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70 facts Obama does not want you to see

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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:20 PM

I love how you decide to post a list without even researching that most of those things don't have anything to do with the president. You realize that the President needs congressional approval to make progress right?

The Republican party has gone on record and said that their goal was to embarrass the Obama administration and make Obama look bad so he is only limited to one term. So my question to you is, if you are not voting for Obama then who are you going to vote for?

Does it infuriate you as well when Republicans block bills that would require women to be paid the same as men? Or how about when they passed the Patriot act? Or their corporate tax cuts?

Have fun with your trickle down economics

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Rocsgirl
reply to post by havok[/it o

Couldn't agree with you more on that!!

I titled this thread according to my source, but I'm new to ATS so maybe I just haven't found my creative spin yet on threads.....

Creative spin? LOL, you are new. The posters don't "spin" here,this isn't Facebook or FOX NEWS. You come with facts and arguments to back those facts up or you will be ripped/flamed with facts in turn especially when talking politics cause propaganda doesn't fly here.

Welcom to ATS by the way

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:25 PM

Originally posted by Rocsgirl
So to sum it up based on what I am reading from replies, is that Obama has no say, no power, whatsoever, has been unable to pass anything through Congress that he wished to pass, therefore.... my question to you, who wish to vote Obama a second term (not assuming you all do or anything):

What in the world would be the point of Obama having a second term then?? Clearly he's not in control, so what would make anyone think a 2nd term would even be worthwhile?? How would things change.... what, all of a sudden Obama will have the power to be able to move his agenda, convincing the Congress to approve them? How would his 2nd term be different??

Quite correct. He would be a lame duck with no political influence - and more importantly no chips to cash in. Worthless move for this country. Romney doesn't send a chill down my leg (sorry Chris Matthews) but there is no way he could be worse. No way. But the Bush-bashers will tell you otherwise because Bush is the reason Obama is a failure. Excellent logic.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Rocsgirl

Originally posted by Rocsgirl
Bush left us in a bad situation indeed, but Obama could have turned things toward the better, after all, he had the complete faith and trust of nearly an entire nation...

With a GOP congress hell-bent on making him fail from the first night of his inauguration, it mattered not that the entire nation or even the world was behind him. The GOP congress is who you can blame for him not being able to get his agenda passed. The GOP doesn't care that the country is failing, as long as it brings Obama down.

I know it's tempting to want to put the blame on one person, but Obama has nothing to do with the price of gas, let alone many of your other numbers. The president simply doesn't have that much power. Think a little more deeply.

Completely false. The GOP did not win back the house until 2010. Before then he had it all and couldn't get anything done. MSNBC much?
edit on 23-6-2012 by flashtrum because: (no reason given)

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:36 PM

Originally posted by muse7

I love how you decide to post a list without even researching that most of those things don't have anything to do with the president.
The Republican party has gone on record and said that their goal was to embarrass the Obama administration and make Obama look bad so he is only limited to one term.

You make a statement regarding research, then state that the GOP "has gone on record" and said their goal was to "embarrass" Obama.

Please provide your sources of research on this topic, given that you do your research. Please quote an elected official or member of the RNC. If siting a publication, please post link. I'm not saying it's a lie, I'm saying I don't believe you. If you can show me, I'll give you props ASAP.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:39 PM
Trying to pin the current economic status of the US/World on the current admin is partisan tripe. These are SYSTEMIC issues, perpetuated by both parties, over decades. To pretend that these issues, which have been decades in the making, and have been ushered into being by both R's and D's is all the result of the past four years is, simply, moronic.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:48 PM
reply to post by Rocsgirl

Originally posted by Rocsgirl
I have a really hard time seeing the good equaling out the bad, I really do.

I believe you and I honor your choice to vote or not vote for whomever you wish.
I understand your position. Obama has been somewhat of a disappointment to me, too, but I think we each have to weigh out what's important to us and do what we think and feel is right.

reply to post by flashtrum

Originally posted by flashtrum
He's done a lot? How exactly does ending a policy regarding gay people advance us economically or with our relations with other countries?

Did I say that that particular policy advanced us economically? I don't think I did... And you're entitled to your opinion about the other stuff. I have a different opinion.

reply to post by flashtrum

Originally posted by flashtrum
Completely false. The GOP did not win back the house until 2010.

