reply to post by Saurus
Our God doesn't have different manifestations. Yeshua told the pharisees who he is and they didn't believe him either. People think of the "Son" in
human terms and that is what makes it seem polytheistic and that is why the majority of jews rejected Yeshua when he came. They coudn't see YHWH
standing in front of them in his glory because they were spiritually blinded.
Just like how i tell people that Yeshua is YHWH and they don't believe me either, but i'm just telling them what Christ said, they can't hear his
song. He allowed me to have revelation and only those who he gave it to know what i am talking about. I'll give you an example.
John 5: 31-47
31 “If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. 32 There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses
of Me is true. 33 You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. 34 Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things
that you may be saved. 35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing for a time to rejoice in his light. 36 But I have a greater
witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent
Me. 37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have
eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
Yeshua was speaking to the pharisees, telling them that neither they (or their forefathers) have never heard the Father's voice nor seen him (this
includes Moses), that the scriptures are written about him. That it was him as the burning bush speaking to Moses, it was him on Mt. Sinai who gave
Moses the law, it was he who picked Moses up and set him in a cliff and allowed him to see his back which made Moses' face glow with light seeing
Yeshua's Glory. It was Yeshua speaking with Abraham the day he came to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and it was he who sent the 2 angels to warn
Abraham's nephew Lot. It was Yeshua who created the universe and who made Adam and who walked with Adam in the cool of the day and taught Adam and Eve
how to pray after they fell, and how to repent.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
So Yeshua is the Lord, they know this much (or so they say) but they don't follow through with it. What is the Lord's Day? The Sabbath (Rest) is. Who
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 And
when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!”
3 But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4 how he entered the house of God and
ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law
that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless? 6 Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater
than the temple. 7 But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the
guiltless. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
Here Yeshua is saying he has power over the Rest. He desires mercy over sacrifice, here he is saying that moral laws are greater than ceremonial
7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me[a] are thieves and
robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The
thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the
sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a
hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so
I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will
hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I
have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”
In John 10 he is saying that he is the Good Shepherd and that the sheep belong to him, that he is not some hireling, but the owner of the
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