Israel vows action if truce fails, page 1

Israel vows action if truce fails

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"Regarding the situation in the south, the Israeli army acted forcefully against those who try to attack us and, if necessary, the army will act more forcefully still," Mr Netanyahu warned at the start of a cabinet meeting.

"Our policy is to use force to restore security and calm to the residents of the south," he added.

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So now Israel, through Netanyahu have confirmed their massive attack on Gaza, naming it a forceful one. And their warning now? An even more forceful attack if the truce fails.

Many bombs were dropped into Israel, with no one being killed. Israel uses this as an excuse to forcefully attack the people of Gaza through war planes and state of the art missiles(who for the majority, do nothing wrong), killing the them.

Why doesn't Israel just give some of their land back and knock down the prison wall they have built? That way, there would be at least a more mutual relationship. Hey, i'd be pissed too if i had my houses bulldozed down, and being forced to live in poor conditions surrounded by a giant wall.

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Originally posted by daaskapital

Why doesn't Israel just give some of their land back and knock down the prison wall they have built? That way, there would be at least a more mutual relationship. Hey, i'd be pissed too if i had my houses bulldozed down, and being forced to live in poor conditions surrounded by a giant wall.

At one time Israel offered exactly that, the Palestinian leadership refused.

2000 Camp David Summit

Can you guess which one is Israel?
But picture the kid with billions of dollars, Airforce, guns, and nuclear weapons.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot

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The closest to an agreement that came to reality was Yitzhak's.

This led to the tripartite Arafat, Peres, Rabin Nobel Peace.

Arafat and Peres could well have had hidden secrets and wished to breach the agreement. It was Yitzhak that was the key middle ground mediator.

But in the end, he was murdered by one of his own people, a Zionist Jew. Yitzhak was Zionist.

Staunch Israel supporters point to Arafat's prize but ignore the other 2. While the other side point to Peres' prize and ignore the other 2.

The complementary happened too, with Egypt/Sadat. Murdered by one of his own.

All those recent "faux negotiations" are filled with obstacles and saboteurs. Pointing to them only descend into back and forths.

What a pity.

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by daaskapital

Why doesn't Israel just give some of their land back and knock down the prison wall they have built? That way, there would be at least a more mutual relationship. Hey, i'd be pissed too if i had my houses bulldozed down, and being forced to live in poor conditions surrounded by a giant wall.

At one time Israel offered exactly that, the Palestinian leadership refused.

2000 Camp David Summit

You cant bring truth and logic into an anti-Israel rant thread.

Here is what wass really said, if you keep attacking us we will respond, and we will respond ever more forcefully until you stop attacking us.

reply to post by Xaphan

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I'm still waiting for the truth part, when does it begin? do I have time for a bathroom break?

reply to post by OccamsRazor04

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Except that it is distorted truth and pre-defined logic.

To see what real peace plan talks can do, see what happened to Yitzhak Rabin. All those following his death had obstacles and sabotage embedded.

Any realist and middle ground person can see that 2000 round of talks were set up to fail beforehand. Was just political spectacle.

Obama tried to raise and supported 1967 border lines in a long speech broadcast May last year, Israel refused.

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Netanyahu's rejection of Obama's 1967 border deal leaves peace talks in tatters

Palestinians describe fresh talks as pointless following Israel's dismissal of Barack Obama's call for a return to prewar frontier

Peter Beaumont
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 21 May 2011 18.57 BST

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/21/netanyahu-rejects-obama-1967-borders

Originally posted by niepcco
reply to post by OccamsRazor04

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Except that it is distorted truth and pre-defined logic.

To see what real peace plan talks can do, see what happened to Yitzhak Rabin. All those following his death had obstacles and sabotage embedded.

Any realist and middle ground person can see that 2000 round of talks were set up to fail beforehand. Was just political spectacle.

Obama tried to raise and supported 1967 border lines in a long speech broadcast May last year, Israel refused.

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Netanyahu's rejection of Obama's 1967 border deal leaves peace talks in tatters

Palestinians describe fresh talks as pointless following Israel's dismissal of Barack Obama's call for a return to prewar frontier

Peter Beaumont
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 21 May 2011 18.57 BST

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/21/netanyahu-rejects-obama-1967-borders

Why should they go to 1967 borders? Would Obama be willing to go to 1776 borders? That was a slap in the face to Israel.

Imagine how humiliating it would be, getting your ass kicked by some hot chicks.

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If you think girls in the IDF are saints, better think twice... they aren't.

Originally posted by niepcco
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If you think girls in the IDF are saints, better think twice... they aren't.

Hot chicks that are bad girls, sounds like a good time to me.

reply to post by OccamsRazor04

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There are many things within Israel-Palestine conflict that are extremely complex.

One of the most telling of them is the Israeli capital controversy.

Even the US and UK avoid often the issue, because it's central focus of 2 state plan.

Embassies and capital status are in Tel Aviv, and both countries, despite being allied with Israel, are uncomfortable with Jerusalem as capital.

Unless the plan changes to Israeli absorption of Palestinians as citizens of Israel will full rights, this can drag for years...

Originally posted by niepcco
reply to post by OccamsRazor04

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There are many things within Israel-Palestine conflict that are extremely complex.

One of the most telling of them is the Israeli capital controversy.

Even the US and UK avoid often the issue, because it's central focus of 2 state plan.

Embassies and capital status are in Tel Aviv, and both countries, despite being allied with Israel, are uncomfortable with Jerusalem as capital.

Unless the plan changes to Israeli absorption of Palestinians as citizens of Israel will full rights, this can drag for years...

Perhaps if Palestinians sought that rather than violence this would already be resolved. No one wants the Palestinians, and the embassy issue is simply politics. Is this a complex situation? Yes, I fully agree. Should Israel say if violence is done to them they will respond, yes, I fully agree. My hope is for peace, those in charge of the Palestinians do not want this.

Do you have outrage for the land stolen from Jews by other arab nations? Should they be compensated?

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