You like to accuse people of saying things they didn't say and then argue with them about it, am I right?

reply to post by stanguilles7

And the angels sang, "Ahhhhhhhhh"...
This downfall can't all be blamed on Obama, any more than it can all be blamed on a Bush or Clinton or anyone back to Nixon, IMO.

edit on 6/23/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:52 PM
Here is a more comprehensive list....218 reasons NOT to vote for Obama. Let the Obamanoids debunk this...

Foreign Policy

1. Continued the practice of indefinite detentions for alleged terrorists without review (link, link)

2. Dropped threat to veto NDAA (link) and signed it, encoding severe government power advances into law (link)

3. Announced “Withdrawal Plan” that leaves more troops in Afghanistan than when he started (link)

4. Authorized military intervention in Libya without the approval of Congress (link)

5. Did this after emphatically stating as a presidential candidate that the president did not have the authority to do that (link)

6. Defended intervention in Libya by redefining the word “hostilities” (link)

7. Revived “Prompt Global Strike” weapons system, considered too controversial by Bush Administration (link)

8.Announced a $60 billion sale of arms to the Saudi Arabian dictatorship, the largest arms deal in history (link)

9. Sold arms to abusive Bahrain regime and used legal loophole to avoid telling Congress about it (link)

10. Granted a waiver allowing four countries to continue receiving US military aid even though they use child soldiers (link)

11. Argued that the widespread use of Predator drones is a justifiable form of self-defense (link)

12. Claims ACTA could be ratified without Congressional approval and that it would override US law (link)

13. Ordered drone attacks in Yemen (link)

14. Ordered a cruise missile and cluster bomb attack in Yemen that killed women and children, suppressed the civilian casualties, and then imprisoned a journalist who revealed the truth (link)

15. Would seek international permission for intervening in Syria before consulting Congress (link)

16. Broke promise to reject the Military Commissions Act (link)

17. Continuing policy of maintaining thousands of troops at over a thousand military bases around the world (link)

Honorable Mention: Backed off on his promise to close the prison at Guantanamo (link) (Yes, I know you can blame Congress for this. But he backed away from it while Democrats still controlled Congress, and his promise to close Guantanamo was often cited as a reason to vote for him.)

Civil Liberties and Homeland Security

18. Authorized the assassination of US citizens abroad, an unprecedented declaration of executive power (link)

19. Says American citizens can be targeted for killing without judicial review (link)

20. Assassinated an American citizen without due process (link) (Yes I know he was a terrorist who wanted to kill me, but the government can make mistakes and I don’t want the government having the power to make mistakes about killing American citizens with no limits)

21. Two weeks later, assassinated that citizen’s 16-year-old son (link)

22. Announced the rules about assassinating American citizens, basically telling the other branches of government whats its own limitations are (link)

23. Requested thousands of secret spying warrants (link)

24. Defended the use of warrantless wiretapping (link)

25. Tried to stop the Supreme Court from hearing a challenge of warrantless wiretapping (link)

26. Pushed to overhaul federal law making it easier to wiretap (link)

27. Refused to declassify a secret memo regarding the president’s power for warrantless spying (link)

28. Defended the use of warrantless GPS vehicle tracking, which was ruled unconstitutional (link)

29. Continued and expanded Bush’s police state (link) (You could really make multiple reasons from all the examples in this article)

30. Allowed TSA to continue and expand its outrageous security theater (link)

31. Specifically requested additional money for more TSA full-body scanners (link)

32. Helped pay for surveillance of Muslim neighborhoods (link)

33. Unaccountable, unjustifiable drug war spending (link)

34. Heavy crackdown on medical marijuana (link)

35. Raided Gibson Guitar Factory without filing charges (link)

36. Supports mandatory DNA testing of those arrested for crimes, regardless of whether they have been convicted (link)

37. Allowed weapons to pass into the hands of Mexican drug cartels which were later linked to deaths of American border patrol agents (link)

38. Sealed records on the death of one of those agents (link)

39. Signed Trespass Bill, making it a federal offense to be “disruptive” at political events (link, link)

40. Pushing for creation of “Internet ID” for every American (link)

41. Signed extension of the Patriot Act with snooping provisions intact (link, link)

42. Invoked “government secrecy” against a lawsuit by AT&T customers “who claim federal agents illegally intercepted their phone calls” (link)

