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They should not be able to afford cars, holidays, etc, etc, etc.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Just catching up on this thread and got this far before I felt I had to reply.
reply to post by tombangelta
All I see around me in the uk is thick scum who don't care about education
One of the roles of an educator is to inspire - clearly they are failing - or is it the inherent failings within our education system that promotes mediocrity and conformity?
I know a couple of teachers and they care passionately about what they do and the role they should play in helping develop our children yet they complain bitterly about the restrictions placed upon them.
The creation of a two tier system will only further marginalise and alienate whole sections of society.
And have no work ethic.
I know many youngsters who desperately want to work but the simple FACT is that there are very few jobs about.
Starve them all to death or force them to grow crops.
Quite the one aren't we.
Karma is a bitch and I hope when it comes round you are fortunate to meet people more compassionate than you appear to be.
We are far to lenient on dense individuals who think they are owed
Unlike intellectual giants like yourself?
Seems to me like you are tarring a very large group of people with the same brush.
Instead a blaming the result maybe you should save some your anger for those who created the conditions and society that you decry.
reply to post by NeoSpace
Finally David Cameron has the balls to do what needs to be done to fix this country,
What, by turning on the most vulnerable and helpless and by increasing their hardship in his drive twoards a Victorianesque society?
The savings he will make are negligible in the grander scheme of things yet the suffering he will cause is immense, ever taken the time to ask yourself why?
Total housing benefits accounts for 0.12% of total government spending and 1.35% of all welfare benefits.
Any savings made will be minimal yet the hardship caused to those affected could be immeasureable.
This country has been steadily regressing for decades, Cameron is merely accelerating the process.
if you disagree with him you have probably never met these lazy people on council estates or you'r one yourself making a career sitting on your ass claiming every penny you can.
So all benefit claimants live on council estates?
Do all people who live on council estates scrounge off the governement and idle their lives away?
I've lived on a council estate all my life - done numerous jobs - including managing betting shops, ran doors, managed my own security firm, owned pubs and worked my way to a relatively senior management position in a large multi-national company - and guess what - I disagree with you 100%.
Sure, there's some idle layabouts on council estates, there's some real scumbags - but same goes for every single private housing estate throughout the country.
But there's a hell of a lot more genuine, down to earth people who just want an even break and a fair days pay for a fair days graft - but unfortunately there's very few jobs around and those that are available pay an absolute pittance.
As I said in an earlier post this country should be looking for ways to progress and improve standards of living and quality of life but instead all we get are regressive and repressive policies.
We also have alot of immigrants coming over here with no intention of working, again raising tax's for the working population.
I have massive issues with this and previous governments immigration policies but to apportion the blame on the immigrants themselves is eerily remeniscent of days gone by - something that must never be repeated.
Again, perhaps you should save your anger for those who have conspired to tranform the very fabric of our society with their open door policy, appeasement to the EU and it's dictates and their social engineering experiments.
To continue growing and developing it is essential that a certain amount of immigration is both desired and required.
But that means people who have real and tangible skills to offer and those who can contribute in a positive and progressive way in our society.
Also what we need is affordable housing
Originally posted by bearwithredhat
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
David Cameron has kicked me off jobseekers allowance because i left my job due to constructive dismissal.
Good thing too. You should have saved up whilst you were employed instead of party time every night and then "DUH, I've got no job any more"
All this Job Seekers allowance crud should all be done away with.
Why you haven't been sued for the money back I have no idea. If you have any honest or integrity, you'd go back there and give them the cash cash back and apologise for your wicked ways.
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
did you miss the part where I said I was a single dad with two little kids (and I mean 2 and 4yrs little) on welfare here in the US? It took me three years but I got off it. I understand how little you get and used to love to hear people complain how they felt embarrassed to shop at the dented can store and the Salvation Army. Well you know what? You should be thankful they are there, I know I was and if you don't like it then do something about changing your situation. Before I rant any further, I'll make my point: it is socially and morally wrong to live beyond your means when you are taking welfare. That money is not yours and it is not the govt's- it comes from hard working people (like I am now) and as one of those people I don't want my taxes going to support a lifestyle of sloth. I don't mind it helping the people who really need it at the time but not the people who live off it with no intentions of getting off. Someone said something about wanting to be able to take their family out for entertainment on welfare money and my opinion on that is the money should be on a card for specific things only. It would go so far as to prescribe what foods the person should be consuming in order to be healthy and wouldn't allow certain foods, drinks and things like cigarettes. Why should my hard earned (and believe me I work hard for my money) taxes support some slob's unhealthy lifestyle? I think I started ranting again, sorry.
reply to post by bottleslingguy
That money is not yours and it is not the govt's- it comes from hard working people (like I am now
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
sorry if I made it sound as though I was accusing you of that. I am talking about the people who totally live beyond their means collecting state money with no intentions of changing. i see it all the time whereas my job is in affordable housing. I think you would agree with me that these people need to be vetted out so people like you who statistically will only need help for so long can have the basics and a fair chance of getting out of the hole. the sloths are the problem and when they are able to spend all their food money in the first week on potato chips and soda they think they should be able to have more soda. That's not right in my book and I'm sure yours also.
It's a better world outside the system good luck and don't give up.