Christ's History ~ Why the Delay In Recording It?, page 6


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reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 09:39 PM by NOTurTypical
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That's why apostles like Peter used a "ready writer" or "amanuensis". Like John Mark or Silvanus. Those were skilled professional trades in that day.



reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 10:21 PM by charles1952
I've looked at the thread title again and it raises many questions for me. First of all, let's accept the OP's position that there was an historic Christ, that's pretty safe. But now the questions.

What do you mean by "delay?" The gospels were written during the lifetimes of the people credited with writing them, three before 70 A.D. and one in the 70-90 A.D. range. Two of them were written by eyewitnesses, Luke interviewed eyewitnesses, and Mark's might have involved what we call "hearsay".

How do we know there was a delay? For example, if you are writing a paper, you might consult other material, interview knowledgeable people, and refer to your rough drafts. Then when you were done, you'd throw out the old stuff (or treat it very casually) in favor of the finished product. I would not be surprised if notes were taken then discarded, or lost over two millenia.

Compared to what? Shouldn't we have all sorts of papers written at the time? Which eyewitness wrote of Caesar's assasination, and where are their accounts? I don't know of any. Same thing with contemporary records of crucifixions. Do we have records of the many who were crucified available today?

Even granted that there were no notes taken by his followers, did all the people Luke interview (within Jesus' lifetime) lie to him?

Why did historians such as Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny write about Jesus and His followers?

I'm not shaken by the comments in this thread. 100% laboratory proof? Nope, there isn't. But we don't have 100% laboratory proof that Edgar Allen Poe was the original writer of "The Raven." There's real evidence on one side, enough so that I'm confident in my belief until there is some evidence to the contrary.


reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 10:51 PM by NOTurTypical
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Unless your a liberal, illegal immigrant, or gay.


Check which Greek term for "love" He used. Greek has 7 different ones, English just 1. Might clarify a great deal for you my man.


reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 10:53 PM by LDragonFire
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Is this like the argument that wine in ancient times was just juice?

Perhaps you would explain what love means in Ancient Greek?



reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 10:56 PM by NOTurTypical
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Is this like the argument that wine in ancient times was just juice?

Perhaps you would explain what love means in Ancient Greek?


No, this has nothing to do with wine. Greek is extremelly precise, English is absurdly lazy. In Greek there are 7 different words and definitions for the one English term love.

Here are the four the NT uses:


Here


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reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 11:06 PM by NOTurTypical
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"The Jew first then the Gentile"

Tell you what, did the OT prophets ever declare the Moshiach would bring salvation to the nations?? Or better yet, what lesson did you learn from the parable of the vineyard?

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reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 11:11 PM by NOTurTypical
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Don't laugh because you stumbled on a remez, that's the point. What was this lesson in the parable of the vineyard? And did the OT prophets ever declare the Messiah's mission would also be to the "nations"??

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reply posted on 23-6-2012 @ 11:14 PM by iIuminaIi
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Don't laugh because you stumbled on a remez, that's the point. What was the lesson in the parable of the vineyard? And did the OT prophets ever declare the Messiah's mission would also be to the "nations"??


I don't know, Please explain
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