43. Raided homes of peace activists in Minneapolis (link)

44. Wants warrantless access to cell phone location data (link)

45. Sought access to private e-mail correspondence without needing to go through a judge (link)
Ethics and Transparency

46. Broke promise to allow five days of public comment before signing bills, repeatedly (link)

47. Broke promise to broadcast health care negotiations on C-SPAN (link)

48. Broke promise to reduce earmarks to 1994 levels (link)

49. Broke promise to create a public “contracts and influence” database (link)

50. Issued signing statement that he would not abide by provisions in a budget bill regarding “czar” funding (link)

51. Issued signing statement that he did not need to abide by provisions addressing aid for the IMF and World Bank (link)

52. Did this despite promise not to use signing statements to nullify instructions from Congress (link, link, link)

53. Tried to force a New York Times reporter to reveal confidential sources (link)

54. Claimed the government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal law, a position more radical than the Bush Administration’s (link)

55. Failed to disclose visits by industry executives while crafting health care reform legislation (link)

56. Tried to block a ruling that White House visitor logs had to be released to the public (link)

57. Eventually released the records and claimed that release was evidence of his “transparent” government, despite the fact that he went to court to keep them secret (link)

58. Frequently met with lobbyists off campus to hide from the public and keep visits out of White House visitor logs (link)

59. Tried to block a court-ordered release of detainee abuse photos (link)

60. Cited exceptions to open records laws thousands of times more than Bush (link)

61. Repeatedly invoked “state secrets” privilege to get cases thrown out of court after criticizing Bush for doing the same (link)

62. Blocked Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests regarding ties with Monsanto (link)

63. Refused FOIA request to reveal who was on the Intelligence Oversight Board (link)

64. Aggressively fighting FOIA requests with long delays, blocking release whenever possible, and using bolder arguments than the Bush administration (link, link, link)

65. Appointed 5 RIAA lawyers to the Justice department (link)

66. Appointed serial tax dodger Timothy Geithner to be his Treasury Secretary (link)

67. Appointed Monsanto executive Michael Taylor to the FDA (link)

68. Appointed H&R Block CEO Mark Ernst to the IRS, where he wrote tax regulation to require licensed tax preparers. Congress never gave the IRS authority to do that, but this regulation benefits H&R Block, who had lobbied for it. (link)

69. Told the Air Force it was illegal for their families to read Wikileaks (link)

70. Did all of these things after promising that his administration would be “the most open and transparent in history.” (link)

Honorable Mention: Accused of violating subpoenas related to thousands of documents (link)
Health Care Reform

71. Required American citizens, for the first time, to purchase a product from a private business through the “individual mandate.” I don’t care if Republicans came up with the idea first; I don’t care if you need it to make the health care bill work; and it’s not like state car insurance, either. It is (I believe) a severe and unconstitutional overreach that sets a dangerous precedent of almost unlimited government, and conservatives and liberals alike should agree that this insurance company hybrid system is a far worse health care solution than either free-market or government-run “single payer” systems. (link)

72. Argued the individual mandate penalty was not a tax increase to make the bill more attractive and then argued that the penalty was a tax increase to justify its constitutionality under the commerce clause (link, link).

73. Cut a benefit program from health care reform that was supposed to reduce the overall cost after realizing it would actually dramatically increase it (link)

74. Established unreasonable requirements on organizations and then granted over 1500 waivers from those requirements to those with the connections or resources to get approved (link), with labor unions receiving the overwhelming majority (link)

75. Broke promise to require employers to provide seven days paid sick leave (link) (From my bias I’m actually glad this promise was broken. I’m including it because the pro-bama list actually uses this promise as a reason to vote for Obama. Seriously? I could make up 218 nice-sounding promises. That’s not a reason to vote for me. But if I become president and break those promises? That’s definitely not a reason to vote for me again.)

76. Broke promise to allow imported prescription drugs (link)
Budget and Finances

77. Broke promise to cut deficit in half by the end of his first term. (link) (All of Obama’s deficits are larger than all of Bush’s, and not just because of the inherited crisis – his projected deficits for the next four years are still much larger.)

