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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:10 AM
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"By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1 John 4:6-8

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 02:02 AM
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The Creator's name is definitely not "Lord." Lord would be one His titles, but it is not His name. Do you know whose name translates as "Lord"? Ba'al. Be careful whom you are calling upon.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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geepers I think you need to walk outside more and have less time online,
I think this has been posted in the wrong forum.
I vote batman as the all seeing creator



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by pillock
geepers I think you need to walk outside more and have less time online,
I think this has been posted in the wrong forum.
I vote batman as the all seeing creator


I don't see how it is posted in the wrong forum...it is the end goal of the Luciferian NWO. The human agents are mostly unwitting participants putting the control grid together. The actual goal of their supernatural master though has always been the same, receive false worship from people on a world-wide scale and prevent as many people from going to heaven as possible. The final saga is rapt up in people legally ruling themselves out of Heaven through forced (from fear) or ignorant disregard to what God asks of His followers.

Perhaps people reading on the NWO section don't want to be confronted with all this religion stuff but unfortunately for you that is what it all turns out to be about. Satan wanting the destruction of as many souls as possible to go down with him. Anyone doing research into the religious beliefs of the human agents of the NWO soon find out they are basically all Satanic or Luciferian in orientation and have massive links to the Catholic Church (usually through Jesuit controlled secret societies).

The truth is confronting and when it is found out it requires decisions by people. Perhaps the topic is too confronting for you and you'll wish to ignore it but this difficult battle to make the right decision (the symbolic 'battle of Armeggedon') is what is going to confront us all pretty soon. It is my job to give you the warning of what it means no matter what religion you are from, it is the readers responsibility to then make a decision one way or another.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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thanks for the answer.



he describes the masculine aspect ('lord of heaven'/Apollo) as being represented by the sun. The supreme feminine goddess in pagan religion is almost always associated with the moon.

what do you think is the gender of god ? or is god genderless ?



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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Here is an excellent interview from the best NWO researcher in the business, Eric Jon Phelps. It is an interview I read about 18 months ago and was just reminded again of it today. If you want to be 'elite' in 'denying ignorance' and get to the bottom of the rabbit hole then a staple diet of this guy will see you through


Here is the opening couple of paragraphs...click the link for part 1 and after you finish that page go to Part 2


So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on the 'conspiracy' playing field? You've maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.

You've gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word 'Jew' to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called 'elite' families)--the Rothschild's in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfman's in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional 'master deceivers' commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their 'fallen angel' cohorts.

While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don't mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central-yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so long-that even the most studied of 'conspiracy theory' scholars probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented here.

To call the following outlay 'controversial' and 'sensitive' is about as mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field!



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 06:30 AM
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For those who think I am being a little too unfair on the Vatican...lets do a brief touch on history, you'll see that I have not been forward enough.


1096 Roman Catholic crusaders slaughter half the Jews in Worms, Germany.

1098 Roman Catholic crusaders slaughter almost all of the inhabitants of the city of Antioch.

1099 Roman Catholic crusaders massacre 70,000 Muslims and Jews when they capture Jerusalem.

1208 – 1226 The Albigensian Crusades in southern France. Roman Catholic crusaders slaughter approximately 20,000 citizens of Beziers, France, on July 22, 1209. Albigensian Christians and Catholics were slain. By the time the Roman Catholic armies finished their “crusade,” almost the entire population of southern France (mostly Albigensian Christians) has been exterminated. During the six centuries of papal Inquisition that began in the 13th century, up to 50 million people were killed. Read what J. A. Wylie's The History of Protestantism has to say about the Crusades against the Abigenses

1236 Roman Catholic crusaders slaughter Jews in the Anjou and Poitou regions of western France. The Catholic crusaders trample to death under their horses 3000 Jews who refuse baptism.

1243 Roman Catholic mobs burn alive all the Jews in Berlitz, Germany (near Berlin).

1298 Roman Catholic mobs burn alive all Jews in Rottingen, Germany.

April 26, 1349 Roman Catholic mobs burn to death all Jews in Germersheim, Germany.

1348 – 1349 The Jews are blamed for the bubonic plague. Author Dave Hunt tells us, “Accused of causing the ‘Black Death’ Jews were rounded up [by Roman Catholic mobs] and hanged, burned, and drowned by the thousands in revenge.”

1389 Roman Catholic mobs murder 3000 Jews in Prague when they refuse to be baptized.

1481 – 1483 At the direction of the Roman Catholic inquisitors, authorities burn at the stake at least 2000 people during the first two years of the Spanish Inquisition.

1540 – 1570 Roman Catholic armies butcher at least 900,000 Waldensian Christians of all ages during this 30-year period.

1550 – 1560 Roman Catholic troops slaughter at least 250,000 Dutch Protestants via torture, hanging, and burning during this ten-year period.

1553 – 1558 Roman Catholic Queen Mary I of England (aka “bloody Mary”) attempts to bring England back under the yoke of papal tyranny. During her reign, approximately 200 men and woman are burned to death at the sake. Her victims include bishops, scholars, and other Protestant leaders.

1572 St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre. French Roman Catholic soldiers begin killing Protestants in Paris on the night of August 24, 1572. The soldiers kill at least 10,000 Protestants during the first three days. At least 8000 more Protestants are killed as the slaughter spreads to the countryside.

1618 – 1648 The Thirty Years’ War. This bloody, religious war is planned, instigated, and orchestrated by the Roman Catholic Jesuit order and its agents in an attempt to exterminate all the Protestants in Europe. Many countries in central Europe lose up to half their population.

1641 – 1649 Eight years of Jesuit-instigated Roman Catholic butchery of Irish Protestants claims the lives of at least 100,000 Protestants.

1685 French Roman Catholic soldiers slaughter approximately 500,000 French Protestant Huguenots on the orders of Roman Catholic King Louis 14 of France.

Circa 1938 – 1945 Catholic dictators such as Adolf Hitler and Monsignor Tiso slaughter approximately six million Jews in Europe prior to and during World War 2.

1941 – 1945 The Roman Catholic Ustashi in the fascist state of Croatia butcher up to one million Serbian Orthodox Christians. Roman Catholic killer squads are often led by Franciscan priests, monks, and friars. This genocide is choreographed by two Jesuit prelates: Aloysius Stepinac and Ivan Saric.
www.toughissues.org...


