Why silver is set to skyrocket, and how YOU can bring down the fiat system!

Have you been wondering why the price of silver (and gold, for that matter) has stayed relatively low while the world blows up around us? Take a look at one man's reckoning of what the *real* value of silver is at the moment:



That's a hell of a discrepancy. Imagine if more and more people catch wind of this, perhaps with a well-placed article in a major newspaper, and people start demanding physical delivery on a wide-scale basis? TSHTF, that's what. HOLD your metals, people, in your hand.

Another view on the difference between the "spot" price of silver and its actual value (fast forward to 3:20, he's a little rambly in the beginning):



So who's doing all of this market manipulation to hold the price of silver and gold down, and why? Well, here's one angle:

A recent article by Max Keiser, in The Guardian exposed JP Morgan's positions in silver, claiming that the bank is acting as an agent of the Federal Reserve, holding down the price of silver, to buoy confidence in the US dollar. “A lower silver price helps keep the relative appeal of the U.S. dollar and other fiat currencies high. By selling massive amounts of paper silver in the futures market, JPM has been able to suppress the price of the precious metal,” reported Scott Rubin for The San Francisco Chronicle.

JP Morgan also holds massive short positions in silver, according to the Article in The Guardian, upwards of 3.3bn ounces. The company is under investigation over silver price manipulation after whistleblowers alerted the CFTC in November 2009. If the price of silver remains high, or goes higher still, JP Morgan stands to lose a lot of money. It all is a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, if investors lose confidence in the US dollar and buy more silver, JP Morgan will lose on their short position, causing investors to lose even more confidence in the US dollar, causing them to buy more silver.

You want a plan of action to bring the bankers down? Buy physical silver. You want to bring down the fiat economy and expose the fraudulent ponzi scheme? Buy physical silver. You want to float over the tsunami of economic chaos coming? Buy physical silver. You want something of value that's easily portable and widely recognized by common people that will be of value after a collapse? Buy physical [junk] silver (eg: US quarters and dimes from 1964 and earlier, etc). You want a precious metals investment that's actually financially accessible to the little guy who doesn't have $1000 to spend on gold? Buy physical silver.

In short: BUY PHYSICAL SILVER!

Max Keiser lays out how YOU can take part in bringing down JP Morgan and, by association and domino-effect, the entire fiat BS system:

On my show, Keiser Report, I recently invited Michael Krieger, a regular contributor of Zero Hedge (the WikiLeaks of finance). We posited that if 5% of the world's population each bought a one-ounce coin of silver, JP Morgan would be forced to cover their shorts – an estimated $1.5tn liability – against their market capital of $150bn, and the company would therefore go bankrupt. A few days later, I suggested on the Alex Jones show that he launch a "Google bomb" with the key phrase "crash jp morgan buy silver".

Within a couple of hours, it went viral and hundreds of videos have been made to support the campaign.

Right now, silver eagle sales for the month of November hit an all-time record high and the availability of silver on a wholesale level is drying up. The most important indicator is the price itself – holding just under a 30-year high. With each uptick JP Morgan gets closer to going bust or requiring a bailout.

Here's an interesting look at the the value of silver now compared to the historical value, and how the two should (and will) converge at some point. It's a bit long-winded on the "Far And Away" bit, but stick with it, it gets to the point.



[Note: I am nothing more than a well-researched stay-at-home mom, and hold far more rice and beans than silver. I have no personal investment or financial motivation in silver other than a few pre-1965 coins; I am in no way associated with any silver or gold outfits or have any other way of profiting off you buying silver. I'm just sick of waiting for the hammer to fall and want to get on with it.]

The Chart says All SYSTEMS GO -- for Blast off ... buy a truck load if you want.... but I would do it in a hurry --- the chart says this is going to be a faster mover coming - probably next week.
the way to play it is - buy - and put a stop loss at 26.35 for saftey to limit your loss if the chart is a head fake.
it will go up and down and up and down until your stomach has knots --- what your waiting for is a a streak of days that it just keeps going up .... when this happens you put on a trailing stop ... so when it peaks your out with a profit.... its not about being right or wrong - its not even about the price - its about numbers and the forces needed to move those numbers up and down...
if you have a profit - lock it in by raising your safety stop up with the price and when your ready to cash in - put a trailing stop to get out at the top.... also Fast Stochastic you cant learn enough about this indicator - it is real sensitive to manipulation - use the Weekly Fast stochastic to enter and exit your trades.....

Oh and your not suppose to use their system - you might win... lord heaven forbid. www.philsgang.com
oh another thing - when you get giddy - sell, thats your inner sell all signal... trust the giddy and get out.

I'll have to read this later. I already heard that gold and silver are set to sky rocket. I wish I had the money to buy some. I wish I bought some gold 10 years back when I heard on late night infomercials to buy gold since the price was going to go extremely high. They said to buy actual gold not gold bonds, and hold for the long term. I wanted to back then, but never could. The news I'm hearing now is that it is still going to go up much more than most expect.