78. Broke promise to repeal Bush tax cuts for high earners, signing bill to extend them (link)

79. Broke promise that families making less than $250,000 a year would not see “any form of tax increase” (link)

80. Broke promise to end no-bid contracts over $25,000 (link)

81. Loaned $500 million at a low rate to an unsustainable green company that went bankrupt (link)

82. The program behind that loan has only created a few thousand jobs compared to the 65,000 promised (link)

83. Reneged on accepting public financing limits for his presidential campaign (link)

84. Broke promise to expand the child and dependent care credit (link)

85. Broke promise to end income tax for seniors making less than $50,000 a year (link)

86. The Senate has not passed an annual budget for over 1000 days, including the second year Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress, (link) and a 2011 budget proposal from the White House was so bad it was rejected by the Senate 97-0. (link)

87. Broke promise to form an international group to help Iraq refugees (link)
Ethics and Transparency, Part II: Whistleblowers

88. Prosecuted whistleblower Bradley Manning for disclosing video, cables, and intelligence reports (link)

89. Obstructed investigation into Bradley Manning’s inhumane treatment (link)

90. Prosecuted whistleblower Thomas Drake, who helped reveal an ineffective $1.2 billion NSA contract that could have been done for $3 million (link)

91. Prosecuted whistleblower Stephen Jin-Woo Kim for “allegedly leaking nuclear information about North Korea” (link)

92. Prosecuted whistleblower Jeffrey Sterling for “allegedly disclosing unauthorized national defense information” (link)

93. Prosecuted whistleblower John Kiriakou for “allegedly leaking to reporters the names of two agency operatives” (link)

94. Launched a criminal investigation against Paul Hardy for blowing the whistle on safety problems with a breast cancer detection device (link)

95. These prosecutions are more than all previous presidents combined (link)

96. These prosecutions are happening after Obama formerly praised whistleblowers, represented one as a young law and vowed to strengthen whistleblower protection laws (link, link).
Various and Sundry Administrative Overreaches

97. Used executive order to establish “Intellectual Property Enforcement Advisory Committees” (link)

98. Seized and suspended websites without due process (link, link)

99. Gave permits to BP and other oil companies, exempting them from environmental protection laws (link)

100. Granted waivers to 10 states that failed to meet education standards if they accepted administration-approved policies (link, link)

101. Forced CEO of General Motors to step down (link)

102. Announced the Home Affordable Modification Program which the New York Times called a “colossal failure” (link)

103. Sued four states over immigration laws (link, link, link, link). I can’t find solid proof one way or the other, but I’m fairly sure this is more states sued than by any previous administration.

104. Did not tell Arizona about plans to sue; Arizona governor found out through an interview Secretary of State Clinton did in Ecuador (link)

105. Plans to sue Apple and other publishers over e-book pricing (link)

106. Record amount of prosecutions under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, pushing the boundaries and getting multiple cases thrown out of court (link, link, link)

107. Raided Amish farm selling raw milk (link)

108. Brought a lawsuit against a manufacturing company for creating jobs in a non-union state (link) and then refused a congressional subpoena for information about that lawsuit (link)

Honorable Mention: banning imported rifles (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Cut off funding to a Texas health program as retaliation for a state anti-abortion bill even though 29 other states have similar laws and continue to receive funding (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Tried to ban children from farm chores despite a huge decrease in youth farm injuries (link)
Ethics and Transparency, Part III: Lobbyists

109. Granted waivers to lobbyists to get around his own supposed restrictions on lobbyists (link)

110. After attacking auto, financial, and health lobbyist Steve Ricchetti for his political connections, Obama appointed him as Biden’s top aide (link, link).

