A Question for the Obama Haters, page 3


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reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 03:00 AM by MrWendal
reply to post by CB328



No I do not believe any of the Presidents or Candidates you listed would have vetoed that bill.

So why do I single out Obama? I don't single him out. It doesn't matter if it was Obama or anyone else, I would still speak out against it. However, the difference between the Candidates and former Presidents you mention and Obama is that Obama DID sign it, the other did not.

So it is not a matter of singling out Obama- it is a matter of the fact that it was signed at all. It is like being punched in the face. What matters most? Who hit you or the fact that you got hit? And if you were the person who hit me.. am I "singling you out" by calling you on it?

Now that being said, the NDAA is not the only reason I despise Obama. He is liar- plain and simple. Go back and listen to all those campaign speeches about "transparency" in his administration, following the Constitution, the rule of law, and the list goes on and on. It was all lies. He has followed the same agenda of previous Administrations.



reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 03:03 AM by Honor93
reply to post by FractalChaos13242017

well said and these needed re-stating with emphasis
Woodrow Wilson also wrote a letter to the American people apologizing for signing the charter, as he feared that he had just sold the nations soul to the devil.
totally agree it's over-looked that Wilson both realized and publicly apologized for his error creating the FedReserve.

I would suggest that Saudi Arabia is at the center of the Death Star, and actually in regards to geographic positioning, as well as economic positioning... this is more appropriate.
i'd second that suggestion. got my first clue around 1989/1990
boy wasn't i shocked (NOT) to find out so many of the 9/11 participants were actually Saudi.

THE CHOICE IS NOT BETWEEN ROMNEY AND OBAMA!
which is another reason ppl not in/of this country shouldn't be voting in our elections.
there is always another option even if there is no other person on the ballot, but i digress, most Americans don't realize this either.
thanks again.


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 03:39 AM by The Sword
reply to post by FractalChaos13242017



Too much caps lock in that post, not to mention the silly name.

This country is forever doomed when it comes to using communist/socialist as meaningless slang terms. When will most people grow the # up and read a dictionary before they go calling things/people socialist/communist?


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 04:54 AM by habitforming
reply to post by xuenchen



Someone is a huge Michael Savage fan.
Your post is lacking any actual substance. All you have done is insult people and it is not even original. You stole your entire rant from a fake doctor on AM radio.
I would love to see you add some substance.

MICHAEL SAVAGE IS NOT A DOCTOR.

Lyle has absolutely zero support in his field.

Hitch your wagon to those two shining stars!
edit on 24-6-2012 by habitforming because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 05:06 AM by BIHOTZ
reply to post by CB328



We don't single him out. HE was elected and was elected based on promises that he did not fulfill in actions or even in spirit. He made himself out to be the people´s champion when in fact he was just another usurper to the throne of a true American.

To me a president should reflect the people he wishes to serve. I don't know who he was representing or whom he was acting in the interests there of, but he failed if it was the American people.

I don't appreciate the loaded question by the way. Your OP makes it seem like anyone who doesn't support their great leader is a fanatic. Anyone who doesn't think like you is inherently wrong for not appreciating the nothingness that Obama was as a president.

He failed, and as one of his people, I protest his re-election, since I don't want him to fail again.


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reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 05:06 AM by FractalChaos13242017
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to
post by FractalChaos13242017



Too much caps lock in that post, not to mention the silly name.

This country is forever doomed when it comes to using communist/socialist as meaningless slang terms. When will most people grow the # up and read a dictionary before they go calling things/people socialist/communist?



I'm confused on what you're talking about... I only used caps once, and I will say it again.

THE CHOICE IS NOT BETWEEN ROMNEY AND OBAMA!

Silly name? I'd have to disagree... I don't think it needs explaining... it is, what it is. Either you get it, or don't... if you do, and still don't like it, good for you, thank you for sharing your opinion.

As for meaningless slang terms, I couldn't agree more. I pride myself on trying to use words with in context and retaining their meaning. I think it's hilarious when people use the words such as socialist or communist, especially when they claim communism and include Marx, or even libertarian socialism and anarchy.... I swear, I am yet to see one person on ATS use these words correctly.