Really what is one to do if one can't get a hold of gold and silver, and the dollar plummets big time? I heard many reasons why the dollar could seriously fall from the dollar being in a dollar bubble about ready to burst as the housing bubble did to China buying up all the gold to try to eventually make their currency the reserve currency to replace the US dollar. Many more economic scenarios, which I just barely have a grasp on.

I used to be a silver junkie, sold at the top. It is way too rigged. Owning gold and silver has never freed man from bankers and control. As far as I can see bitcoin is a lot more exciting in my book. Once you actually understand how it works

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bitcoin is what > ? its not metal, and its a measure of value thats totally invisible and it trades in fiat currency and you cant spend it freely - metals trade the same as oil as food as bitcoin.... so whats the difference it goes up and down like everything else - it just has nothing behind it exect some process time that has already been expended. I've been around the block - and Metal is Money always has been always will be... over 5000 yrs of history to back that up...

Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
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bitcoin is what > ? its not metal, and its a measure of value thats totally invisible and it trades in fiat currency and you cant spend it freely - metals trade the same as oil as food as bitcoin.... so whats the difference it goes up and down like everything else - it just has nothing behind it exect some process time that has already been expended. I've been around the block - and Metal is Money always has been always will be... over 5000 yrs of history to back that up...

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And in that 5000 years has man ever been free from the clutches of moneychangers or governments...... No

Buy silver and HOLD IT! I'm not advocating or even a fan of trying to make quick money off the markets for anything, much less metals. I'm saying buy silver and hold it for a while, until you either *need* to sell it or you have that gut feeling, after all the s**t goes down, that you need to get out of metals before they plummet (which, until we have a new metals-backed currency and everything is stable again, won't be any time soon).

As far as metals being the safe investment---take a look at that last video, and understand how insanely undervalued silver is at the moment. There is just *no way* it can sustain its low prices for a whole lot longer. I'm not putting time frames on it, as silver seems to be steady right now and might continue for a while longer depending on how successful they are at suppressing it and how successful the campaign to buy silver is, or how wary people become of inflation. You'd expect to see a rise in metals with all of the bombs going off in Europe, but there's a lot of short covering going on and this can't last. Once the price hits its roof, and Europe starts circling the drain, it will feed itself until the price is through the roof and the printing presses are working nonstop, which makes the purchasing power of those metals even more, and the spiral goes on until the system comes down. And then, fin.

Originally posted by mayabong


And in that 5000 years has man ever been free from the clutches of moneychangers or governments...... No

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But in those 5,000 years, did people have the insane communication power of the internet? Nope.

We have the power now, in so many ways that we take for granted. We have a way of rallying our "troops" from all corners of the globe, in real time. Think about that power.

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I just read charts - it doesnt matter to me if its coal or wheat or stocks -- the whole thing is a cesspool. but I know its a cesspool - if you discover the Fast Stochastic on the Weekly Chart you will discover the tool they use. to may it a cesspool. and I do not suggest buying and holding anything - I let the thing I am investing in tell me when to enter and when to exit. and on Friday I made this post....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I think its BS if you ask me -- its bits and bytes of zero value once expended. its a number that has no value other than a fiat one, your trading one fiat system you dont control for another fiat system you dont control.
smelling the coffee yet >?

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So you predicted where to buy, but where do you predict to sell? What do you think the roof of silver is, and what conditions do you think would have to be met for that price to be realized? What I'm saying is buy silver and don't sell it just because it hits $40.00 in a few months, I'm saying buy it and hold it so when the paper system comes down, you have something of value. Making money is one thing, surviving is quite another.

Selling silver when it hits a temporary high before we've brought down the entire system (or AT LEAST JP Morgan) would castrate the effort. Buy, and hold until the roof is on fire.

Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
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I think its BS if you ask me -- its bits and bytes of zero value once expended. its a number that has no value other than a fiat one, your trading one fiat system you dont control for another fiat system you dont control.
smelling the coffee yet >?

Bitcoin is not fiat. (see definition) It is hard coded to have 21 million and that is all. Bitcoin has kept a solid value even with an inflation rate of 50% or something ridiculous. I'm willing to bet that it's price will surpass silver around the end of this year when the inflation rate gets cut in half. Don't get me wrong I still have some metals but just find bitcoin fascinating.

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It would be nice to be in control of what system we use next, and perhaps the voices of reason against fiat will finally be heard far and wide thanks to the internet. But failing that, holding metals will still get you through the transition in much better shape than anyone else holding paper or bytes so easily made worthless by TPTB.

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thats simple - but you need to learn how to use the Fast Stochastic, when it gets above 80 your almost out of go gas - but it can stick above 80 for a very long time rocketing upward..... when it crests and heads back below 80 its going down how far and how fast depends on a lot of factors - the time frames are like seasons - you cant grow corn in the middle of winter - is the way I look at it - but if your interested in learning it www.philsgang.com

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I want you to buy a Big Mac with it... give it a try... and it does not exist if its in a computer its a electrons - which means it does not exist.

