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Yahweh......was an atomic bomb dropped by a UFO!!!!!

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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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Ok, forget everything I've said so far. I've changed my mind. Just watch this video and see how obvious it is that the Biblical desciptions of Yahweh fit perfectly an atomic bomb....and let's assume it was dropped by an alien commanded UFO to make it even more dramatic.

www.youtube.com...

Deuteronomy 4:11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness.

Lamentations 4:11 The LORD has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that consumed her foundations.

Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

Exodus 19:16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled.

Exodus 24:17 To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.

Jeremiah 25:37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the LORD.

Revelation 9:2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.

Exodus 20:18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance.

Exodus 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:


I am now also denying there is an elephant in the room because I don't want to be the odd one out. It's too scary! I just want to be one of the sheeple again!
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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It fits perfectly with a volcano too.



Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

Doesn't mean he is. It just describes how fierce he is.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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Wait, I just realized how ridiculous this thread sounds.

I regret responding
edit on 22-6-2012 by Lionhearte because: It was a double post.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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God made the rules. God can change and or break the rules. He can do anthing. Nothing is off the table.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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OMG, I just read the 23rd Psalm and found out that he's actually a giant shepherd!

Wait!! In Genesis, he's just some random guy who meets Abraham - a drifter!

Wait again!! In Genesis, he also rains fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from himself in Heaven! He's a clone!

Crikey - I don't mean to poke fun, but finding some similar definitions of manifestations in the bible is simply ridiculous to try to cast the god of Israel in such a narrow light, as there are SO MANY theophanies. The wandering pillars of smoke and fire after the Exodus, a burning bush, men recognized as Him, and many others.

Once he even talked out of Balaam's ass! (not what you're thinking!)

Sure, it's definitely safe to spin it as the god of the hebrews using the majesty and power of natural events to manifest or represent himself, but you cannot bottle him up in one of those as a means of explaining the entire phenomena. Crikey...



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by Lionhearte
reply to post by TheFogHorn
 


It fits perfectly with a volcano too.



Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

Doesn't mean he is. It just describes how fierce he is.


It fits perfectly with a volcano because it is a volcano. Well done on saying it as it is.

It DOES mean he is. The volcano verses are anthopomorphised....given human characteristics...and attributed to him. Fire came out from before HIM.....HE unleashed his fiery wrath......smoke came out of HIS nostrils.....

Face it and deal with it. You will survive it and you will, if you have a sense of humour, be able to laugh about it in a couple of weeks once you get used to it.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by PeterWiggin
reply to post by TheFogHorn
 
OMG, I just read the 23rd Psalm and found out that he's actually a giant shepherd!

Wait!! In Genesis, he's just some random guy who meets Abraham - a drifter!

Wait again!! In Genesis, he also rains fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from himself in Heaven! He's a clone!

Crikey - I don't mean to poke fun, but finding some similar definitions of manifestations in the bible is simply ridiculous to try to cast the god of Israel in such a narrow light, as there are SO MANY theophanies. The wandering pillars of smoke and fire after the Exodus, a burning bush, men recognized as Him, and many others.

Once he even talked out of Balaam's ass! (not what you're thinking!)

Sure, it's definitely safe to spin it as the god of the hebrews using the majesty and power of natural events to manifest or represent himself, but you cannot bottle him up in one of those as a means of explaining the entire phenomena. Crikey...



Giant Shepherd.....he led the Hebrews (the flock) out of Egypt with his pillar of smoke by day and pillar of fire by night.

Soddom and Gomorrah......destroyed by volcanic eruption spewing balls of sulphar (brimstone) down on them from 'heaven', which was originally just the cloudy mass around the top of the volcano.

Genesis was written after the events of Exodus (the start of the religion) occured. It included folklore (Noah's ark, Soddom) plus made up filler designed to give credibility to the religion.

'angel of the lord'......made up.

Was Pele worship more than just volcano worship? Was Pele omnipotent, omnipresent, etc? Is he real? Is he the Lord of the whole world? Is he the one true god? Surely the Pele congregation believed he was.

What you need to realise is that the first time the Hebrews laid eyes on their deity he looked like a fire on the top of a mountain. It is the very start of the religion.....Exodus.....that is important
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:28 PM
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Sure. And then he was all sorts of other things described in all sorts of other ways - I would say these you've presented, as well as others, much better applying to a UFO scenario...although interpretation there is very much open.