111. Appointed former lobbyist Islam Siddiqui as America’s Chief Agriculture Negotiator (link)

112. Appointed telecom lobbyist Eric Holder to attorney general (link). Holder was also a top fundraiser (link)

113. Appointed education lobbyist Tom Vilsack to secretary of agriculture (link)

114. Appointed defense lobbyist William Lynn to deputy defense secretary (link)

115. Appointed anti-tobacco lobbyist William Corr to deputy health and human services secretary (link)

116. Appointed energy lobbyist David Hayes to deputy interior secretary (link)

117. Appointed Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson as chief of staff to treasury secretary Geithner (link)

118. Appointed variety lobbyist Ron Klain as chief of staff to Joe Biden (link)

119. Appointed lobbyist Mona Sutphen to deputy White House chief of staff (link)

120. Appointed civil rights lobbyist Melody Barnes to domestic policy council director (link)

121. Appointed Hispanic lobbyist Cecilia Munoz to director of intergovernmental affairs (link)

122. Appointed union lobbyist Patrick Gaspard to political affairs director (link)

123. Appointed lobbyist Michael Strautmanis to chief of staff to the president’s assistant for intergovernmental relations (link)

124. Appointed lobbyist Erik Hirschhorn to the Commerce department (link)

125. Appointed lobbyist Michael Punke to represent the US before the WTO (link)

126. Appointed lobbyist Jacqueline Barrien to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (link)

127. Appointed lobbyist Emmitt Beliveau to Deputy Assistant for Advance at the White House (link)

128. Appointed lobbyist Cassandra Butts to Deputy Counsel at the White House (link)

129. Appointed lobbyist Martha Coven as Special Assistant at the White House (link)

130. Appointed lobbyist Phillip J. Crowley as assistant secretary for public affairs at the State Department (link)

131. Appointed Fannie Mae lobbyist Thomas Donilon as Deputy National Security Adviser at the NSA (link)

132. Appointed lobbyist Derek Douglas as Special Assistant for Urban Affairs at the White House (link)

133. Appointed lobbyist Jocelyn Frye as Director of Policy and Projects at the Office of the First Lady (link)

134. Appointed education lobbyist Gabriella Gomez to assistant secretary at the Department of Education (link)

135. Appointed lobbyist Krysta Harden to assistant secretary at the Department of Agriculture (link)

136. Appointed lobbyist Alan Hoffmann to Deputy Chief of Staff to the vice president (link)

137. Appointed AT&T lobbyist Sean Kennedy as special assistant at the White House (link)

138. Appointed MPAA lobbyist Jon Liebowitz as chairman of the Federal Trade Commission (link)

139. Appointed lobbyist Robert Litt to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (link)

140. Appointed lobbyist Demetrios J. Marantis as deputy U.S. trade representative (link)

141. Appointed lobbyist Dennis McDonough as deputy assistant to the president (link)

142. Appointed lobbyist Leon Panetta as director of the CIA (link)

143. Appointed Audubon Society lobbyist Robert Perciasepe to deputy commissioner of the EPA (link)

144. Appointed lobbyist Daniel Poneman to deputy secretary at the Department of Energy (link)

145. Appointed lobbyist Peter Rundlet to deputy assistant at the White House (link)

146. Appointed lawyer lobbyist Kathleen Sebelius as Secretary of Health and Human Services (link)

147. Appointed lobbyist Susan Sher to chief of staff at the Office of the First Lady (link)

148. Appointed lobbyist Dana Singiser to Special Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs (link)

149. Appointed lobbyist Nancy Stoner to Deputy Assistant Administrator for Water at the EPA (link)

150. Appointed lobbyist Thomas Strickland to assistant secretary at the Department of the Interior (link)

151. Appointed lobbyist Karl R. Thompson as a lawyer at the Department of Justice (link)

152. Appointed lobbyist John Trasvina to assistant secretary at the Department of Housing and Urban Development (link)

153. Appointed lobbyist Dan Turton to Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs at the White House (link)

154. Appointed lobbyist Christine Varney to Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust at the Justice Department (link)

155. Appointed lobbyist Richard Verma to assistant secretary at the State Department (link)

156. Appointed lobbyist William J. Wilkins to Chief Counsel at the IRS (link)

157. Appointed Tom Daschle to health and human services. Daschle was not technically a lobbyist but received millions advising health insurers and hospitals (link), and was also severely delinquent on his taxes (link)

158. Not only did he appoint all these lobbyists, but he did this after vowing to ban them (link)

Honorable Mention: Hired Keystone pipeline lobbyist as a top adviser to his reelection campaign (link)
Petty Hypocrisy

159. Insisted that Americans should not be required to buy health insurance during campaign before championing health care bill that does just that (link)