Historian J. A. Wylie said:

It is idle in Rome to say, "I gave you the Bible, and therefore you must believe in me before you can believe in it." The facts...conclusively dispose of this claim. Rome did not give us the Bible—she did all in her power to keep it form us; she retained it under the seal of a dead language; and when others broke that seal, and threw open its pages to all, she stood over the book, and unsheathing her fiery sword, would permit none to read the message of life, save at the peril of eternal anathema"
J.A. Wylie, History of Protestantism Volume 1 (Virginia: Heartland Publications, 2002): 58



Most of our encyclopedias and history textbooks do NOT tell us that the purpose of the attempted invasion of England in 1588 by the Spanish Armada was to land troops in England to be joined by local Roman Catholics in an effort to overthrow the government and bring England, by force, back under the authority of Papal Rome! The Roman Catholic King of Spain (Philip II) wanted financial “compensation” for launching this invasion. And so the Roman pontiff, Pope Sixtus V, promised King Philip II 200,000 crowns as soon as the Spanish Armada had set sail for England, and more cash to follow later. Thus the Papacy was helping to fund the planned invasion of England source


Catholic Professor Orestes Brownson, Brownson’s Review (January, 1854): 90:

But is it the intention of the pope to possess this country? Undoubtedly. In this intention is he aided by the Jesuits and all the Catholic prelates and priests? Undoubtedly, if they are faithful to their religion. (As quoted in J. M'Clintock (ed.), The Methodist Quarterly Review Volume 37 (New York: Carleton & Phillips, 1855): 78.)


Pope Nicholas I in a letter to the King of Bulgaria in 860 AD

I glorify you for having maintained your authority by putting to death those wandering sheep who refused to enter the fold; and you not only have not sinned, by showing a holy rigour, but I even congratulate you on having opened the kingdom of heaven to the people submitted to your rule. A king need not fear to command massacres, when these will retain his subjects in obedience, or cause them to submit to the faith of Christ; and God will reward him in this world, and in eternal life, for these murders.


Pope Leo VIII, Immortale Dei (November 1, 1885):

The unrestrained freedom of thinking and of openly making known one’s thoughts is not inherent in the rights of citizens and is by no means worthy of favor and support.


Civilta Cattolica (House organ of the Jesuits):

Fascism is the regime that corresponds most closely to the concepts of the Church of Rome.


David Hunt, A Woman Rides the Beast (Harvest House, 1994): 126:

The Constitution of the United States was condemned by the Papacy because it separated church and state and prohibited the establishment of any religion by the government. The popes, on the other hand, had long required governments to make Roman Catholicism the official religion and to prohibit the practice of any other.


Dr. William P. Grady:

During a sermon in 1850, [Roman Catholic] Archbishop John Hughes of New York, the nation’s leading Vatican spokesman, acknowledged that a conspiracy to subjugate free America did exist after all. The Catholic press was ecstatic. An excerpt from ‘Shepherd of the Valley’, the official journal of the [Roman Catholic] Bishop of St. Louis, declared, ‘If Catholics ever gain a sufficient numerical majority in this country, religious freedom is at an end. So our enemies say, so we believe.’ [Catholic Archbishop] Hughes’ own paper, the ‘New York Freeman’ brazenly announced, ‘No man has a right to choose his religion.’


Darryl Eberhart, "The Papacy's Hatred of Liberty," Tackling the Tough Topics:


...the Papacy, despite its “ecumenical rhetoric”, has not changed a bit over the many centuries in the following categories:
* Its deep hatred of Jews, all independent Bible-believing Christians, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians (as recently as the 1940s we find Roman Catholic Ustashi military units in Croatia, led and urged on by Franciscan priests, monks, and friars, slaughtering from 600,000 to one million innocent Serb Orthodox Christian men, women, elderly, and children – many of the victims being first brutally tortured);
* Its long-held dream to bring all Christians under its monopolistic, totalitarian, ecclesiastical control;
* Its long-held dream to head up a totalitarian one-world religious organization; and,
* Its long-held dream to bring all world leaders – especially those in “Christian” countries – under the temporal power of the pope.


Charles Chiniquy, a Catholic priest who turned to Protestantism says:

Have not the popes publicly and repeatedly anathematized the sacred principle of Liberty of Conscience? Have they not boldly said, in the teeth of the nations of Europe, that Liberty of Conscience must be destroyed – killed at any cost? Has not the whole world heard the sentence of death to liberty coming from the lips of the old man of the Vatican?
The Priest, The Woman and the Confessional (BiblioBazaar, 2007): 104:


Dave Hunt, A Cup of Trembling (Eugene, Oregon: Harvest House Publishers, 1995): 160:

Church historian R. Tudor Jones writes that "the majority of the martyrs were ordinary people, including many women"...John Foxe was an eyewitness and earnest historian of the fierce persecution in England in his day. His Book of Martyrs gives detailed accounts of many public trials and executions of those whom the Roman Catholic Church judged to be "heretics" worthy of death. His descriptions of Christians being burned at the stake tell of their inspiring bravery in the face of such a horrible death and of the determination of Roman Catholicism to exterminate everywhere true Christians who opposed her. Similar records have come down of the massacres of Jews at the hands of the Roman Church.


John Daniel, The Grand Design Exposed (CHJ Publishing, 1999): 27, 78:

Through relentless torture, starvation, genocide, massacres, burning at the stake, against every conceivable fury of [Papal] Rome, they [i.e., the ‘seeds of protest’] could not be extinguished. History estimates that over one hundred million people lost their lives during that time of [Papal] Roman tyranny. Is it any wonder that God graphically describes this onslaught of [Papal] Rome as her being ‘drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus’, and calls her the ‘Beast’?

…For the unbiased researcher, history reeks of the butchery of Romanism, where whole cities and populations were unmercifully wiped out, just because they worshipped God in a manner that was different from Roman Catholicism.


Charles A. Bolton (Ex-Roman Catholic priest):

What has turned my soul against Roman abuse of power is the way in which it has tortured and burned such saints of God as Joan of Arc, hundreds of the Albigensian martyrs in France in the 12th century, the Knights Templar, John Huss [Czech Jan Hus], the Dominican Savonarola, the Dominican Giordano Bruno, [and] the Anglican bishops Cranmer, Ridley, and Latimer. The Inquisition has promoted at least two wholesale massacres: [hundreds of] thousands of Protestant Waldensians in northern Italy, and thousands of Protestant Huguenots by the massacre of St. Bartholomew in France. More than 30,000 of the most cultured Protestants of France were put to the sword on the night of St. Bartholomew, August 24, 1572. At the news [of this brutal, bloody massacre], the Pope had cannons fired, proclaimed a jubilee, ordered a Te Deum of thanksgiving to be sung, and struck a special medal to commemorate the glorious ‘victory’.