To simply shoehorn the accounts into a societal memory of seeing a simply natural occurrence - however rare - denies many other accounts and takes a severely short-sighted approach. How on earth does a volcano explain Ezekiel's wheel? Why do you think the accounts of the "Angel of the LORD" are all simply made up (while accepting the other accounts at face value and as mere misinterpretation)?

You are simply not accounting for all factors in this equation.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by PeterWiggin
reply to post by TheFogHorn
 
OMG, I just read the 23rd Psalm and found out that he's actually a giant shepherd!

Wait!! In Genesis, he's just some random guy who meets Abraham - a drifter!

Wait again!! In Genesis, he also rains fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from himself in Heaven! He's a clone!

Crikey - I don't mean to poke fun, but finding some similar definitions of manifestations in the bible is simply ridiculous to try to cast the god of Israel in such a narrow light, as there are SO MANY theophanies. The wandering pillars of smoke and fire after the Exodus, a burning bush, men recognized as Him, and many others.

Once he even talked out of Balaam's ass! (not what you're thinking!)

Sure, it's definitely safe to spin it as the god of the hebrews using the majesty and power of natural events to manifest or represent himself, but you cannot bottle him up in one of those as a means of explaining the entire phenomena. Crikey...



Oh man, I just read Psalms 91 and apparently God is actually a big chicken, (or perhaps a turkey), who lives in a fortress. Probably Army.


edit on 22-6-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Firstly, I don't speak Spainish.

And secondly the video is of the Chilean Volcano, how does that prove Yaweh was an atomic bomb>?



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Don't spend too much time trying to figure it out. This person is obsessed with volcanoes. Go to the recent posts and threads she has authored and they are all about volcanoes. And 8 out of 10 of her posts are plugs to her blog about volcanoes. Pretty much it.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


Don't spend too much time trying to figure it out. This person is obsessed with volcanoes. Go to the recent posts and threads she has authored and they are all about volcanoes. And 8 out of 10 of her posts are plugs to her blog about volcanoes. Pretty much it.


If i were Sigmund Freud, i'd be tempted to say he/she suffers from sexual frustration with all this talk about volcanoes blowing and lightnings and thunderings.



posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 10:30 PM
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For those with an intelligent mind, the Moses smoke and fire thing at Midian (Yes, In Saudi Arabia) was Rift Zone and Volcanic related, but compounded by nearby oil fields there in Saudi Arabia.

You didn't get the typical lava flow or Basalt flow issues from a typical volcanic release, you got the effects of the Rift zone's underground volcanic heat driving off the volatile vapors from underground oil dome effects. This appeared on the surface as a fire and lots of petrochemical releases coming out a vent to the top of a high mountain and the effect lasted for decades.

What was going on at Midian was rather special in the grand things of the natural world, yet similar to the tar deposits that would break loose from the bottom of the Dead Sea from similar effects of oil deposits and rift zone induced heat. Dead sea tar was used around the area to make seals for ships, glue on the Blue tiles for the Tower of Babylon, and even to make the Bagdad Battery seals.

The same Rift effects drove the Dead Sea Crossing and there is a geologic fault right under the area of the Red Sea Crossing that still shows up today as a higher area that is litered with old Chariot parts on the elevated sea floor.

Volcano isn't quite right to discribe the Moses Mtn of Fire effects, but it is somewhat related. The East African Rift zone is lined with lots of Volcanos and Basalt flows, and the road to Mecca is lined with lots of those effects. Moses area was underground rift heat driving off emissions from oil domes in the fringe of the Saudi Oil Fields, which made the smoke and fire.


In the grand scheme of things this was assigned to be god by Moses, but the Creator gods were long gone in the times of Moses, but the discriptions of other Creator god themes that were more real still lingered in that day.


I would suggest all watch this video on the area, which is very good as it shows even a golden chariot wheel on the sea floor, plus the ruins around the Moses Mtn. near Midian.




www.christianbook.com...

The Exodus Revealed: Search for the Red Sea Crossing, DVD
Questar Video / DVD



I'd also recommend several to read up on the geology of this region, looking at the Rift Zone plate issues, the Saudi Oil Fields near Midian, and the many basalt and volcanic effects on each side of the East African Rift zone that drives the Prongs of the Red Sea and the issues of the Dead Sea being far below sea level.

