Why man is not allowed into hell, page 31

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reply posted on 4-7-2012 @ 12:56 PM by caladonea

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS

I am wondering in this (place of silence) is the being aware of the life on earth they just left and who they were?

reply posted on 4-7-2012 @ 03:30 PM by jhill76

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS

There is no hell to torment you, your torment if you end up is the place of silence.

This is what I have stated, would you mind sharing how this is all wrong? This is the sitting room I am referring to, no movement, similar to a suspended state to relive what you have done wrong.

Also, the first was not Lucifer, it was Jesus.

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reply posted on 4-7-2012 @ 03:31 PM by jhill76

reply to post by willrush

I sent you a PM.

reply posted on 5-7-2012 @ 11:12 AM by TWISTEDWORDS

reply to post by jhill76

The first was a word and through that word was when Jesus was created yes that is true. The original word(s) was " I AM". This is a very important clause to say and make because through this clause everything can become to be. Now Lucifer was Gods true first creation of a being so in a sense that was the first. There is something that everyone needs to understand. God would do no more harm to your or I then to Lucifer. Why you may ask? Because God is incapable of destroying you completely. He may punish you or let your human body die, but your soul is forever and will not be harmed.

reply posted on 6-7-2012 @ 02:38 PM by jhill76

Originally posted by denver22
reply to post by jhill76

Your no angel ..An angel would be truthfull and not lie or dogde important
questions when asked of you.

I have never made this claim. They may do it to please, and surely they get in trouble for this. If it is done too many times, they are re-assigned, or gone to debrief with Uriel. I am much different.

All cannot be given, when man wants it.

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reply posted on 4-12-2012 @ 12:08 PM by arcticK

Hello JHill,
I started this account just to be able to see if I could reach you. Are you still monitoring this thread? I feel that I was supposed to reach out to you. I am a former Catholic Altar Boy but am now an avowed Atheist. This is my first post on this site as I have been lurking for years.

I have read this entire thread 3 times and gone over some of your other threads and posts. When I do I get the overwhelming desire to reach out to you for answers. Did you know that I was out here lurking and reading and was I supposed to reach out to you? Are we supposed to collaborate on a project?

That's all for now.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 08:37 AM by Jameliel

I'm just curious. I thought Satan was referred to as "the one unspoken of". Here I see his name however. Why the varying ways of referring to him?

Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by trollz

What do you know of why the 1/3rds of the angels and other beings chose to leave God?

To be frank, Satan laid out a long list of things that can be accomplished if this happened. Some others have since wanted nothing to do with him, after they see what he said didn't come true.

Or did they collectively believe that they could somehow overthrow God?

This was promised by Satan, and they believed it.

You said before that these demons know only pure hatred; are they not angels? How/why do they only know hatred? What do they hate?

Father gave them emotion as well. But, they hate all that cling to the true God.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 09:22 AM by drivers1492

Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by poloblack

Why can't he just make it like he wants it?

I see. If he did this, you would have robots, who only do things because they are told. He needs man to learn on his own, think on his own, but while also recognizing him as God. If you knew of perfect, how could you appreciate it? How can one appreciate the day without the night, or the good without the bad.

I have seen this particular response many times over the years and it still bothers me when I come across it. You are stating that it has to be a certain way for a certain reason. My question is this. Why do you believe so strongly yet state the fact that god has limitations? If this being is what is claimed he could have made man without free will and not be robots. How you may ask? I have no clue since I don't claim to be all powerful. But, stating that it could not be done is stating that god can't do it. Which would mean, at least to me, he isn't what believers seem to think and say that he is.

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reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 10:15 AM by jhill76

reply to post by drivers1492

Why do you believe so strongly yet state the fact that god has limitations?

I am not stating that Father has limitations, it is an assumption made by self. I am stating how this current setup is here. If you were to go to the other places, there setup is much different and how man is to operate.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 10:17 AM by jhill76

reply to post by Jameliel

I'm just curious. I thought Satan was referred to as "the one unspoken of". Here I see his name however. Why the varying ways of referring to him?

It will vary depending upon whom I am speaking to. I used Satan here, because most know of him by that name.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 10:18 AM by jhill76

reply to post by arcticK

When I do I get the overwhelming desire to reach out to you for answers.

I see that your post count is not high enough for a private message, so we may speak on here.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 10:54 AM by drivers1492

reply to post by jhill76

Ok I understand your position a bit better now. Perhaps there would be less confusion if you were to clarify your assumptions of what is true and what you know from your contact from above. Thinking back over this thread it makes me wonder how much more of what your stating is simply an assumption as well, which brings into question the message you are trying to convey.