160. Signaled support for taxing employer health benefits after severely criticizing McCain for the same thing (link)

161. Slammed Bush for high gas prices in campaign and now is upset that the GOP is doing the same to him (link) (Note: I don’t think the President has that much power either way)

162. Changed his mind about opposing Super PACs and urged fundraisers to support them (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Now trying to expand the Export-Import Bank, one of the few government programs he said should be scaled back as a candidate, calling it “corporate welfare” (link)

Honorable Mention: Telephoned a liberal activist when she was called a slut by a conservative commentator but didn’t do anything about a conservative commentator who was called a slut by a liberal commentator. He also accepted a $1 million Super PAC donation from Bill Maher, who has called conservative women worse things. (link, link)
Ethics and Transparency, Part IV: Top Fundraisers

163. Appointed top fundraiser Cynthia Stroum as ambassador to Luxembourg, who wasted time and money hunting for a fancy residence and remodeling its bathrooms (link)

164. Replaced Stroum with top fundraiser Robert Mandell (link)

165. Appointed top fundraiser Nicole Avant as ambassador to the Bahamas, who was largely absent from post (link)

166. Appointed top fundraiser Donald Gips as ambassador to South Africa, while his company received millions in government stimulus contracts (link)

167. Appointed top fundraiser Dan Beyer as ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein (link)

168. Appointed top fundraiser Julius Genachowski to chairman of the FCC (link)

169. Appointed top fundraiser Steve Spinner to the Energy Department. Spinner also happened to push for the loans to the now-bankrupt Solyndra (link)

170. Appointed top fundraiser Matthew Barzun as ambassador to Sweden (link)

171. Appointed top fundraiser Jeff Bleich as ambassador to Australia (link)

172. Appointed top fundraiser Richard Danzig to the foreign policy board (link)

173. Appointed top fundraiser William Eacho as ambassador to Austria (link)

174. Appointed top fundraiser Howard Gutman as ambassador to Belgium (link)

175. Appointed top fundraiser Scott Harris to the Department of Energy (link)

176. Appointed top fundraiser William Kennard as ambassador to the European Union (link)

177. Appointed top fundraiser Spencer Overton as the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General (link)

178. Appointed top fundraiser Thomas Perrelli as Associate Attorney General (link)

179. Appointed top fundraiser Abigail Pollack to the Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino (link)

180. Appointed top fundraiser Charles Rivkin as ambassador to France and Monaco (link)

181. Appointed top fundraiser John Roos as ambassador to Japan (link)

182. Appointed top fundraiser Francisco Sanchez under the Secretary of Commerce for International Trade (link)

183. Appointed top fundraiser Alan Solomont as ambassador to Spain and Andorra (link)

184. Appointed top fundraiser A. Marisa Chun as deputy associate attorney general (link)

185. Appointed top fundraiser Gregory Craig to the White House counsel (link)

186. Appointed top fundraiser Norman Eisen to the special counsel to the president for ethics and government reform (link)

187. Appointed top fundraiser Michael Froman as deputy assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs (link)

188. Appointed top fundraiser Mark Gallogly to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board (link)

189. Appointed top fundraiser Max Holtzman as senior adviser to the Agriculture secretary (link)

190. Appointed top fundraiser James Hudson as director of the European bank for Reconstruction and Development (link)

191. Appointed top fundraiser Jeh Johnson to the Department of Defense (link)

192. Appointed top fundraiser Samuel Kaplan as ambassador to Morocco (link)

193. Appointed top fundraiser Nicole Lamb-Hale to the Commerce Department (link)

194. Appointed top fundraiser Andres Lopez to the Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino (link)

195. Appointed top fundraiser Cindy Moelis as the director of the Commission on White House Fellows (link)

196. Appointed top fundraiser William Orrick as counselor to the assistant attorney general (link)

197. Appointed top fundraiser John Phillips as chairman of the Commission on White House Fellows (link)

198. Appointed top fundraiser Penny Pritzker to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board (link)

199. Appointed top fundraiser Bob Rivkin to the Transportation Department (link)

200. Appointed top fundraiser Desiree Rogers as the White House social secretary (link)

201. Appointed top fundraiser Louis Susman as ambassador to the United Kingdom (link)

202. Appointed top fundraiser Robert Sussman to the Environmental Protection Agency (link)

203. Appointed top fundraiser Christina Tchen as director of the White House Office of Public Engagement (link)

204. Appointed top fundraiser Barry White as ambassador to Norway (link)

205. Appointed top fundraiser Preeta Bansal to the Office of Management and Budget (link)

206. Appointed top fundraiser Laurie Fulton as ambassador to Denmark (link)

207. Appointed top fundraiser Fred Hochberg as President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States (link)

