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Masonry, the ultimate lie (keep the discourse civil please)

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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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reply to post by dsldsl2014
 

You realize that in that same speech JFK said there is need for more secrecy, right?




posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by dsldsl2014
 

You realize that in that same speech JFK said there is need for more secrecy, right?


Nope i didn't realize that.

A popular method for hiding things within the occult world, has
been boxes within boxes. A Masonic organization will have a rite,
within a secret rite, with a secret group, with an insider clique.

A lot of peope at high levels instinctively use disinfo to hide and cover the truth.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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and apparently a lot of people have no earthly idea how the structure of masonry is and they invent all kinds of ways to scare themselves.

JFK's speech was calling for more secrecy from the press. JFK was a member of a secret society that is very much like masonry. Sadly, people will continue to mis-quote him along with Pike to vilify that which they do not understand.

I guess it's easier than actually doing the research.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Care to mention which secret society?



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
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Care to mention which secret society?


I sure would. He was a member of the Knights of Columbus. It's a catholic secret society that operates much like masonry.
edit to add link:
here is a link for those who wish to know more.
edit on 17-7-2012 by network dude because: added information



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
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Care to mention which secret society?


I sure would. He was a member of the Knights of Columbus. It's a catholic secret society that operates much like masonry.
edit to add link:
here is a link for those who wish to know more.
edit on 17-7-2012 by network dude because: added information


Thank you NetworkDude.

Always appreciate when information is disseminated.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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"I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy."
- JFK

There is no secret cabal in Freemasonry, and if there was it would truly be powerless as the movement of money, the approval of big decisions, and most power in general lies in the voting members of each body/order of Masonry. Freemasonry is far too decentralized and with far too many variables to have some kind of secret puppet master pulling our strings without approval.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by dsldsl2014
 


and apparently a lot of people have no earthly idea how the structure of masonry is and they invent all kinds of ways to scare themselves.

JFK's speech was calling for more secrecy from the press. JFK was a member of a secret society that is very much like masonry. Sadly, people will continue to mis-quote him along with Pike to vilify that which they do not understand.

I guess it's easier than actually doing the research.


I couldn't care less about JFK, presidents, royalty,politicians or any of the useless nonsense you people are most likely fixated on, i see right through it, if you can't and prefer to look up to these people as "heros" or "role models" go right ahead, i never said ignorant wasn't bliss.

I was quoting the "information" JFK doesnt own that info, i could care less if he was asking for more secrecy, what i WAS doing, was quoting THAT SPECIFIC piece of info, i would still bring it up if Hitler said it, i would still bring it up if charles manson said it, mickey mouse, donald duck, the guy down the street etc.

Don't be fixated on superficial things like who says what which is what you're doing you're bringing in semantics and side stepping the focus point by mentioning "his full speech was calling for more secrecy" (says a lot about your great leader :/ you being you obviously take things for face value so i dont expect you to understand that), you really need to learn to not take things for face value, try going beyond that, its the small part of his message i was trying to bring up not his speech, his life or anything, stop being immature and side stepping it.
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by dsldsl2014
stop being immature and side stepping it.


won't happen again with you.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by dsldsl2014
 

"I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy."
- JFK

There is no secret cabal in Freemasonry, and if there was it would truly be powerless as the movement of money, the approval of big decisions, and most power in general lies in the voting members of each body/order of Masonry. Freemasonry is far too decentralized and with far too many variables to have some kind of secret puppet master pulling our strings without approval.


I dont like JFK, i wasn't quoting him because i "like" him or regard him as a good person, i quoted it because it's true, next time ill come up with something myself, since taking things for face value is completely normal here.

There is no secret cabal in Freemasonry................ughhh alright then.
But if you dont mind me asking, are you seriously closed of to believing theres nothing more to something so esoteric as freemasonry?
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Few if any masons will argue the details unless you demonstrate a working knowledge of the many facets of masonry itself.

Are you even aware of the hierarchy through which masonry operates?

I am speaking of the ladder which they climb. From Scottish and York rites on to Templars and Shiners and so on . . .

Think of it as a regimented network which one must know the ins and outs and symbols by which they operate.

Not to denigrate your argument but you are quite abstract in your discourse which does not ask questions in a manner in which you could procure the answers you seek.

Why not peruse all the info they themselves have posted to the net and begin there. Think of it as research for preparing a rough draft of inquires.

Who knows you may find many of the answers you seek or possibly see the entire subject light. At the very least you will find yourself in possession of a repertoire of information to sound like a proper intellectual at the dinner parties.

Perspective and angles you know.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by dsldsl2014
I dont like JFK, i wasn't quoting him because i "like" him or regard him as a good person, i quoted it because it's true...


The 'true' part is that he was calling for more secrecy throughout his The President and the Press speech, not less. To posit anything else is willfull ignorance on your part as you are purposefully taking Kennedy out of context, and in this speech context is everything.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Can someone on this page please help me? Im kinda curious as to what my family of free masons has been up to.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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We sure can but you should also ask your family about it, I am sure they would be happy to answer whatever questions you have!



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by JakeWatkin
Can someone on this page please help me? Im kinda curious as to what my family of free masons has been up to.


Baby-eating, devil worshipping, world domineering, knowledge-hiding, goat-riding, population reducing, charity work.

But that's only the stuff the public knows about. The really secret stuff isn't out there yet.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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but me and my familly have been members for years and none of this stuff has ever come up so i think its lies tbh, my famillies masons friends are really nice and i help them do charity stuff, i doubt they are that bad.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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They are lies, getready is pulling your leg about everything except the charity.

Did you ever get involved with the DeMolay?



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Oh, I know, I know. I've been a Mason for 6 years, and Past Master of my Lodge, and I attended an Entered Apprentice degree just a couple of nights ago, and had the Grand Master's dinner just last weekend, but according to folks on ATS, I'm just not high enough yet. The good baby recipes and secret dominion codes don't come until the 34th through 99th degrees apparently.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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My grandad is a 34th degree and my uncle colin is a 33rd degree but they are really nice men! kinda feel pissed off when people mock people like my familly who help so many people, theres no evidence apart from internet babble, im only 18 so i cant say im an expert on anything but im sure i know my familly,



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Freemason has a secret that besets itself upon the highest order of Fools...
Do not linger in this idea too long... for save it, there is no evil about them.
To Freemason there is the privilege of his woman. Their union brings about "A Daughter."
When this is done... there exist the reality which invokes all their powers. The Well Being Of The Daughter!
If wherever you meet a woman... and she confesses that her father is a Freemason... know too that you are well on your to becoming their greatest ally. Love her. She will bring you HOME!
Welcome To The United States Of America!

I Am Pinocchio!
There is no thing mysterious in this world about a Freemason save the man who attempts to steal his daughter away. A.K.A. Free My Sons!




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