Dave Hunt, A Woman Rides the Beast (Eugene, Oregon: Harvest House Publishers, 1994): 80, 261:

To wring out confessions from these poor creatures, the Roman Catholic Church devised ingenious tortures so excruciating and barbarous that one is sickened by their recital.

The Medieval Inquisition had flourished for centuries when Pope Paul III, in 1542, gave it permanent status as the first of Rome’s Sacred Congregations, the ‘Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Inquisition’. Known more recently as the ‘Holy Office’, its name was changed in 1967 to the ‘Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’…Therefore it is not surprising that the ‘Office of the Inquisition’ still occupies the Palace of the Inquisition adjacent to the Vatican, though under its new name, the ‘Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’. Its current Grand Inquisitor, who reports directly to the pope, is the former Archbishop of Munich, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, whom Time [Magazine] has called ‘the world’s most powerful cardinal [and] the Catholic Church’s chief enforcer of dogma…’


World War 1


Pope Pius X, in his hatred of the Orthodox Christians, was continually inciting Emperor Francis Joseph of Austria-Hungary to ‘chastise the Serbians.’ After Sarajevo, on July 26, 1914, Baron Ritter, Bavarian representative at the Holy See, wrote to his government: “The Pope approves of Austria’s harsh treatment of Serbia. He has no great opinion of the armies of Russia and France in the event of a war with Germany. The Cardinal Secretary of State does not see when Austria could make war if she does not decide to do so now….” There, in true colours, is the Vicar of Christ [the pope], the gentle apostle of peace, the Holy Pontiff whom pious authors represent as having died of sorrow at seeing the outbreak of war. — Edmund Paris. The Vatican against Europe, The Wickliffe Press, p. 14.

One may say quite specifically that in 1914, the Roman Catholic Church started the series of hellish wars. It was then that the tribute of blood which she has always taken from the peoples began to swell into a veritable torrent. — Ibid, p. 48.



Thus we see that the pope realized that if Austria-Hungary crushed the Serbs, then the Serbs’ Orthodox Christian brothers from Russia would enter the fray. Then Germany, France and others would join in, and you have World War One. The papacy was thrilled to see Russia enter the conflict. Russia was predominantly Orthodox and the papacy wanted the Orthodox Christians in Russia and around the world annihilated.

The papacy’s Jesuits had another reason for being so happy when Russia entered the conflict. It was payback time. About 100 years before World War One began, Alexander I, the Russian emperor, kicked the Jesuits out of Russia.

The Russian emperor, Alexander, was currently compelled to issue a royal decree in 1816, by which he expelled them [the Jesuits] from St. Petersburg and Moscow. This proving ineffectual, he issued another in 1820, excluding them entirely from the Russian dominions. — R.W. Thompson, The Footprints of the Jesuits, Hunt and Eaton, pp. 245, 246.
Five years later, Alexander was poisoned to death. The Czars were under Jesuit attack.

Alexander II broke all diplomatic ties with Rome in 1877 and even proposed a Constitution.

Alexander II had progressed well with his great reforms and had attached his signature to a Constitution to be adopted by Russia. The next day a bomb was thrown at his carriage, which killed and wounded a number of Cossacks, who accompanied the carriage. The Emperor in deep sympathy left the carriage to look at the dying men, when a second bomb blew him to pieces. — Arno Gaebelien, Conflict of the Ages, The Exhorters, p. 85.

Finally, in 1917, the last Czar and all his family were murdered. Never again would a hated emperor from the House of the Romanoff rule Russia or ever again protect the Orthodox Church. Payback time had come.

The overthrow of the Czarist system therefore, brought with it the inevitable overthrow of the established Orthodox Church. To the Vatican, which had waged war against the Orthodox Church since the eleventh century, the downfall of her millenarian rival was too good to be true. — Avro Manhattan, The Vatican Billions, Chick Publications, pp. 120, 121.

Who was it that aided and financed the Russian revolutionaries in their takeover of Russia? Who backed Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin as they created revolution and bloodshed throughout Russia?

The instruments of this new alliance between the Soviets and the Vatican were to be the Jesuits, described as the hereditary enemies of the Orthodox Church. Reportedly, there were large numbers of representatives of the Jesuit Order in Moscow during the Revolution. — James Zatko, Descent into Darkness, University of Notre Dame Press, p. 111.

Among the 1,766,188 victims up to the beginning of 1922, figures obtained from the Soviet documents, nearly five thousand were priests, teachers, nuns, etc. of the Orthodox Church.... Nearly 100,000 Lutherans banished..... Whole villages were wiped out.... Thousands of churches of the different branches have been demolished and the work of destruction goes on...... — Arno Gaebelien, Conflict of the Ages, The Exhorters, pp. 103-106.

The actual Jesuit financiers of the Revolution were to be found in America.

William Franklin Sands, a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, had just contributed $1,000,000 to the Bolsheviks. — Anthony Sutton, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Veritas Publishing, pp. 133, 134.

Jacob Schiff was the principle Jesuit in America who was assigned the task of taking over the American banking system and establishing the Federal Reserve.

Jacob Schiff came to America in the late 1800s with orders from the Rothschilds to get control of the American banking system. By the turn of the century, 1900, Schiff had mastery of the entire banking fraternity on Wall Street. — Myron Fagan, The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations, Taped Lecture.

Since Schiff had control of the Federal Reserve Bank, he now had a source of money to finance the Communist Revolution in Russia.

In the February 3, 1949, issue of the New York Journal American, Schiff’s grandson, John, was quoted by columnist Cholly Knickerbocker as saying that his grandfather [Jacob Schiff] had given about twenty million dollars for the triumph of Communism in Russia. — G. Edward Griffin, The Creature from Jekyll Island, American Opinion Publishing, p. 265.
The Secret Terrorists, chapter 6 WW1


World War 2


Popes and their Jesuitical agents have been and are the instigators of wars, and while the world is having real pain, Rome is having champagne. — Jeremiah J. Crowley (a former Catholic priest), Romanism: A Menace to the Nation, Menace Publishing, p. 144.



