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Why man is not allowed into hell

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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by NorthKorea
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Who are the ones that are allowed to see and hear?


The ones that Father has allowed. They know whom they are. It is not tied to a certain group/region.




posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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Check your private message. I have to leave, I will return at new light.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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would it be ok to ask you questions in the future??
im sure there will be things that come to mind later on.. and it would be great if i could keep asking you questions! haha



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 04:15 AM
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God was very angry at the rebellion of the Watchers, and decreed that these wayward angels would be locked up underneath the earth in a prison for spirits until the day of judgment. Jubilees and 1 Enoch both speak of this punishment:



Anything they can do to distract you from Father, they will utilize. The Nephilims, are not allowed to wander, as they are locked up in the prison above.



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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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Your link doesn't appear to work



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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I think I'll believe the bible before some random dude online in a conspiracy threory forum. And there's lots of verses that talk about people in hell or going to hell and what it's like there. That includes fire.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Apollo7
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Satan is a Force..that can shapeshift into anything he wants. I just mean he is active on the Earth at this time! I dont feel he has ever been locked up. Satan cannot do anything unless God allows him to do so. In my opinion, Satan was one of the Arch-Angels..whom got into a fight with Arch-Angel Michael over Moses. Arch-Angel Michael threw Satan upon the Earth. It takes 3 Arch-Angels to fight Satans power. All of the Arch-Angels are here on the Earth. There is an un-seen battle going down between humans- Aliens, Demons, Angels are all involved in whatever is going down. I do not know all the answers, and I dont mean any harm by stating what I believe is going on. In my opinion, or just a knowing- The Anti-Christ will rise out of the Middle East in Damascus. He is from the Middle East and has dark hair and blue eyes..and is 34 years old now. The New World Order Agenda started back in 2009. The Battle is decret and un-seen unless you are really paying attention. Pay attention to other humans eyes..they may turn black and then back to normal..this happens so fast..also pay attention to other humans as they walk past you..you may notice them Bowing their Heads..just take a look around..These beings have the ability to jump in and out of the human body. You may see them as small lights going from human to human..or orbs..or shadows..
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Very interesting post, Apollo7. Just out of curiosity, where do you get your information?

Yes, I too believe that Satan is working actively here on earth at the present time. JHill, if you have more details on why you believe Satan is locked up, please expand further.

As for Satan being cast to earth, I've never heard the story of it being done by Arch-Angel, Michael. I've always believed that it was God and that He cast Satan out of Heaven long before Moses. Maybe this link will help to explain my thoughts:

www.gotquestions.org...

I too have often wondered if the Anti-Christ was going to come out of the Middle East in these current times. Do you mind if I ask where you received your description and information stating how old he currently is? That's interesting. As a matter of fact, the description you gave is very similar to the description that Muslims have published regarding their Imam, Mahdi (black hair, green eyes, mole on his forehead, four leaf clover shaped mole on his back). However, they claim that the Mahdi will appear in order to HELP Jesus fight off the Anti-Christ. We know that Jesus doesn't need any help, but the fact that Muslims have created a position for an individual to fight along WITH Jesus tells me that this person will most likely appear on the scene, but not in the position that they think he will. Most likely he'll come as a man of peace (like the Bible says) to the Middle East to ease all tensions for everyone for a period of time before turning on the entire world and claiming himself to actually be Christ himself.

Thanks for the description on demons too.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by Rupert888
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Hello, I am very new to posting on this forum, however I have been reading this particular article with elevated levels of interest. I too would be interested in hearing of the ways of communication


This is a how to guide on speaking to your guardian angel.
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JHill76, as someone mentioned earlier, your link isn't working.

Plus, are we really supposed to be making contact with Guardian Angels? Can't this be dangerous? Don't Guardian Angels only take direction from God himself? Aren't we supposed to go to God to ask for their help? Making contact with Guardian Angels directly seems to be a New Age (or rather a revived ancient) tradition that I've read can lead to contact with other entities who can deceive you.

What are your thoughts on this?



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by NorthKorea
God was very angry at the rebellion of the Watchers, and decreed that these wayward angels would be locked up underneath the earth in a prison for spirits until the day of judgment. Jubilees and 1 Enoch both speak of this punishment:



That's been my understanding too. As a matter of fact, the Watchers are the original guardians and the Nephilim were their offspring. I thought the book of Enoch stated that the Watchers were placed in a prison below and the Nephilim (the offspring) were left on earth as disembodied evil spirits.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by Deetermined
Can you tell us more about the "Sitting Areas" and where souls go after they are done "sitting" in them?


The sitting area is where you go to sit until the appointed time. What happens when they are done sitting is a question for Jesus, as he is the one over judgement.

But, in the sitting area, there is no movement. You are to sit and not interact at all, more like a suspended state. You are given an account of all you did wrong. Arc Uriel is over this area, as well as debrief.


I had a vision a few years ago. In this vision....there are 2 huge doors...and standing on each side of the door are 2 Arch-Angels....they opened the doors for me to see inside. Inside was a huge sea of heads...I saw that they were frozen from the head down...and could not move.