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I love the idea of Bitcoin, but its biggest vulnerability is the same as the system we are currently headed towards with cashless banking: it completely depends on not only an electrical grid, but also the free flow of information on the internet. There is absolutely no option to have some Bitcoins stored in a coffee can in case the power goes out, or a hurricane hits, or a solar flare takes out the grid.

In a vacuum, Bitcoin would be great. In practice, it's just as shaky and easily manipulated by those with greater computer skills than ourselves as our current system. You can't hack metals, and they require no infrastructure. They have intrinsic value.

Originally posted by 00nunya00
You want a plan of action to bring the bankers down? Buy physical silver. You want to bring down the fiat economy and expose the fraudulent ponzi scheme? Buy physical silver.

We posited that if 5% of the world's population each bought a one-ounce coin of silver, JP Morgan would be forced to cover their shorts – an estimated $1.5tn liability – against their market capital of $150bn, and the company would therefore go bankrupt.

Within a couple of hours, it went viral and hundreds of videos have been made to support the campaign.


[Note: I am nothing more than a well-researched stay-at-home mom, and hold far more rice and beans than silver. I'm just sick of waiting for the hammer to fall and want to get on with it.]

Why in the wide world of sports would you deliberately try and crash something THAT WE ARE GONNA WIND UP PAYING FOR?

Why in the wide world of sports would you deliberately try and crash any system that PROVDES for many families? WHO ARE THEN TAXED AND PAY FOR EVEN MORE FAMILIES TO _SURVIVE_?

All you dummies that are asking, no BEGGING, for the end of the world, are plain dumb ID 10 T's .

I can't believe someone hasn't taken you to task for this. And I'm sorry, this isn't a personal attack. I for one don't want TEOTW to happen yet. Millions will die. And you WILL be sorry.

Mark my words.

Currency is like grease in a machine, it just makes the trading easier. I install floors of all types, Now, what if I had to trade flooring work for everything I need. So I go to the doc to get a check-up and put down a new wood floor. Now, he doesn't need a floor any more, he needs groceries. I could go to the grocer and buy and then trade to the doc, but isn't it easier to trade money for his service and then he can trade to the grocer when he's ready.

The buying power of a dollar has more to do with you and your confidence in it, and what you believe it is worth, than an actual "physical value" Even if they crash the dollar, they have only crashed mine and your confidence in accepting them. If everyone continues accepting and trading them, then the damn banks can go to hell.

Do you suggest we trade seashells?

I don't mean to attack you, honestly. I'm just tired of seeing people advocate for the destruction of the best system man has ever tried.

Or, alternatively, you know exactly what you're advocating. In which case I say you can go sell your wares elsewhere. (To keep it within civil decorum and TOS. Apologies mods.)

Originally posted by rbnhd76


Why in the wide world of sports would you deliberately try and crash something THAT WE ARE GONNA WIND UP PAYING FOR?

Because WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT!!! We're paying for them to live high on the hog while they suck the life blood from our economy and our very lives, all for the privilege of continuing to pay compounded interest to them and walking on eggshells hoping they don't pull their stacks of paper back in or we all suffer!

News flash, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY STARVING UNDER THIS SYSTEM!!! And furthermore, it's *already* going to crash, every economist will tell you that when you present them with the maths, but in the meantime we're trading more and more of our sovereign wealth to a few fatcat bankers in exchange for their worthless paper in the hopes that somehow that will prop the system up long enough for someone to come up with a better idea! Guess what? No ideas are coming so long as they hold the purse strings!

I for one am tired of waking up to financial doom porn every morning in the headlines, and would rather GET ON WITH IT and let the system reset itself back to realistic levels so my children (and I have two) don't have to deal with it on an even bigger scale in 20 years. YES, crash the system because it's weaving all across the road right now in a school zone and won't give up the wheel.

Take me to task, indeed.

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i'd like to read your thread in detail when i have the time... but i'd like to add something to the thread that is of relevant significance.

Silver and Gold are heralded as trade and currency's foundation because of many reasons... one specific and never relenting reason, through the ages.. which i should like to state here loudly.. is that they are valued most because of their BIOLOGICALLY ACTIVE PROPERTIES.

silver is one of the most potent antibiotic elements on earth.

gold has the capacity to adhere to the ends of DNA strands acting as a 'shoelace cap' to the tip of telomeres.
fraying telomeres at the end of DNA strands cause genomic degradation, ie: the aging process.

gold = a method of biological immortality.

silver = a strong shield of protection against viral and bacterial infection.

this is information that has been held secret by the ruling powers for millennia.

and is the reason we value THESE SPECIFIC commodities of shiny white and yellow metal above other shiny white and yellow metals.