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 10:07 AM by djv1985
reply to post by CB328



thats not really an argument for me as i live in the UK but why does that matter, Obama is the President so surly the person in the white house who is signing in all the bills that are taking away America's rights and freedoms (one of the most free countries in the world or at least was and yes i know the UK is losing their rights to) should be the problem and on a side note i hate the fact that anyone who attacks Obama is either told they are racist or that those supporters of Obama always use Bush's time in the white house to protect Obama, he claimed that he would have the most transparent administration and yet lately he is ducking and diving to protect that Holder bloke. he promised change with the message YES WE CAN well sadly he went back on his word and sadly NO WE CANT, if he is elected for a second term America will lose so much of their rights that China would call for UN intervention.



reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 11:59 AM by niceguybob
I'm 56 years old.
I was in 2nd grade when Kennedy got whacked err assassinated. Since Kennedy, I haven't heard or seen anything about any President that makes anyone happy.
It's Republican was better (Reagan)
Democrat was better(Clinton)
Republican(BushSr.)
Democrat(Obama's better then Bush Jr.)

I'm so fed up with this left right paradigm.
dictionary.reference.com...

AND? We have NO options? We're STUCK with this? And too BAD?
We the people deserve better then the leadership we're offered as choices.

And? You Democrats and Republicans? Shame on you!
How can you vote party over substance?

We're doomed.

Cheers!


Thanks for the rant. I feel better.


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 12:16 PM by bphi1908
reply to post by CB328



reply to post by CB328





So my question for the anti-Obama fanatics is this- do you honestly believe that Bush, McCain or Romney would have vetoed this bill? And if the answer is no, then why single out Obama?


Why single out the President of the United States for something he either did or did nothing to prevent from becoming law? Is this an actual post?

Bush, McCain and Romney are not responsible for this because two of them have not been president and the other was out of office when this bill went through, presidents in power tend to be singled out a lot, not hypothetical presidents.

Actual presidents should be responsible for the actions they've taken, THAT is why the current president is responsible for not vetoing this bill and not John Adams, Woodrow Wilson or George Bush.


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 12:19 PM by bphi1908
reply to post by niceguybob



Originally posted by niceguybob
I'm 56 years old.
I was in 2nd grade when Kennedy got whacked err assassinated. Since Kennedy, I haven't heard or seen anything about any President that makes anyone happy.
It's Republican was better (Reagan)
Democrat was better(Clinton)
Republican(BushSr.)
Democrat(Obama's better then Bush Jr.)

I'm so fed up with this left right paradigm.
dictionary.reference.com...

AND? We have NO options? We're STUCK with this? And too BAD?
We the people deserve better then the leadership we're offered as choices.

And? You Democrats and Republicans? Shame on you!
How can you vote party over substance?

We're doomed.

Cheers!


Thanks for the rant. I feel better.


Could not agree with you more! I even felt better after that post.


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 01:36 PM by Kovenov
reply to post by CB328



What are the qualifications to be an anti Obama fanatic?


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 03:28 PM by Honor93
reply to post by niceguybob

so, that's why the big shift from essays to multiple choice ... i knew there was a greater reason than what was told to the public.

These are your choices, pick one ... hmmm, it's been working for years, why change it now ??? (sarcasm)


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 04:52 PM by phroziac
reply to post by CB328



Are you blind? Bush was a freakin moron too. Infact i voted for obama cause i hated bush and am not so straight. Bisexual infact.

Obama equals bush equals romney equals mccain.

Anyone who cant see this is not looking at the facts.

Im sick of people tellin me i only dislike obama cause hes black too. Im sick of people tellin me i didnt complain about bush.

Bush was more fun to make fun of though


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 05:03 PM by avatard
reply to post by CB328



YOUDONT UNDERSTAND...WE HATE THEM TOO....NOT JUST OBAMA.... The ONLY person against the NDAA is RON PAUL who is hardly perfect, but compared to obomney Ron Paul is so far ABOVE the crap obomney pushes...


reply posted on 24-6-2012 @ 05:29 PM by RealSpoke
reply to post by xuenchen



Why would you listen to anything Micheal Savage says? He is a zionist disinfo agent.
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