed is enough to guarantee its passage. If it was to seek shelter in territorial waters or divert to a port then the helicopters could be impounded.


The interviewee stressed that Alaed would be escorted not by a warship or supply vessel subordinated to Russian Navy "in order to avoid undesirable involvement of Russian Navy in this complex and ambiguous issue; the cargo ship will be accompanied with a civil vessel".


rusnavy.com...
edit on 26-6-2012 by tommyjo because: external text tags inserted



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