There is no problem with a progressive tax system but the rich don't pay their fair share because of the tax code loopholes and the fact they can afford the best tax attornies. Switzerland, bahamas, lichenstein, luxembourge, monte carlo, etc.

I also propose to punish those with multiple dependants so only the rich can have multiple kids and pay more taxes. The way it is now most people cannot afford to even support THEMSELVES with minimum wage jobs, let alone start a family and have kids.

And yes illegal immigration is certainly a problem because business does not report those wages to the government, therefore business can pay those illegals less than than minimum wage requirements, thus the locals cannot compete at all with the illegals.

Jobs get shipped overseas all the time so that companies can save money, unions are demonised and weakened, welfare spending may go down do to austerity, government is forced to pay more than what it collects from taxes.

Why does the government have to borrow in the first place? That is what government bonds are all about and only the wealthy can afford to buy them in the first place as well as investment firms. The rich earn interest and run the government.

Welcome to corporate slavery since the industrial revolution. Not really free at all and even communism seems a better alternative given that a job is guaranteed, a house is guaranteed, probably some form of transporation, a vacation and other basic needs.

I am not for communism though. I am for social democracy and perhaps even national socialism!

88% of all Housing Benefit Claimants are actually in work. Such is the lack of full-time and or living-waged jobs that so many are living in poverty. 3.2 Million families in work are one months paycheque away from poverty or repossession/eviction. The level of fraud in the the entire benefits system = 0.8%. In most private industry the level is 3.4%. It equates to a figure of £1.2 billion which, is 120 times less than the tax fraud perpetrated by the super-rich and the corporations ie £120 billion per annum. £16 billion in benefits is unclaimed annually. All the above are government figures. The landlords have their mortgages paid for by the low-waged, the sick and the unemployed precisely because there is practically no council housing left. They blame the unemployed for unemployment and the low-paid and homeless for poverty and homelessness. That twisted, perverse logic says that wet streets cause rain. The benefit levels in the UK are the lowest of any pan-European country ... outside of Bulgaria.

Tha bove was posted on my Faceache page, food for thought me thinks

Originally posted by 0mage
Dont worry, those who love welfare so much will be the first to witness the horror it creates. when the government tells them "we own your ass" and you're going on a boat with 5 minutes training with an M4 and a rusty helmet. when you cant say no to anything they command you to do as they massacre ppl for disobeying. because they are uneducated fools, living free off the state.

Nothing is free in this capitalist world. It's always give and take.

so guess where they will take when it's time to claim their due.

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth!

I starred your post because this is quite an interesting theory. Let's just suppose that WW3 is on the cards and I think it is. What better way to get plenty of recruits to go shed blood in strange countries?

Force as many young people as possible onto state dependency with no opportunities to get work, then offer them an 'opportunity', to go fight for their country!

If this is the plan it is working. Just three days ago a young man asked me if there were any jobs available where I work, I said no which is true. Then he said ''I think I might have to join the Army cos I just can't go on like this anymore, I can't get a job''.

I related to how he feels because I felt the same when I was unemployed.