I thought that maybe I was being shown what some people call purgatory.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by NorthKorea
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Do you have die to in order to be sent to Heaven? Or can you travel to Heaven physically?
edit on 22-6-2012 by NorthKorea because: (no reason given)


No, you would have to be pulled by above to go to heaven, your body will stay, but self will go. This is why it hurts the first time, because you are leaving your body.


At the time this happens...can another spirit enter the body that was left behind? Called (a walk-in spirit).....and if so...where does the walk-in spirit come from?

Also....can a person's soul and spirit leave their body for a time....and an evil spirit then enter their body for a time (demon possession) and then eventually the demon leaves the body....and the persons original soul and spirit then re-enters the body?



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by NorthKorea
God was very angry at the rebellion of the Watchers, and decreed that these wayward angels would be locked up underneath the earth in a prison for spirits until the day of judgment. Jubilees and 1 Enoch both speak of this punishment:



Anything they can do to distract you from Father, they will utilize. The Nephilims, are not allowed to wander, as they are locked up in the prison above.



edit on 23-6-2012 by NorthKorea because: (no reason given)


There are three different books of Enoch. They all differ on the prison, above and below.
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posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Plus, are we really supposed to be making contact with Guardian Angels? Can't this be dangerous?


It is just a resource for questions on things. But, it is not supposed to be used instead of speaking to Father, as he is your ultimate guide, and they will remind you of this constantly. You must test the spirits. I talked about that in the thread.
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Don't Guardian Angels only take direction from God himself?


Yes, all orders come from Father directly. They will constantly speak on this.



Making contact with Guardian Angels directly seems to be a New Age (or rather a revived ancient) tradition that I've read can lead to contact with other entities who can deceive you.


This is very possible, that is why you must test the spirits. Take a look at that thread, I explained that in detail.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by NorthKorea
God was very angry at the rebellion of the Watchers, and decreed that these wayward angels would be locked up underneath the earth in a prison for spirits until the day of judgment. Jubilees and 1 Enoch both speak of this punishment:



That's been my understanding too. As a matter of fact, the Watchers are the original guardians and the Nephilim were their offspring. I thought the book of Enoch stated that the Watchers were placed in a prison below and the Nephilim (the offspring) were left on earth as disembodied evil spirits.
edit on 23-6-2012 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)


The prison is a level apart of heaven, in the secrets of enoch, it explains this. There are 3 different versions of Enoch, one is true, the other is a compilation of different sources.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by caladonea

Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by Deetermined
Can you tell us more about the "Sitting Areas" and where souls go after they are done "sitting" in them?


The sitting area is where you go to sit until the appointed time. What happens when they are done sitting is a question for Jesus, as he is the one over judgement.

But, in the sitting area, there is no movement. You are to sit and not interact at all, more like a suspended state. You are given an account of all you did wrong. Arc Uriel is over this area, as well as debrief.


I had a vision a few years ago. In this vision....there are 2 huge doors...and standing on each side of the door are 2 Arch-Angels....they opened the doors for me to see inside. Inside was a huge sea of heads...I saw that they were frozen from the head down...and could not move.

I thought that maybe I was being shown what some people call purgatory.


Yes, some have seen it this way. There are quite a few people on ATS that have posted about seeing it this way, and slightly different.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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At the time this happens...can another spirit enter the body that was left behind? Called (a walk-in spirit).....and if so...where does the walk-in spirit come from?


No, a soldier will immediately enter and stand guard until your return.



Also....can a person's soul and spirit leave their body for a time....and an evil spirit then enter their body for a time (demon possession) and then eventually the demon leaves the body....and the persons original soul and spirit then re-enters the body?


I have seen this happen many times. But, when the alert is sounded, the rooms fills with countless soldiers and they pull that evil spirit out. I also seen a time where an evil spirit, blocked a person from entering their body.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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And there's lots of verses that talk about people in hell or going to hell and what it's like there. That includes fire.


No one is in the fire as of now, it clearly states this in Revelations. I am speaking of below, present day.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by willrush
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would it be ok to ask you questions in the future??
im sure there will be things that come to mind later on.. and it would be great if i could keep asking you questions! haha


Sure, I will be with you as long as needed.



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Periodically I see white and purple lights flash down from heaven....and also I have seen an angel on top of the roof of the building I live in looking down on me as I was outside walking up the hill to the front door..plus I have seen an angel standing in the courtyard outside my kitchen window....and I have also seen one in the hallway...listening outside someone's door...(all this is true)...do you have any insight as to why I have been allowed to see all of this?



posted on Jun, 23 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by caladonea
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Periodically I see white and purple lights flash down from heaven....and also I have seen an angel on top of the roof of the building I live in looking down on me as I was outside walking up the hill to the front door..plus I have seen an angel standing in the courtyard outside my kitchen window....and I have also seen one in the hallway...listening outside someone's door...(all this is true)...do you have any insight as to why I have been allowed to see all of this?


I will private message you on the why. But, those angels are soldiers standing guard. They will be stationed at many places to keep watch over.



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