Not doing that and becoming better informed could well prove embarrasing.




edit on 22-6-2012 by MagnumOpus because: The Natural Features of the area of Midian, Dead Sea, and Red Sea Crossing are essential



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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You can find any meaning in any book. It's not hard. But it's quite clear to anyone rational that what the OP poses is not the intended nor unconscious / symbolic meaning of the Bible.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


Don't spend too much time trying to figure it out. This person is obsessed with volcanoes. Go to the recent posts and threads she has authored and they are all about volcanoes. And 8 out of 10 of her posts are plugs to her blog about volcanoes. Pretty much it.


If i were Sigmund Freud, i'd be tempted to say he/she suffers from sexual frustration with all this talk about volcanoes blowing and lightnings and thunderings.


There are a LOT of sexually frustrated people out there....Freud used to be one of them...

In the NIV Achaeological Study Bible, Mount Sinai is said to be a volcano.
On page 96 of The Urantia Book Yahweh is said to be just one of hundreds of nature gods but with a volcano as its deity.
In 'Moses and Monotheism' by Sigmund Freud, Yahweh is said to be a volcano god.
In 'Mount Sinai a Volcano' by Charles beke, Mount Sinai is said to be a volcano.
In 'The Invention of God' by Bill Lauritzen, the role of volcanoes is highlighted in the establishment of 'god'.
In 'Mythology's Last Gods', William R.Harwood describes Yahweh as a volcano god.
In 'The Christ Conspiracy', Acharya S describes Yahweh as a volcano god.
In 'The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets by Barbara Walker, Yahweh is said to have been a volcano god.
In 'The Masks of God Volume 3 Occidental Mythology' by Joseph Campell, Yahweh is described as an Arabian volcano god.
In 'The Jews: Story of a People' by Howard Fast, Yahweh was described as a volcano.
In 'Mass Psychology', Sigmund Freud says Yahwey was a volcano god.
In 'Atheism in Christianity' by Ernst Block, Yahweh was said to be a volcano god.
In 'The Oxford Companion to the Bible' by M.Coogan and B.Metzger, Yahweh is described as a volcano god.
In 'Psychoanalysis and Religios Experience' by W.W.Meissner, Yahweh is described as a volcano god.
In 'All About Adam and Eve' by Robert Gillooly, Yahweh is described as a volcano god.
In 'The Genesis of Misconception' by Paul John, Yahweh is described as a volcano god.
In 'The Autobiography of God' by William Harwood, Yahweh is described as an extinct volcano god.
In 'Adieu to God' by Michael Power, Yahweh is described as originating from a volcano god.
In 'Freud and Moses' by Emauel Rice, Yahweh is described as a volcano god.
In 'Moses the Egyptian' by Jan Assman, Yahweh is described as a volcanic demon.
In 'Eschatology in the old Testament' by Donald E. Gowan, Yahweh is described as a volcano or storm god.
In 'Water for a thirsty land' by H.Gunkel and K.C.Hanson, Yahweh is described as a volcanic deity.
In 'The Divine Invasion' by Philip Dick, Yahweh is described as probably a volcanic deity.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by PeterWiggin
reply to post by TheFogHorn
 
OMG, I just read the 23rd Psalm and found out that he's actually a giant shepherd!

Wait!! In Genesis, he's just some random guy who meets Abraham - a drifter!

Wait again!! In Genesis, he also rains fire on Sodom and Gomorrah from himself in Heaven! He's a clone!

Crikey - I don't mean to poke fun, but finding some similar definitions of manifestations in the bible is simply ridiculous to try to cast the god of Israel in such a narrow light, as there are SO MANY theophanies. The wandering pillars of smoke and fire after the Exodus, a burning bush, men recognized as Him, and many others.

Once he even talked out of Balaam's ass! (not what you're thinking!)

Sure, it's definitely safe to spin it as the god of the hebrews using the majesty and power of natural events to manifest or represent himself, but you cannot bottle him up in one of those as a means of explaining the entire phenomena. Crikey...



Oh man, I just read Psalms 91 and apparently God is actually a big chicken, (or perhaps a turkey), who lives in a fortress. Probably Army.


edit on 22-6-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)


Psalm 91
1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High (VOLCANOES ARE VERY HIGH)
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a] (SHADOW OF VOLCANO)
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, (VOLCANIC MOUNTAIN IS FORTRESS)
my God, in whom I trust.”

