It is obvious TPTB have started their war on information against those spreading the truth.
During the past 10 years I have not met a single individual who, after doing research on the subject, switched from questioning the official narrative of the events of 9/11/2001 to believing the official narrative of those events.. It is always the other way around. Why do you think that is? There are good reasons for this, and I will try to explain this phenomenon right now.
The term "conspiracy theorist", perhaps the most misapplied description in our vernacular, is often used to describe 9/11 truthers. Perhaps that term does apply to a segment of the 9/11 truth movement. But in most cases a more accurate description of 9/11 truthers is probably "expert", or "scholar", or "researcher." You see, much of the doubt cast on the official narrative of the events of 9/11 has not come in the form of speculated accusations, or "theories." In fact, it has come in the form of questions that have been raised after a careful study of the official and undisputed events and details.
Where is the source for this? I can only find info like this...
Originally posted by openyourmind1262
Why can't there be any public access T.V. shows about 911, nation wide, Federal law prevents it. Why?
Watch our TV show, "Investigate 9/11" every Tuesday at 1:00pm on Seattle Community Media public access television (formerly SCAN TV), Comcast cable ch. 77 and Broadstripe ch. 23
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by TDog400
I guarantee that if the towers fell differently, people such as yourself would be saying that the difference in nearly identical circumstances is proof of a conspiracy. Your evidence is purely in your mind, and that is why the conspiracy will never reach the mainstream. That's what I keep stressing. Bring real evidence to the table with real facts, not these pseudo facts that your conspiracy idols invent.
Pseudo-facts include, but are not limited to:
- Fire doesn't bring down steel buildings
- Office fire doesn't melt steel
- Thermite was found in the dust
- The towers were turned into dust
All of those are demonstrably wrong given the conditions of the towers. The main factor is that the damage to the towers exposed the structural steel directly to fire. That doesn't happen in the average fire.
Originally posted by easybreezy
reply to post by 911files
The OS movement is those that blindly believe in the ORIGINAL STATEMENT, (hence OS abbreviation).
edit on 24-6-2012 by easybreezy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by GiodanoBruno
Seem to suffer from problems with reading comprehension.....
Did you miss the part saying how Sleigh looked up at the steelwork AFTER the aircraft impact had
destroyed the office
Previous to that the office ceiling was covered up with a drop ceiling with tiles
Concussion from aircraft impact dropped the ceiling tiles and lattice grid down on Sleigh - he had to dig himself
out of the debris
Looking up then notice the steelwork was bare of fireproofing
Again reference CITY IN THE SKY - authors go into detail concening the failing of the fireproofing
As for Code Enforcement - Port Authority is bi-state public agency which is EXEMPT from local building codes
However, I do agree that the WTC7 collapse seems particularly odd. I would not agree that demolition is the ONLY viable explanation for the collapse, but it certainly seems to have about as much merit as the NIST explanation does (to me anyways). But, without direct evidence to support either, I reckon it is just a matter of which makes more sense to a particular individual.
Is it possible that thermite or thermate contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?
NIST has looked at the application and use of thermite and has determined that its use to sever columns in WTC 7 on 9/11/01 was unlikely.
Thermite is a combination of aluminum powder and a metal oxide that releases a tremendous amount of heat when ignited. It is typically used to weld railroad rails together by melting a small quantity of steel and pouring the melted steel into a form between the two rails.
To apply thermite to a large steel column, approximately 0.13 lb of thermite would be needed to heat and melt each pound of steel. For a steel column that weighs approximately 1,000 lbs. per foot, at least 100 lbs. of thermite would need to be placed around the column, ignited, and remain in contact with the vertical steel surface as the thermite reaction took place. This is for one column . presumably, more than one column would have been prepared with thermite, if this approach were to be used.
It is unlikely that 100 lbs. of thermite, or more, could have been carried into WTC 7 and placed around columns without being detected, either prior to Sept. 11 or during that day.
An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn't that evidence that there was an explosion?
The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.
Originally posted by 911files
reply to post by kwakakev
Do you know who you are talking too? I don't trust government or the media. Just because you guys have not made your case for any of the alternatives does not reflect on me, it reflects on you. I've watched the video record, listened to the eyewitness accounts. To me it looks just as I described. I don't see evidence of anything else.
Don't blame the audience when you fail to make your case.
Originally posted by goou111
longtime lurker 1st post
just 1 question
why did osama bin laden admit to 9/11? you guys never address this
but theres videos of him proudly admitting that they planned and executed 9/11
but there is no videos of obl saying the american government was behind it
why would he become the most wanted and hated man in the world if he didnt do it
it makes 0 senceedit on 25-6-2012 by goou111 because: (no reason given)