208. Appointed top fundraiser Valerie Jarrett as senior adviser to the president (link)

209. Appointed top fundraiser Kevin Jennings as assistant deputy secretary of Education (link)

210. Appointed top fundraiser Steven Rattner as Treasury Department adviser (link)

211. Appointed top fundraiser Miriam Sapiro as deputy U.S. trade representative (link). Sapiro was also a VeriSign lobbyist (link)

212. Appointed top fundraiser Vinai Thummalapally as ambassador to Belize (link)

213. Appointed top fundraiser David Jacobson as ambassador to Canada (link)

214. Appointed top fundraiser Ronald Kirk as U.S. trade representative (link)

215. Appointed top fundraiser Rocco Landesman to the National Endowment of the Arts (link)

216. Appointed top fundraiser Susan Rice as ambassador to the United Nations (link)

217. Gave jobs to over 200 top fundraisers after vowing to banish “special interests” (link)

218. Appointed as many top fundraisers to administrative posts in 2 years as Bush did in 8 (link)

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:55 PM
reply to post by auraelium

Those are all far more substantive issues to blame Obama for than the economy.

Republicans blame Obama for the economy, because they know they cant actually criticize him for the myriad things that they themselves support, like you list.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 05:04 PM
reply to post by howie0

I agree with you, but clearly people use the TITLE of threads to "spin" or maybe a better word would have been "spark" interest and sway readers to "click" on the thread. Plus, just in the little time I've been here, I notice how much people are drawn in to arguments (and such) and then FEED on it.

That is all I meant by the remark. Of course, every word I speak will be torn apart into pieces and will be used against me (or for me) in any way to either make me look like a fool because I'm not as "politically intelligent" as all of you and "haven't done my research" as much as you. Well you know what, I'm NOT the most knowledgeable about every detail of politics and the news, but I have done enough research FOR ME to decide what's truth FOR ME. It's really quite simple and easy to see, I don't need to read every action Obama has or has not taken or every article on the web. It's quite easy to determine a mindset with only a few unnerving details that unveil the character of a man.

The article with statistics was an interesting find, not something I was blindly assuming was all Obama's doing. Clearly, the writer wrote the article in an anti-Obama light, but saying these were 70 things Obama doesn't want you to see.... NOT that Obama caused all of them.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 05:21 PM
Average American: Since 2007/2008 The whole world has changed. We were lucky we weren't laid off but struggle to pay the bills and keep going. Stocks crashed with children's college money and retirement money, we got stuck with a house we were trying to flip and had to become terrified landlords. That has been a very difficult odessy. If we lost our job we would lose both homes.... Some friends took years to sell their house, and finally settled on a house swap for a house and cash. They ended up landlording the house from the swap.
They rented it out rent to own, which lowered their property taxes on the rental.

Food and gas prices went into orbit. I have teenagers to feed, Auldis is the it grocery store now. With other items you can not get many of the products because they cheapened the quality and quantity, or they stopped making as much of it. Yard sales have gained in popularity and selling all the extra clutter items in the trader papers.

Salaries stagnated. Bonus and raises stoped five years ago. 401K plans were stopped, health care down scaled, people were laid off at work, which means my husband did the work of of three to four people. Company shelf inventory and stock supplies were lowered to the bare minimum. All company travel came to a complete end. The reward cards for airlines and hotels started revoking the rewards miles we had already earned due to inactivity. That's just robbery in my opinion. We started cleaning out closets for holiday gift giving, and cut back on anything and everything we could.

Why is it we cant get a proper CEO to run the government? Economies are so complicated now, a politician should have a degree in finances. We the people are tired of paying for war. Free energy discoveries would turn the economy over for new jobs developing new technologies. That is all.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 05:22 PM
reply to post by muse7

I just wanna say, you are assuming I'm Republican, which I'm not.