3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge; (MOTHER HEN......METAPHOR)
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day, (ARROWS......FIERY BALLS OF BRIMSTONE)
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, (THE SIDE OF THE VOLCANO THAT 'GETS IT')
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked. (SICK TWISTED SATISFACTION AT THE MISFORTUNE OF OTHER CAMPS)
9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,”
and you make the Most High your dwelling, (MOST HIGH....YOUR DWELLING.....VOLCANO)
10 no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent. (FIERY DARTS WILL NOT LAND NEAR YOU)
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra; (SAUDI WAS FULL OF LIONS BACK THEN)
you will trample the great lion and the serpent. (SAUDI IS FULL OF SNAKES)
14 “Because he loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation. ” (ANTHROPOMORPHISED VOLCANO AND SERIOUS WISHFUL THINKING THAT THEY WERE SPECIAL AND WOULDN'T GET IT).

Bad example that one.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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Naaaaa...... they'd detect tons of radiation if it was a new-clear B. Also a volcano does Expl very similar to a NC B. Same types of effects. Like mt saint hellans had the blst power of like 100 hero-she-ma blsts. same cloud that occurs.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by r2d246
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Naaaaa...... they'd detect tons of radiation if it was a new-clear B. Also a volcano does Expl very similar to a NC B. Same types of effects. Like mt saint hellans had the blst power of like 100 hero-she-ma blsts. same cloud that occurs.


Correct. Unfortunately I needed to trick people into saying the word 'volcano' on these forums. Had I said Yahweh was a volcano very few would have agreed with me. As I sneaked in the suggestion, without it blatantly coming from me, more people mentioned the likelihood the descriptions are of a volcano. This issue is quite clearly more a psychological one than anything else.

I think the post above regarding the geology of Saudi deserves greater attention.

Below is copied and pasted content from my blog for anyone who wants to learn more about this issue.

Simultaneous inversion of P wave arrivals of 262 local earthquakes, recorded in the region of the Dead Sea, was carried out to model the velocity stratification in the underlying crust and uppermost mantle. The resulting tomographic model delineates several large magmatic domes, rising from the lower crust, at depth of approximately 20 km, and ascending more than 12 km into the overlying intermediate crust. Commonly, the domal ascent took place along the boundary faults of the Dead Sea rift. The domes are elliptical in shape, measuring nearly 5 × 15 km in diameter, and are spaced about 20 km apart. Earthquake foci are abundant around the diapirs but rare within them. The occurrence of these magmatic diapirs under the Dead Sea implies anomalously high temperatures with metastable stratification in the lower crust and suggests magmatic upwelling. www.agu.org...

Quote from this article: Much of the intensified major future activity for this region is prophesied to occur along the Dead Sea Transform fault, a continuation of the Red Sea and East African Rift system. This fault runs directly under the Dead Sea, up through the Jordan river valley, the Sea of Galilee, and northward through Lebanon. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah in Abraham's day was in the area south of what is presently the Dead Sea. The Bible's mention of a rain of fire and brimstone from heaven on those wicked cities (See Genesis 19:24 - 29) indicates that the Divine judgment came from sudden volcanic/tectonic activity in a "plain" area which is now the submerged floor of the Dead Sea. There is evidence that the Age of the Dead Sea is only about as old as the time of Abraham. In the days of the Garden of Eden, there was no Dead Sea in that spot, but a river flowed through the rift zone southwards towards the area that is presently the Red Sea (More on that in the Lost Rivers of Eden chapter).

The Dead Sea is only as old as the time of Abraham? I wonder if the Sea of Galilee was formed at the same time as the Dead Sea and if the Gulf of Aqaba was also formed or widened at the same time. Could the Dead Sea, the lowest place on earth, have been formed by the two tectonic plates that meet along this rift (the red line in the map) being pulled apart?



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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Nope, the Bible never uses metaphors or allegories. So it clearly says God has feathers, so He is a chicken, turkey, or maybe even a small duck. You've been on here for weeks proving to theworld that there obviously is no such thing as metaphorical language or allegorical rhetorical devices used.

Big bad chicken, not a volcano. Chicken that spits flames and lives in Army forts.



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