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Originally posted by chasingbrahman
The real crime here is that I haven't heard of anyone attempting to open a dialogue on the degree to which an opiate addiction differs from any other. The difference is significnt. No. It's enormous.
And as the cost of one illicit opioid is decreasing, the incidence of people turning to it once they're cut off from their prescription painkillers, is rising. Almost 40% more of our seniors are addicted to prescription painkillers than just ten years ago.
But to have this conversation, it must first be admitted that there is great variance in the addictive properties of both licit and illicit drugs. And the United States is not prepared to have an honest converstation about that. Once they're ready, it will be possible to draw clear lines of distinction that everyone will be able to understand.
But heck, we aren't even allowed to discuss it here.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by HandyDandy
Marijuana isn't going to replace opiates. If you're dying and in excruciating pain, weed isn't going to cut it.
Plus most opiates are derived from a plant themselves, the poppy.
Ihe key words are "abuse of narcotics" these are not being taken for pain.
people with real pain do not get the high.
They don't give out opiates only if you're "Dying in excruciating pain".
There is no such thing as "don't abuse it and you'll do fine". Do you think when someone intends to take opiate-based painkillers, that they are looking for a life-threatening, soul-crushing narcotic addiction?
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by swoopaloop
legalize marijuana and these problems go away. Uh oh! This whole post will now be deleted because I said one word.
People who like prescription pain killers, are in the most basic sense, HEROIN users. Don't get me wrong, I would very much like to see what you suggest happen, but it will NOT fix the "problem" of people using oxycodone, hydrocodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, morphine, codeine, etc. I honestly don't think there is a opiate user out there that would be like "yeah sure, I'll go ahead and NOT use opiates so that I can consume Cannabis" It doesn't work that way. Besides that, anyone that is using such opiates likely could also easily obtain Cannabis, yet they still choose Opiates, or a combination of the two.
Originally posted by itswhatev
Reply to post by RealSpoke
I understand where you are cominmg fromn whole-heartedly... However I have to disagree to a point. Anyone who is a member of this websites knows how large corporations work.
A comnpany who makes it's money off of selling a pill(s) I'm sure would rather that customer be addicted to the pill than not. Its job security you know? If they had the chance to get rid of pain without the chance of a customer getting addicted I don't think they would move so quickly to change over.
If the tobacco companies had a way to make cigarettes without them being addictive do you think they would do it? No- because the only reason people continue to buy ciggs is BECAUSE they are addicted.
Having crohns disease I know all about being on pain meds consistently - and know how without them my quality of life would be reeaally sh###y- I also know how much these comnpanies make off of me alone and can only imagine the type of profits they see because of narcotic sales. I have no doubt that in the end it all boils down to $... Its good business to have a customner base who is addicted to what you are selling- and if they want to detox they have a pill for that, too much anxieity from being sober? They have a pill for that. Depressed that you are an addict- here is another pill... Pills to get you off of pills that were supposed to get you off other pills...
I do not think that if drug companies had a way of fighting pain as effectively as with narcotics- that they would fast track it. Just my opinion though..
I am sorry to hear you have this disease. My brother has a milder form of it and he uses herbs instead of drugs. I don't know if it will help you but if you're tired of throwing your money at drug companies (I agree they're there to make a profit) it's worth a look:
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