One may say quite specifically that in 1914, the Roman Church started the series of hellish wars. It was then that the tribute of blood which she has always taken from the peoples began to swell into a veritable torrent. — Edmond Paris, The Vatican Against Europe, The Wickliffe Press, p. 48.



Hitler himself admits that he was helped by the methods of the Jesuit counter-Reformation to carry on his ideological war.... [We] have witnessed Catholicism’s open support of every step taken by Nazi-Facism to impose authoritarian regimes upon all peoples. — Leo H Lehman, Behind the Dictators, Agora Publishing, pp. 36, 38, 39.




This is the record of torture and murder committed in Europe in 1941-1943 by an army of Catholic Actionists known as the Ustashi, led by monks and priests, and even participated in by nuns. The victims suffered and died in the cause of liberty and freedom of conscience. The least we can do is to read the record of their sufferings and keep in mind that it happened, not in the dark ages, but in our own ENLIGHTENED generation. Ustashi is another name for Catholic Action. — Monica Farrell, Ravening Wolves, Protestant Publications, cover.



The mass expulsion or forced conversion of the Orthodox Christians to Roman Catholicism was on the agenda. All measures, aiming at the elimination of Serbdom in Croatia were carried out under the slogan enunciated by one of the Croatian ministers: “We shall massacre the first third of the Serbs, expel the second third from the country and force the final third to accept the Catholic faith, whereby they will be absorbed by the Catholic element.” — Lazo M. Kostich, Holocaust in the Independent State of Croatia, Liberty, p. 18.



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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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God bless you.

It is end of time and even they have confessed.

The events we are witnessing today is the job of Satan and he is not powerful and is regarded as stupid amongst his kind.

I have made a thread about Stan and I have gathered much information about how he accomplishes his job.

One way I propose to stand against this hard blowing wave is to gather the ways he does his job and reveal the information.

I have done a little in this thread and hope it is useful :

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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Some info just in off the grape-vine - Jesuit's counterfeiting The Great Controversy book in China

Jesuits discovered printing and distributing counterfeit copies of Adventist books (Ellen White's Spirit of Prophecy series) with changed inserted Catholic doctrine and false histories (particularly of the most damning book against the Vatican which also reveals Satan's entire end time plans 'The Great Controversy').


Pastor David Kang tells how the Chinese Jesuits have printed counterfeit copies of Ellen G. White's books in China with illegal changes. Adventists couldn't get the legal ISBN number to publish the books of Ellen G. White in China -- but it seems that they got it in Hong Kong, and published The Great Controversy Series over there. In China, the Jesuits got the legal ISBN number, and published Ellen G. White's books, and distributed them!!!! Sounds good???? Think again!!!! The books looked exactly like the ones that the Adventists had published in Hong Kong, with the same covers,& with Ellen G. White's name, but there were changes inside!!!! Sunday is called God's Sabbath, but the most startling changes were in the accounts on the Reformation. Martin Luther apparently fell in love, and since the priests couldn't marry, he revolted against the church, and started the reformation!!!! And instead of calling the Jesuits "the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery", [The Great Controversy, p. 2343], the "revised" book portrays them as wonderful evangelists that were far more effective than the reformers!!!!
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and another

Today I received and email from Jeffrey and Monica Sonnentag alerting me about a recent video posted by Pastor David Kang describing how our Ellen White books are being sold in China. The problem is that the content of said books has been apparently altered in many places in order to reflect Catholic doctrinal teachings. A good example is the reference to the creation where Sunday is presented as the day the Lord rested following his creative work. This type of glaring and daring counterfeit is almost unbelievable, but Pastor Kang has the damning evidence in his possession.

One thing is the failure to acknowledge one’s sources, which is what Mrs. White was criticized for, but another thing is to publish her books bearing her name, but with the content altered to suit her critics and enemies. This type of criminal behavior is contemptible and should be investigated and penalized. Of course, what can you expect from China where all kinds of legally protected merchandize is being illegally produced, sold, and exported!

In the “Great Controversy” book, for example, the Jesuits are described in glowing terms as successful evangelists instead of “the most cruel, unscrupulous,” religious manipulators who had no moral problem using lies and deception in order to advance and restore the supremacy of the Roman Pontiff. The video lasts about half and hour and the content is impressive, well documented, and alarming for Adventists. If you haven’t watched it yet, I suggest that you take the time to listen to what Pastor Kang has to say about this. Here is the link for the video and another link to the comments of someone else who took the time to watch it.
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Jesuit Attack in China: David Kang (watch from the 7 minute mark to about the 17 minute mark)


Hmmm, I wonder why the Jesuits would be altering the most damning book of their entire agenda to make them seem much more favorable if the book didn't have some serious truth in it from the beginning! No surprise to me. The roaches are working hard no doubt



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
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thanks for the answer.



he describes the masculine aspect ('lord of heaven'/Apollo) as being represented by the sun. The supreme feminine goddess in pagan religion is almost always associated with the moon.

what do you think is the gender of god ? or is god genderless ?


My understanding is that all of God's creation before humanity and this earth's creation never died and so never had a need to reproduce. God created them himself rather than being birthed from a womb. There is no gender discrimination with God no matter what 'gender' He is. The Bible says Jesus is a male, a Son and He also has a Father. We should not get wrapped up on ideas on the significance of that as we can't really comprehend how such a system works outside our paradigm of male/female biological necessity.
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posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 10:29 AM
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I don't see how it is posted in the wrong forum...it is the end goal of the Luciferian NWO.

I agree, this should be in the religious forum. And sorry to burst your little bubble, friend, but the only NWO I see here that is evil is the Christian Fundamentalists attempting to bring about their own version of Biblical Law and Cult Mentality. The name "Lucifer" is not a common name for a being, it means "Bringer of Light." Not Bringer of Darkness. Your Godman called himself "Morning Star" many more times than he called anyone else that, and in truth, "Lucifer" could not have appeared in the original Hebrew Bible because it is a Latin word.
You are grasping at straws attempting to gain converts. Tell me, if all of ATS were to join your Cult, what would you do then?

The human agents are mostly unwitting participants putting the control grid together.

And you know all about this, don't you? Who is the "human agent" here trying to put a control system together right here in ATS? Looked in the mirror of late, friend?

