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Ansonia resident Gary Menna Sr. was working in Naugatuck last Thursday night when his son’s girlfriend called.
“They got Max,” she said, referring to Menna’s 21-year-old son, Max Delgado.
Delgado had skipped court on drug and gun charges and had just been snagged by bounty hunters at the family’s Cedar Street residence.
Menna rushed home.
He says he got there about 7:30 p.m. to find his son in handcuffs, covered in cuts and bruises.
What’s more — one of his three dogs was lying in blood and excrement. A bail agent had shot the animal after it bit his partner.
The dog — a 3-year-old pit bull named Bullet — died the next morning on the operating table at Shoreline Veterinary Hospital in Shelton.
“The bounty hunter shot my dog in the back, piercing his abdomen. His intestines were severed,” Menna said.
Menna said Bullet had never bitten anybody before and was simply defending his owner.
“This is a family member I lost,” he said, referring to his dog. “I believe excessive force was used and they definitely did not have a right to shoot my dog on my property.”
Furthermore, he said one of the bounty hunters threatened him after Menna arrived home to find his dog badly wounded.
“I was cursing, swearing,” Menna said. “I was at least a good 10 to 15 feet from this gentleman and he says ‘You better back up before I shoot you also.’”
However, the bounty hunters involved said Menna’s son sicced the dog on them. They said they had no choice but to defend themselves.
“You could have Tased my son,” Menna said. “You could have Tased the dog.”
The bounty hunters said any injuries to Delgado were sustained because he kept fighting them. Adams said they don’t carry Tasers and a can of mace was knocked out of the his hand during the struggle.
Menna also disputed their assertion the dog was essentially being used as a weapon.
“Those dogs can’t be sicced on anybody,” Menna said. “When you’re entering a piece of property with guns in hand, you’re looking for trouble.”
Now, Menna says he’s left with a vet bill between $10,000 and $15,000.
“I want to raise as much hell as possible and I want this to be taken care of,” he said. “I want legal ramifications, civil, whatever is possible.”
Originally posted by MzMorbid
how the hell is it even legal for a 'bounty hunter' to do this?
Aren't the police supposed to break into homes and kill dogs that protect their family?
Can I be a bounty hunter? I promise not to shoot pets.
Bounty hunters are licensed by a special unit of the state police, Hale said. Ansonia police are reviewing Adams’ use of force “to make sure laws were followed.”
“We’ve got to talk to the state with some questions,” Hale said. “Just looking at it from a distance it appears the use of force was proper, but we’ll determine that to make sure.”
Bail enforcement agents are allowed to carry guns after going through a permitting process, just like any other citizen, according to the state police.
“They’re no different than anybody else,” said Lt. J. Paul Vance, a state police spokesman. “They’re really civilians making citizens’ arrests.”
As a general rule, they can enter the fugitive's property, but not anyone else's.
They must be physically aware, by sight or sound, that the fugitive is within the home, and that entering the home will not endanger anyone inside.
When someone accepts bail, they essentially form a contract in which they surrender several legal rights in return for being let out. Part of this agreement allows a bounty hunter to enter your property to re-arrest you if you attempt to escape.
They do not, however, have the right to enter a third party's residence without permission, even if the fugitive is inside. The third party hasn't signed any agreement with the state, so bounty hunters have no special rights when dealing with them.
The home they entered was not the perps house, rather his fathers. Where this lies as far as legality, im not sure.
In the 1873 case of Taylor v. Taintor, the U.S. Supreme Court held that under traditional common law principles, bail bondsmen can basically do as they please to arrest a suspect. “They may” -- and I quote -- “pursue him into another state; may arrest him on the Sabbath; and if necessary, may break and enter his house for that purpose.”
Keep in mind that this power extends only to the fugitive’s own house. The situation is very different if we’re talking about the house of a third party. Virtually every state to have considered the issue has decided that a bail bondsman does not have the right to enter into the house of another person in order to seize a bail jumper. First of all, other people are not parties to the bail contract, so they never agreed to give the bondsman extraordinary powers, such as the ability to enter their house. Also, it’s important to remember that bounty hunters are not policemen -- they don’t have the power to search a person or enter their home on “probable cause.”
but it enters a grey area especially if they dont tell the other residents of the property that they've made a legal agreement