Masonry, the ultimate lie (keep the discourse civil please)

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posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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I recently found an extremely interesting article about freemasonry.




33-degree Jim Shaw walked away from Freemasonry one day, after participating in a a Masonic Maundy Thursday 'black communion' ceremony in his Scottish Rites Temple in Florida. Participants of this ceremony are required to refer to Jesus as an "apostle of mankind who was neither inspired or divine". They then proceed to mock Jesus further by enacting a strange "black communion" ceremony. Pages 105-107


full article, with many others

This article even covers the fact that John Quincy Adams, who was President of the United States of America, staunchy opposed freemasonry as so many do to this day. He even formed the "anti-masonic party".


"Freemasonry is deceptive and fraudulent...Its promise is light—its performance is darkness." -President John Quincy Adams

"Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong—essentially wrong—a seed of evil, which can never produce any good." -President John Quincy Adams

Masonry's Use of the Bible in their little Satanic clubhouses: Adams warned that the Lodge’s use of the Bible should, to a trained Christian, raise red flags. “If the candidate has been educated to a sincere and heart-felt reverence for religion and the Bible, and if he exercises his reason, he knows that all the tales of Jachin and Boaz, of Solomon’s Temple, of Hiram Abiff and Jubela, Jubelo and Jubeluem, are impostures–poisons poured into the perennial fountain of truth–traditions exactly resembling those reprobated by Jesus Christ, as making the word of God on none effect.”


William Cooper warned that a mason will lie about any and everything just to keep up the facade of the benevolent charitable organization. That is why I personally feel freemasonry is the ultimate lie, because it slowly tricks otherwise good men into worshiping satan, or lucifer, or baal, or whatever word you want to use.

I think people should be more vocal in their communities in trying to get the word out. Write your local news every day to cover the story of the Jesters and sex trafficking.

Or ask them to cover this recent news story

A week after joining Prince Hall masonry in Harlem, New York, an actor from the TV series Ugly Betty killed his own mother with a masonic sword because he said she had a demon inside of her. To any sane individual, the person who had the demon put inside of him was the murderer. He even talks in an interview about how a mason "cursed" him at the lodge.

I weep for these horrendous crimes and wish for nothing but love and harmony in the world. I strongly encourage everyone to read the links I have provided and to try to educate those around you about the dangers of occultism.




posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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The Jesters dont traffic anything.

There is a whole thread dedicated to it already, why this one?

The recent news story you linked is 2 years old, and there is about ten threads about it in the archives. I wont bother linking any threads because you wont read them any way. The bottom line is that actor was a psychopath and a skytzo.





Another weak thread using old information to roust the christian vs. freemason theme of the day.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:01 PM
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this is just silly.. I personally like to base my opinions on facts. None of which are presented in this article..

I am a Christian and have also been a part of a masonic lodge.

One of the only requirements for joining is a belief in divine creator.
also,
Politics and Religion and not allowed to be discussed in the lodge.

If you really get deep into the rabbit hole you will see that Christianity arose from Egypt. And that the Egyptians inherited the Sphinx (didn't build it)



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Hitler kicked them out of Germany.

Hitler thought they were evil.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
Hitler kicked them out of Germany.

Hitler thought they were evil.


Yeah, well, Hitler wasnt known for being a great judge of character. He also slaughtered over six million innocent children, men and women, so, yeah.
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posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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Hitler saw them as a threat and he didnt kick them out...he killed them.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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I think people should be more vocal in their communities in trying to get the word out. Write your local news every day to cover the story of the Jesters and sex trafficking.


I would but they are so insignificant already. IMO Masons are legends in their own minds…nothing more.

I don’t begrudge them the right to assemble, haze each other and pretend they are enlightened.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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If you really get deep into the rabbit hole you will see that Christianity arose from Egypt. And that the Egyptians inherited the Sphinx (didn't build it)


What do you mean they inherited it? From whom?



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Doesnt it strike you as odd?

Noramal masons would not know what happens at the top. Christians do not know Vatican secrets.

There is no need to take criticism or suspicion personal.

The average mason is not what people are talking about when they say masons are evil.

Why would so many people through hitory have a problem with masons if they were such swell fellas?

It is more than odd.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Because we question the act of tyrants, and have this habbit of being a thorn in the side of the ignorant. Through out history masons have been saught out, persecuted, killed, and in some areas of the globe even today it still happens.