The actual goal of their supernatural master though has always been the same, receive false worship from people on a world-wide scale and prevent as many people from going to heaven as possible.

The origin of the Christian concept of Heaven is easily identifiable. It evolved over time from original scientific and astronomical Mythology.
What is the origin of the word heaven?

Before 12th century: Old English heofon, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch hemel and German Himmel.

2. The Greek word is "ouranos" (the root of the word "Uranus")
and it simply means the sky, the heavens. ... "ouranos"

"OROS" MEANING LIFTED UP, HIGH, MOUNTAIN.

Everything the average Christian thinks about Heaven was placed into their minds by a leader of the Church, or someone such as yourself. Friend, anyone intelligent enough and really well read can take a simple concept and build on it, make it as real as possible, and convince gullible people to believe it. But not all will be convinced.

Perhaps people reading on the NWO section don't want to be confronted with all this religion stuff but unfortunately for you that is what it all turns out to be about.

Only in your own mindset, friend. Many of us welcome a New Order, we are sick and tired of the Old Order, and fundamentalist religion is one of the things we are tired of.

Satan wanting the destruction of as many souls as possible to go down with him.

I ask you again, why the strong support for a mythical being invented by the Church? Do you want Satan to be alive, and perform the things you see him doing? Is that your purpose here? I never, ever hear Atheists, Muslims, Wiccans, Buddhist, Taoists, or Hindus talking about Satan. Who always talks about Satan here? Again look in the mirror.

Anyone doing research into the religious beliefs of the human agents of the NWO soon find out they are basically all Satanic or Luciferian in orientation and have massive links to the Catholic Church (usually through Jesuit controlled secret societies).

Yeah, that sounds about right. Lay the blame squarely on another religious sect. Are you certain the Masons, or the Gays and Lesbians are not "in on it?" And your constant liking of Satan and Lucifer plainly shows you have NOT done your research. So how can you accuse others of not pursuing truth when you do not?

The truth is confronting and when it is found out it requires decisions by people.

You said it there, friend. Talking about your own self here? You have been confronted with Truth many times in this forum, and you just ignore it and go on posting your rhetoric over and over, as if repetition will somehow convince everyone to think like you do. You know, bring about Armageddon, kill everyone not belonging to your Cult, damn all the sinners to Hell, and take all of you to Heaven.
Good luck with that.



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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the only NWO I see here that is evil is the Christian Fundamentalists...

Okay I will name some Christian groups who actually follow/ed the fundamentals of their religion (thus 'Christian Fundamentalists, sabbath-keeping protestants in history) and you tell me why they are so dangerous.
- Church of Smyrna circa 150AD
- French Huguenots circa 1500's
- modern seventh-day Adventism


Who is the "human agent" here trying to put a control system together

A typical example of an unwitting human agent would be a politician who gets their orders from above them and mostly unwittingly puts the laws in place (perhaps just by an affirmative vote) without realizing what exactly they are setting up. A different example of a human agent unwittingly putting the control grid in place in a spiritual sense would be someone like David Icke. To me he seems sincere in wanting to expose the NWO and has been spot on the mark with some of his comments. Like these:


But he unfortunately has tried to branch out into spiritual matters and has been giving information on these matters that he says comes from the spirits and says he has no interest in testing the spirits. Unfortunately his spiritual information (same with Micheal Tsarion) turns out to be based on moron-level 'science' espousing nothing but doctrine of Bailey and Blavatsky from Lucifer Publishing Company (aka Lucis Trust) who is connected with the NWO run United Nations, managed by David Rockefeller and owned by the Illuminati control grid. If people are against the NWO, satanic secret societies, ect then you darn well better make sure the spiritual philosophy you are preaching is not straight out luciferian theology from the illuminati on behalf of Satan. It is unfortunate that all Icke's efforts now, because he hasn't been vigilant enough, are doing nothing but helping those he was fighting against.

If you are implying that I am a 'human agent' for them I guess that would make sense seeing that both my personal email accounts have been destroyed for me to use in the past couple of months and my posting on all the quoted (3 posts worth) historical content connecting freemasonry, Jesuits, Nazism, illuminati ect together has been silently removed over the past month or so (from the thread in the secret societies section of ATS).


Many of us welcome a New Order, we are sick and tired of the Old Order


Lets see out of the horse's mouth just how great this same Satanic 'New Order' will be from ex-illuminati Svali:

Q: Svali, you said Illuminists are working hard for those goals and looking forward to the final implementation of the 'glorious New Order', or world government, so that they can take part and be leaders in that society. At what point will the Illuminati be satisfied with their achievements, and what is their vision of that 'glorious New Order'? What shape, form or system will it have, what political infrastucture? Dictatorial, communist, democratic? Will there be an end to their struggle for global control?

Savli: I was taught that during the coming "Order" or Government, that it would at first be a heavily dictatorial and military government. This is why there is extensive training of covert military forces in all ranks, to implement this policy. Why? Because not everyone will welcome their ''enlightened'' rule, and there will be those who oppose them.
Their army is being trained in crowd control techniques and camps will be set up to send dissenters to. Think of Hitler's Germany, which was a prototype. The government will be highly authoritative and centralized in the Supreme World Council, with the national councils and regional councils under its control.
The implementation of a semi-marxist, or military socialism, will then follow (Marx was an Illuminist, and was told what to write in his treatises), co-ordinated under the umbrella of the regional and national councils. Financial power will be held at the national and international levels. People will be asked to work at reduced wagesfor the glory of serving the New Order, although compensation will be based on loyalty and performance as time goes on (much as in Marxist and Leninistic Russia).
source: web.archive.org...://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/svali/2001/04/svali14.html


Hmmm, she is even confirming what Alberto Rivera said about Marx that the Jesuit (aka illuminati branch) feed him the information.


fundamentalist religion is one of the things we are tired of.


Q: Does the Illuminati have natural enemies or predators, or competitors with the same goals of global control?
Svali: Not that I know of. They are very aware of the Templar Knights, and OTO [Ordo Templi Orientis, a Catholic secret society that is a sister group to the Templar Knights and is involved in lots of occult and illegal activities as well], and while the two groups are split in some areas, they are very sympathetic and share resources with each other. The only true enemy that they see is the Christian church, which opposes all that they do. Because the Illuminati are based in occult spirituality, they despise any group that espouses Judaism or fundamental Christianity as being their mortal enemies. This is because Christians engage in spiritual warfare that hurts their cause.
source: web.archive.org...://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/svali/2001/04/svali14.html


Auto, why is it that basically all the ex-illuminati and ex-satantist members become protestant Christians (and call out the Catholic church for being involved in the NWO)?
- Svali, Anthony Lavey (Son of Anton Lavey), Doc Marquis, John Todd to name the better known ones.


why the strong support for a mythical being invented by the Church? Do you want Satan to be alive, and perform the things you see him doing?