I actually voted for Obama in 2008..... I even cried. I considered myself a Democrat all my life.

I won't be voting for Obama or Mitt Romney. I won't go against what I believe is true. Is that OK with you?

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 06:32 PM
reply to post by Rocsgirl

Don't matter whether it's brown or white bread it's still a s**t sandwich.
Good thread

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic
reply to post by Rocsgirl

Only had to read a few of these to identify the nonsense...

42 - According to one survey, 42 percent of all American workers are currently living paycheck to paycheck.

48 - Shockingly, at this point 48 percent of all Americans are either considered to be "low income" or are living in poverty.

Direct result of the economic and political policies ("let's start lots of wars") of the Bush administration.

eh the wars...even after all this time have amounted to very little in direct comparison to what we spend on medicare/medicaid and all the other entitlement programs...which are a dems wet dream when it comes to free money for pet projects. just look at Barney Frank Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 08:42 PM

Originally posted by LoonyConservative

eh the wars...even after all this time have amounted to very little in direct comparison to what we spend on medicare/medicaid and all the other entitlement programs...

Yes, if you combine 'all other programs' and compare it to defense spending, you have an argument. Of course, people have actually paid INTO many of those programs. But the Defense budget is only outcome, and increases every year.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:02 PM
reply to post by Open_Minded Skeptic

what bush policies specifically?

name one please.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:13 PM
Barack Obama SAVED US !!!! Obama was the virgin born son of Weezie and George Jefferson...Obama had 12 kids in 12 different states. Obama gives his life for our sins...

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Rocsgirl
True, Obama didn't create many of the numbers and "statistics" reported in this article. But you cannot ignore this:

$5,000,000,000,000 - The U.S. national debt has risen by more than 5 trillion dollars since the day that Barack Obama first took office. In a little more than 3 years Obama has added more to the national debt than the first 41 presidents combined.

46,405,204 - The number of Americans currently on food stamps. When Barack Obama first entered the White House there were only 32 million Americans on food stamps.

16,000,000 - It is being projected that Obamacare will add 16 million more Americans to the Medicaid rolls.

$4300 - The amount by which real median household income has declined since Barack Obama entered the White House.

The rest just shows you how our economy in general is a huge failure. So are we going to continue regurgitating the same supposed solutions? Nothing Obama is proposing is going to fix any of this IMO...

When Bush went into office the government had a 5 trillion dollar surplus.
When he he left office there was a 5 trillion dollar deficit.
He managed to spend 10 trillion dollars.
Why aren't you complaining about that?

The food stamp claim is faulty. A quick google search will show that.

We asked the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food and Nutrition service for month-by-month figures going back to January 2001. And they show that under President George W. Bush the number of recipients rose by nearly 14.7 million. Nothing before comes close to that.
And under Obama, the increase so far has been 14.2 million. To be exact, the program has so far grown by 444,574 fewer recipients during Obama's time in office than during Bush's.

16 million more americans will be added to medicaid rolls? Don't millions of americans get added every year anyways as they get older? that's just common sense.

Median household income?

I found this chart and that's been on the decline for years now.
just look at the decline. under clinton wages went up. But when bush went into office the started to go down again.

Look I understand you're not hapy with Obama. But look at what Obama inherited. And congress isn't helping by not passing a budget. It's a load of crap. You want to blame someone. Don't blame the executive branch. Blame congress.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 10:51 PM

When Bush went into office the government had a 5 trillion dollar surplus. When he he left office there was a 5 trillion dollar deficit. He managed to spend 10 trillion dollars. Why aren't you complaining about that?
reply to post by grey580

Why do I need to be complaining about it?
But--- if this is true, and Bush spent $10 trillion in 8 years and Obama has spent $5 trillion so far, then it seems to me that Obama is just as bad as Bush?

16 million more americans will be added to medicaid rolls? Don't millions of americans get added every year anyways as they get older? that's just common sense.

Medicaid is welfare. Medicare is for people 65 years or older. Don't confuse the two.

posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 11:57 PM

$3.59 - When Barack Obama entered the White House, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85. Today, it is $3.59.

I call b.s. on this one. I don't believe I have seen gas below $2 in my 15 years of driving. of it said $2.85 maybe I would believe it but not $1.85.

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