Unless I have misunderstood some of what I have read in this thread you seem to imply you are more than just a human. If this is correct then I really don't understand the assumption part. But I would like it clarified if you have the time.

reply posted on 30-12-2012 @ 12:11 PM by jhill76

reply to post by drivers1492

Perhaps there would be less confusion if you were to clarify your assumptions of what is true and what you know from your contact from above.

When I stated self, I was speaking of you, not I.

You drew that conclusion based on what you read. But, the information I provided is for this setup here on Earth, not what is, at the other places. Each place has their own set parameters. Father limits himself on certain things, but it does not mean he is limited. He has set limitations on himself, so that he does not always step in and tests can be given in their entirety.

reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 04:21 PM by Jameliel

jhill76, with all due respect, I think what a lot of people including myself mean when addressing you, is that you should be more clear on an Earthly basis.

We are here on Earth and typing in the physical, no matter if Earth is also comprised of a spiritual side at all times. You often speak with certainty as if you are 100% sure of the things you say. Many of these topics are at least halfway spiritual. Of course people need to learn some things on their own, but at the same time, when you speak with such certainty, you should back that up. Most people in these threads have at least some seed of faith, but there is a huge difference between being "faithful", and being "naive".

You speak with the authority/knowledge of a spirit, and not like that of a man. Thus some people expect more background and a basis for your answers since you choose to reply in this manner. When you reply with something such as, "I will reply by PM", to something which you initially typed in public, it causes more questions to arise.

Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by drivers1492

Perhaps there would be less confusion if you were to clarify your assumptions of what is true and what you know from your contact from above.

When I stated self, I was speaking of you, not I.

You drew that conclusion based on what you read. But, the information I provided is for this setup here on Earth, not what is, at the other places. Each place has their own set parameters. Father limits himself on certain things, but it does not mean he is limited. He has set limitations on himself, so that he does not always step in and tests can be given in their entirety.

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reply posted on 1-1-2013 @ 11:28 AM by drivers1492

reply to post by jhill76

Ok well I'm still a bit confused. May I ask you for a direct, unambiguous, or mystic answer to a question? What exactly to you claim to be and where exactly is your information coming from? This would make my ability to understand your standpoint and responses a bit better.

reply posted on 1-1-2013 @ 04:39 PM by Jameliel

Originally posted by drivers1492
reply to post by jhill76

Ok well I'm still a bit confused. May I ask you for a direct, unambiguous, or mystic answer to a question? What exactly to you claim to be and where exactly is your information coming from? This would make my ability to understand your standpoint and responses a bit better.

You're never going to get a direct answer on here. You will probably get a PM though, and this will lead to more indirect answers and explanations. You will learn that "Faith, and Patience" are key.

reply posted on 1-1-2013 @ 04:41 PM by Jameliel

Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by denver22
reply to post by jhill76

Your no angel ..An angel would be truthfull and not lie or dogde important
questions when asked of you.

I have never made this claim. They may do it to please, and surely they get in trouble for this. If it is done too many times, they are re-assigned, or gone to debrief with Uriel. I am much different.

All cannot be given, when man wants it.
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You have NEVER made this claim?

reply posted on 1-1-2013 @ 04:42 PM by jhill76

Originally posted by drivers1492
reply to post by jhill76

Ok well I'm still a bit confused. May I ask you for a direct, unambiguous, or mystic answer to a question? What exactly to you claim to be and where exactly is your information coming from? This would make my ability to understand your standpoint and responses a bit better.

The information comes from different sources. Experience with others here, orders from Father (The OP), some others guides, books, and most of the others from above. It just depended on what question was asked, where the information came from.

reply posted on 1-1-2013 @ 05:30 PM by drivers1492

reply to post by jhill76

Ok so what are you.

reply posted on 1-1-2013 @ 06:46 PM by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by drivers1492

Why do you believe so strongly yet state the fact that god has limitations?

I am not stating that Father has limitations, it is an assumption made by self. I am stating how this current setup is here. If you were to go to the other places, there setup is much different and how man is to operate.

"The other places"? Why so vague? If someone claims to have information, and they won't be clear on it, people tend to be suspicious. Those acting in such a fashion indicate that they are hiding something. That is why people are asking for clearer answers. You keep referring people to "father", as though that should be enough. This is your thread; it's normal for people to expect you to address and support your own comments.

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