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Do you think that the two eyewitnesses who wrote Gospels, and all the people Luke interviewed who were eyewitnesses were lying? All of the Gospels (except John's) were written in the first 35 years after Jesus' death. Do you think the other witnesses would be pretty much all dead?
because there would have been too many witness's to critique certain aspects or call bs on entire account.
Originally posted by Azadok2day
Originally posted by pro-all
I find it rather funny that people would hint that the apostles had no need to document the life of Jesus because they felt he would return in their life time. This alone shows that christianity was flawed from the very beginning. There was no blue print to spread the so-called good news and the apostles were deluded. Everything about this religion doesnt add up for me. If Jesus intended his message to be futuristic and universal, he would put a mechanism in place to achieve that. All we have now are people talking of oral tradition. How do one memorize whole books containing thousands of verses? Isn`t it suspicious that modern christianity as we know it today was founded by Paul, a known murderer instead of one of the apostles? I personally prefer to remain on the fence rather believing a fairy tale.
Deny ignorance do not embrace it , if you had any clue how stupid this statement sounds you would not have posted it . First off Jesus said the end would not come until the gospel was preached to the whole world , sounds like he had a long term idea going on in that statement . Then you state a mechanism was needed for this to happen , uh hello Einstein the bible is here and has more proof of its authenticity than any other ancient document ever . The fact it is poured over by both believer and non believer alike is a testament to its power to provoke thought and change . You sir or madam are a hypocrit that opines out of hate and ignorance , keep up the good work.
Originally posted by knows_but_doesnt
Would any of us send our children to an eternal fire of misery and torment - eternal meaning FOREVER
Originally posted by troubleshooter
Originally posted by aaaiii
reply to post by troubleshooter
I tend to question authenticity when there is no clear provenence. The documentation may be based on earlier records. There is no proof.
Are you looking for confirmation or not?
What you find will depend on your own expectations.
Do you want it to be true or not?
I tend to go with the biblical scholars whether christian or agnostic all agree Jesus existed...
...some accept the supernatural elements some don't...
...but all agree Jesus existed.
As believer in the man, Christ, I have often wondered why his faithful waited 100 years or more to record an historical record of his life.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
Another possibility would be that Revelation (the Apocalypse of John) was written very early on, before the letters of John, and the Gospel of John were written, and that it is close to the time of the Crucifixion of Jesus.
It seems to be more likely that Revelation was actually written by the Apostle John, than the others normally attributed to that person.
Revelation is the first New Testament book cited in an extant writing.