Unfortunately for whose wanting an escape from Biblical reality, us real 'Truthers' just get way too much material from the ex-illuminati and ex-Satanist people to turn a blind eye too:

Q: Svali, I have to ask you this: There are stories floating around on the internet about the Illuminati (and other agencies) being run by extra-terrestrials, ET's, in particular a reptilian race, operating from a higher dimension. Any thoughts on that?
A: My answer will probably cause a lot of anger, and it's not meant to step on any toes. Here it goes.
I have never seen an alien or extra-terrestial. I have seen some programming to make people THINK they saw aliens, as a cover story for programming, if they remembered. None of the head trainers I knew, or others on leadership council, believed in aliens, although I never asked them.
I personally believe that the reptilian stuff is actually the demonic at work. I have seen shape-shifting and other stuff because of demonic influence (okay, so here some will say, gee, she believes in demons, that's as far out as aliens).
Well, this is what the Illuminati certainly believe in. They KNOW there are spiritual realities, and think they can control them.
web.archive.org...://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/svali/2001/01/svali09.html

In the occult world, I do believe that there are demons, that they are real, and that they have a spiritual hierarchy that the cult hierarchy attempts to emulate on a physical plane.
There are principalities, and lower demons, and they control the portals into other spiritual dimensions that humans have NO BUSINESS entering. This stuff is destructive in the extreme to people.
The shape shifting was usually in the context of an occult ceremony, by those given completely over to the demonic. Humans took on the form of animals for a period of time, or of hideous looking beings, and they were NOT aliens. This was demonic activity that caused a human to see the demonic revealed, and distorted what they saw.
web.archive.org...://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/svali/2001/01/svali10.html


and this from ex-illuminati Leo Zagami

Q: You mention you openly want to challenge the decadent and corrupt aristocrats of Europe , including the corrupt English Royal family can you expand on this.

A [Leo Zagami]: They know who they are and what they are really doing to people by still supporting the current situation of decadence and corruption in society in the year 2006. A evil situation deliberately created by the New World Order establishment lead by the Vatican with Zionist support. They all know very well that all depends from Rome , Israel and the USA all in the hands of Satan, so why bother creating more Knighthoods dedicated to God and the various Saints every year?

Why don't you just go public with your pagan satanic worship and your black magic you bunch of cowards, that's what I say to them. The European aristocracy has always been ruled by sourcery and black magic and people should know that, so lets change things once and for all for the benefit of mankind.
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Q: In your opinion when did the Jesuit Order begin working towards a NWO and what is the end goal for them.

A: ALREADY ANSWERED THEY WORK FOR SATAN.
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I could expand on this question greatly with lots of evidence but I am not sure you want to actually see the testimony of such things. (the spiritual deceptions of a false reptilian/grey alien war at the hands of the shape-shifters is preventing 'truth' from critical thinking to win through, so I don't know how to be more convincing for you than to not make your ears bleed anymore than necessary)


you have NOT done your research. So how can you accuse others of not pursuing truth when you do not?


The information I have given is backed up with appropriate enough sources and analysis. The information on Icke and Tsarion (Blavatsky and Bailey works) shows exactly how Christianity is being set up to face genocide from the New Ager crowd after Icke's said 'x-factor' event (pushed into his mind for him to tell people of by his 'spirit' guides). Considering that the Bible and Adventist already plainly expect all this because God tells us about this before hand and exactly what this 'x-factor' event is I find the idea that my research being lacking to be disingenuous.

My family and high-school friend who is a baptized Adventist is not "in on it" and he is gay


You have been confronted with Truth many times in this forum, and you just ignore it

Please confront me with the Truth that I have ignored (I can recall a couple of things I didn't specifically answer you on but I thought them to be fairly minor and hoped you would look into your question and find the information out for yourself). I am sure the ledger in this regard is about 10-30 times in my favor of who is the one ignoring 'the truth' between us, but hey, go for it.


Tell me, if all of ATS were to join your Cult, what would you do then?

It will never happen. I will be lucky if I can get anymore than a couple of hundred people to remember the things I post on (if no false second coming of Christ happens in the next 6 months to 2 years). Posting here helps me see how people respond to the information and where my research is lacking and the typical questions asked. It is practice for me during the time of trouble when God will expect me to talk to many people at once about this in person. The information is now public record so others who remember this can show others when the events I describe take place. You may not be appreciative of what I have to say now but you may when history comes round to confirm the prophetic truth of this message.


You know, bring about Armageddon, kill everyone not belonging to your Cult, damn all the sinners to Hell, and take all of you to Heaven.

- Armageddon is not a literal war, it is symbolic of the battle to make the right decision for God inside one's own mind
- The only thing I will be killing are deer when I have to go seek shelter amongst the mountains, when I will have no food to eat and the rest of the world will be seeking to kill my people.
- I don't recall any strong message of damning on my part
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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 11:03 PM
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Here is some more information from ex-illuminati (of 22 years) 3rd degree master witch and now Christian Doc Marquis that I think you will find very interesting and who will come across as a credible source of information about the illuminati and the NWO plans.

Arrival of the Antichrist part 1 (Feb 2010) 2:11 hours


Arrival of the Antichrist part 2 (Feb 2010) 48 minutes


Description:
Former Illuminist/Satanist Doc Marquis provides insight into the coming Masonic Christ;, the Antichrist, which only an insider could know. Chapters include - 1) Introduction; 2) History of the Masters of the Illuminati; 3) Religion of the Illuminati - and of Antichrist; 4) The Illuminati 7-Part Plan for Global Conquest. Focus is on the infamous Rothschild 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' and how leaders are following that plan as a blueprint; 5) The two Great Seals of the United States; 6) Maps of Washington, D.C. From this discussion, Doc presents a thorough examination of the Illuminati Card Game, showing specific cards. You will learn details of the Plans to produce the 'Masonic Christ', the Antichrist, on the world scene, details which you will hear nowhere else. Yet, all of the Illuminati Plan to produce Antichrist fulfill Bible prophecy exactly.