What really strikes me as odd, is how so many people who claim to have an open mind, can be so closed minded in regards to Freemasonry. Apparently thats the one subject that every single non mason on ATS knows more about then the actual members of the Fraternity!

Where is the logic in that? There is none.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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You guys only question the acts of tyrants who oppose your own tyrannical point of view. There's a reason why the Grand Lodge of Texas claimed jurisdiction over the moon.

There is little difference between the 3rd reich and what the mystery schools have sought for centuries and centuries.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove
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You guys only question the acts of tyrants who oppose your own tyrannical point of view. There's a reason why the Grand Lodge of Texas claimed jurisdiction over the moon.

There is little difference between the 3rd reich and what the mystery schools have sought for centuries and centuries.


To compare masonry to the 3rd Reich is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard. Studying Esotericism makes a person a Nazi, now? Thats a bit of a stretch, even for you, protocols.

Actually, we only claimed the Sea of Tranquility. And it was mainly for fun, and bragging rights. Look! I can truthfully say my fraternnity has a lodge on the Moon. Nifty.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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yes,

Goal of the nazis: one world socialist dictatorship based on esoteric doctrine written by european occultists. A war state that is driven by propaganda, fear and symbolism

Goal of the masons: new world order, one world socialist dictatorship where jerusalem is to be the world's capitol. The masons in government often promote eugenics, big pharma, centralized banking and war mongering.

The parallels are countless



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove
33-degree Jim Shaw walked away from Freemasonry one day...


Jim Shaw? Really? The guy is a proven liar and hoaxer. The list of 33rds is published each year and is in the public domain, see if you can spot his name anywhere on it.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove
Goal of the masons: new world order, one world socialist dictatorship...


Sorry, I am a free-market capitalist and Jeffersonian democrat. The smaller the government the better.



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Sorry, I am a free-market capitalist and Jeffersonian democrat. The smaller the government the better.


That’s not surprising…Lower level schmucks at the bottom of the masonic food chain aren’t ‘in the know’ if you know what I mean!

You’re either being purposely deceitful or you really DON’T know the truth about the group you claim to be part of; neither would surprise me. My two buddies who are masons are definitely not ‘in the know’ and one is a 32nd degree (the guy barely makes ends meet – so much for the brotherhood).


***Edit to add – I agree with your sentiments about free market capitalism and smaller government.
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posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
Hitler kicked them out of Germany.

Hitler thought they were evil.


And Hitler was a good judge of clean Christian living?

Methinks your judgement of heroes is a tad skewed

Fitz



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove
reply to post by W3RLIED2
 


You guys only question the acts of tyrants who oppose your own tyrannical point of view. There's a reason why the Grand Lodge of Texas claimed jurisdiction over the moon.

There is little difference between the 3rd reich and what the mystery schools have sought for centuries and centuries.



Originally posted by seabag
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Sorry, I am a free-market capitalist and Jeffersonian democrat. The smaller the government the better.


That’s not surprising…Lower level schmucks at the bottom of the masonic food chain aren’t ‘in the know’ if you know what I mean!

You’re either being purposely deceitful or you really DON’T know the truth about the group you claim to be part of; neither would surprise me. My two buddies who are masons are definitely not ‘in the know’ and one is a 32nd degree (the guy barely makes ends meet – so much for the brotherhood).


***Edit to add – I agree with your sentiments about free market capitalism and smaller government.



Mods, I'd ask that this thread be closed and locked insomuch as the OP started the thread in an insulting manner and can't follow his own requests

TIA

Fitz



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
That’s not surprising…Lower level schmucks at the bottom of the masonic food chain aren’t ‘in the know’ if you know what I mean!


What is the top of the food chain and how is it that you know and I somehow do not?



posted on Jun, 24 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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reply to post by protocolsoflove
 

Jim Shaw was never a 33rd.

It's ironic that such a staunch anti-Mason would hate Freemasons when our 1st President was one and several of our Founding Fathers were Freemasons.

William Cooper also fabricated a lot of things.

The Jesters thing has its own thread. Again, if such a small, miniscule amount is allowed to represent the rest of us (or that we are to be accountable for them) then non-Masons have to account for a lot of crimes that other non-Masons have done.

reply to post by Germanicus
 

So you agree with Hitler?

reply to post by protocolsoflove
 

So you're trying to compare the Freemasons and the Nazis? Really?

reply to post by seabag
 

I'm a 32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason myself. So what? Membership in the Scottish Rite doesn't constitute "high level". I'm a Past and current presiding officer in several bodies. I'm also in committees at various levels.





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