posted on Jun, 22 2012 @ 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Internet Explorer
I've been reading the 9/11 forum since 2008 and before Dave et al (let's just call them "debunkers" ok) arrived on the scene the 9/11
forums were AWESOME for exchanging ideas and theories about 9/11. Then they arrived, with posts absolutely loaded with subtle and not-so subtle
insults aimed at anyone who disagrees with them. I hear more about LAZERS FROM OUTER SPACE and 9/11 HOLOGRAMS and other complete nonsense from Dave
than I've read from any other poster.
Ok but please remember that I am one of these 'debunkers' too. I also arrived in late 2008 once I had quit the Loose Change forums because they
admitted they would moderate in a biased fashion.
I come for debate rather than to shovel my ideas down anyone's throat, but I do understand where Dave is coming from. I also bring up space beams and
holograms and 'vicsims' etc regularly, because I am trying to illustrate to people why they need to be less confident in their own opinions.
This is after all, the driving force behind a lot of conspiracy theorists and 'doubters' in many fields. I'm considering writing a book on it soon
in fact, but I've been planning this for a while!
I can't give a balanced perspective on this though, because obviously I feel that most truth claims are based in incredulity rather than fact, but I
can lend some weight to Dave's posts. I think that it's important people realise that if you rely soley on your own experience or intuition, then
you can end up easily believing ludicrous things, and that after all is his point as I see it.
In my opinion, 9/11 discussion has been severely reduced on these forums in the last few years because people with genuine curiosity and ideas
about 9/11 don't want to be labelled with the ridiculous and now-offensive label of 'truther' and other insults which you guys spout nearly every
I don't think this is fair really. I think you're romanticising the past. There are plenty of groups with little to no 'debunker' presence, and
what happens is that they form an 'echo chamber'. Take cluesforum and reddit.com/r/911truth as an example. Both of these have very little in the way
of debunkers doubting their claims, and as a result the same claims get posted over and over again with very little discussion.
It basically turns into one person posting something 'suspicious' and then a bunch of people agreeing. Repeated forever.
I reckon most people here would welcome convincing and constructive evidence that the 9/11 official story is true, hell I know I would. But you
guys have nothing to offer but insults and straw-men.
That's rubbish man. If you read the history of my posts I have written tens of thousands of words explaining the concepts behind the 'official
story' to people, and explaining why it is the best explanation of the facts.
I'd be more than happy to do this with you, in public or in private. Please don't say that it's just 'insults and straw-men'.