The video is very good (although I disagree with him saying the Pharaoh of the exodus was Ramses and not Tutmose III)
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Doc Marquis - Magick, Mysticism and Masonry - Part 1 (2010) 1:37 Hours


Doc Marquis - Magick, Mysticism and Masonry - Part 2 (2010) 1:03 Hours


Description:
This is THE ONE video every Mason to whom you are witnessing must see! Doc Marquis drives a wooden stake into the heart of Freemasonry by exposing truths only known to a former Satanist. After proving that Masonry does claim to be a religion, Marquis quotes from a Masonic handbook which says that 'The name Jesus Christ means absolutely nothing' to a Mason! Six parts to this video: 1) Legend of Hiram Abiff. Shows how Masons place Nimrod symbols inside their version of Solomon's Temple; 2) Captain Morgan fuels the Anti-Masonic Movement; 3) Religion and the Masons; 4) Illuminati - Masonic connection. Two Movements completely intertwined. Covers famous Masons and Witches. Very interesting! 5) Masonry and Washington, D.C. Unique portion here is that Marquis shows another small town which has a monument stating that Washington, D.C., streets were laid out in the Masonic Square and Compass; 6) Spiritual adultury, secret handshakes and strange symbols. Most informative of all Doc Marquis' videos. Really challenges the Southern Baptist Convention to change their rules allowing Masons in the pulpit, as Deacons and as church members.
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Those are the only two presentations I have seen of Doc Marquis so far along with a lengthy radio interview he did on Flow of Wisdom Radio last September.

I notice that he has put out a lot of interestingly titled DVDs in the last couple of years but I haven't got around to seeing them yet. Here are some the the titles that should peak your interest...

Catholicism: Which Queen of Heaven?
Drawing upon his deep training in Witchcraft, Doc Marquis conclusively proves that Roman Catholicism is identical to Ancient Babylonian Witchcraft.

Doc begins by proving that the Virgin Mary, the Queen of Heaven in Catholicism, is identical to Semiramis, the Queen of Heaven in Babylonian Witchcraft. Are you aware that Israel's worship of the 'Queen of Heaven' is one of the major reasons God condemned Israel and cast her into the devastating 70-year judgment at the hands of King Nebuchadnezzar?

Doc also proves that the Catholic Mass is identical to the Babylonian Black Magick Mass, a most interesting revelation. You can see that both Masses use the same elements, laid out in the same manner. Doc lays out and explains a Catholic Mass side-by-side with a Black Magick Mass so you can see they are identical.


T he Protocols of Zion: The Plot Against Israel (Ausgust 5th 2010)

The Purpose of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is to establish Satan as the Lord of this World, exactly as the Bible says he is. But, at this End of the Age, the Protocols intends to establish Satan as the replacement of God on the throne of the world, to be worshipped and obeyed as God! No other document in the past 2,000 years has continually set the world on fire more than the Protocols of Zion. Yet, a majority of people consider this Illuminati blueprint to be fraudulent. Marquis shall prove that, while the Protocols is NOT a Jewish conspiracy, it is an Illuminati conspiracy to take over the world for their Masonic Christ. The Protocols has already set the world on fire many times: 1) Fomented and directed the Great French Revolution (1789-1799); 2) Fomented the great Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in 1917 that established Communism; 3) In 1870, planned Three (3) World Wars to stage Antichrist on the world scene. World Wars I & II were precisely carried out. World War III is being set up exactly as The Protocols envisioned, and will be the most bloody war ever; 4) Planned the attacks of 9/11; 5) Planned the global terrorism campaign now underway; 6) Planned economic collapse; 7) Planned the most murderous, most severe global dictatorship history has ever seen. 8) Marquis will reveal other bloody plans. Will demonstrate how parts of The Protocols were later fulfilled in modern history. This DVD provides the only true understanding of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion ever and is only possible because Doc Marquis is a former Satanist trained in the Illuminati Plan.

Paradigm Shift: The Illuminati's Plan For 2012 & Beyond (July 1st 2011)
On December 21, 2012, the world is supposed to enter into a New Age of spiritual enlightenment and awareness. This astrological chart cast for December 21, 2012, depicts the Yod the finger of God pointing to this new spiritual energy and spiritual healing. For the past several thousand years, mankind has been collectively yearning for a spiritual healing of the nations, a time when wars, hatreds and divisions will miraculously give way to peace, love and unity. New Age literature abounds with this message of hope and change. Authors teach that this idyllic new Garden of Eden will occur only after the New Age Christ is on the world scene, leading mankind into a most peaceful New World Order. In Volume 2, we shall examine some more cultural and spiritual expectations for 2012 and then we shall present the real point-in-history change which the Elite seem to have planned for December 21, 2012, a change known as the "Paradigm Shift". Antichrist cannot arise until and unless this paradigm shift in spiritual values has occurred. Unless God specificially stops the Illuminati, their demonic Guiding Spirits may just have this long-awaited Paradigm Shift planned for December 21, 2012. New Age adherents are looking forward to this day as enthusiastically as we Christians are looking forward to the Rapture of the Church!

Aliens, Fallen Angels or Antichrist - by Doc Marquis - Volume 1
What is the truth behind Aliens and UFO's? Through his unique background into Illuminized Satanism, Doc Marquis studies this phenomenon from a unique perspective of which no one else is capable. Are aliens truly super-human beings from a civilization countless light years from Earth, or is something more sinister occurring? Are we to think of aliens as simply physical beings, or do they represent a threatening spiritual challenge to all mankind? Doc Marquis revelas a plot that first began in Genesis 6 and which is still being carried out by the Illuminati today. Ramifications will be devastating for those who have to suffer through the coming alien infestation. Volume 2
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More info on ex-Illuminati mind programmer Svali from the website I originally came across her a couple of years ago now. Listed here and mp3 audio of her interview

It appears that my source link to Svali quotes didn't come up too well in my last post. The website that host them all is in two parts combined URL:

So head to that site and have a good look around for some decent info.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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ok i saw your signature and was curious and hopped over here... holy capers batman.. i don't have time to read through 11 pages to get your point... is there a short synopsis version.. i need cliff notes.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by gnosticagnostic
ok i saw your signature and was curious and hopped over here... holy capers batman.. i don't have time to read through 11 pages to get your point... is there a short synopsis version.. i need cliff notes.


The first post covers what God's mark is and also who the beast is and what it's mark is, the following few posts after that confirm it from multiple angles....also you will learn much about the NWO and Beast power. I would consider reading up to the end of this post on page 1. I will sort through some of the better posts of information for you through the following 10 pages of content and questions asked though.
-A page 2 post to a person's quesiton

-A good evidenced page 3 post on a common concern

-A good page 4 post explaining the 'Sea beast' and 'whore of Babylon'

-p.4 post tackling all 18 arguments againsts why receiving the beast's mark and not God's would legally rule yourself out of heaven

-p.5 post covering how the OlD Testament reveals the meaning behind in words 'in your hand or forehead' clearly showing it is not a 'chip'

-p.7 post answer to another common critique

-p.8 post dealing with concern on Judgement

-p.8 post showing God expects us to keep His mark in the New Testament

-p.8 post detailing the 666 man

-p.9 list of quotes from the Beast confirming what I say

-p.9 list of short impactful vids which present the topics of legality and what God expects from us

-p. 9 quote list proving historical accuracy of what I have to say

-p.9 post documenting recent evidence preparing the way to impliment the beast's mark

-p.11 post of some important general knowledge about the beast's actions throughout history

-p.11 post evidencing that the Beast knows this information is correct and is doing what it can to destroy/corrupt it

I have documented the good posts for you...I don't want to summarise it anymore than that...you need to read it yourself, follow up the links, seek honestly and come to a strong understanding that what is being presented here is true. You will need to know this material well not only to face persecution with courage and conviction yourself but to present it to others around you as well. You can not gain that inner conviction and be effective for others by just getting a couple sentence or paragraph summary.

If you asked other guys like 'Tarzanbeta' hereand here or 'EfficientP...you'll see that I am not the only one spreading this information or have come to the same conclusion.

Please read through the information carefully, follow the relevant source links (especially the one where I outline the charactersics of the Beast/little horn). People have pondered this question for years and years and have not got close to this kind of information...if you read what is presented, you'll be able to understand it properly hopefully in just a couple of days.

Feel free to ask me any follow up questions after you have read through the suggested content though.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 08:22 PM
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i can see you have put forth a great effort.. that was one reason why I wanted the cliff note version (because I can go back through and find post with your references at any time). You will need a cliff note version to have on hand, if you(as you say will) be called on to testify to others with.. You may not have 3 hours to preach your viewpoint or days for someone else to read it and decipher it. Your gonna have to simplify responses at times. Therefore you can simply say I believe that the sign of the antichrist is X. I believe the mark is the symbol of X2. I believe all will be required to wear the mark in the near future as XY. I think the false prophet is XYZ and the woman who rides the beast is ABC.

i have only scanned some of the post because it's a little overwhelming in the details.. and as much effort as you put into it.. it's really not easy to read through. I appreciate the effort and will get back to you when i've managed to wade through it all.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 08:33 PM
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IMO any organized religion is bordering on evil.

I believe in a creator and it is between "him" and I.

Organizations like churches or any other that requires group think and actions is potentially dangerous.

The UN is dangerous for this reason.

I will stick with freedom and individuality as my temple.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 06:59 AM
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I have a 'cliff notes' version in my head that I can basically real off in 15-20 mins of talking to someone...but that is equivalent of like1:30hr of typing for me (plus I don't get to answer your relevant question on the fly). I will give you a super short version (but I usually don't like to give it because it will just leave people scratching their heads thinking 'I don't think so')

Here go's:
- The Beast of the Sea of Revelation 13 is the Papacy, it's mark is getting people to keep Sunday

- The Papal power is shown by analysis of the characteristics of the sea beast and Daniel 7 'little horn' power to be Satanic (this information is also confirmed by multiple ex-illuminati sources, at least 4 that I know).

- What Satan plans to do with this is legally rule people out of Heaven by those people compelled by fear and lack of faith during the Tribulation period (when their is civil persecution and economic boycott against them) to not keep God's commandments

- Through proper analysis of scriptures, all Christian right now are meant to keep the Sabbath commandment already, but those who don't currently realise this won't have it marked against them.

- During the Tribulation period it is going to become well known that they are meant to keep the Sabbath if they wish to follow God.

- Satan is soon going to come and impersonate the second coming of Jesus, he and his fallen angels are going to perform various miracles that convince the greater portion of the world that he is 'Christ'...the media who are controlled by the illuminati/vatican will control the minds of the people into believing this as well.

- When Satan has swayed a good portion of the world he is going to announce that he has changed the Sabbath commandment to Sunday and that he wants us to keep that

- America is going to be the first country to implement civil legislation that penalizes anyone who doesn't sign onto this, then the rest of the world will follow with similar legislation. Over time the penalty for people who don't comply will get worse and worse as well as the propaganda being spouting for what the "sabbath-keepers" are responsible for, like the cause of natural disasters ect. so that the general public continue to turn against them in an increasing more severe way.

- Eventually a death decree will go out against the sabbath-keepers and at this point God will want us to flee to safety in remote places where if need be He will supply our needs

- Those people who don't know Jesus sufficiently before this event will have an opportunity to show if they are fit for Heaven as well by deciding whether they want to give their allegiance to a blood-thirsty tyrant whom this impostor 'Christ' Satan will end up proving to be.

- It is the final end times test which test existing Christians faith (whether they trust God to supply their needs under the threat of having no food or shelter, or that He will give them life when they are under the threat of death) and if they really believe in the Word of God, or if they are just lukewarm....it will test everyone else properly to see what kind of character they have.

I hope I have explained things well enough for you in my very short version
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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So to sum up a lot of info... are you proposing that what day we go to church will determine whether we spend eternity in Heaven or Hell? To be honest I find that laughable.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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The mark of the Beast is not Sunday worship.

Rev 14:11
11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”

In other words, there will be no Sabbath rest of any sort.

I agree that the Pope is the next phase of the operation, but he is just a set up to trick people to worship the real antichrists - messiah ben Joseph (Jewish messiah that starts the 3rd temple) and messiah ben David (the Jewish conquering king that escapes from his earthly prison to rescue Jews from persecution). To a Christian these entities are one person, Jesus Christ. To a Jew, they are 2 distinct persons - hence Prince William (messiah ben Joseph) and Prince Harry (messiah ben david) (gematria 1666).





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