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" Ok now let's everybody keep cool, we got the LM still attached, the LM spacecraft's good, so if we need to get back home we've got a LM to do a good portion of it with. OK let's make sure we don't do anything that's going to blow our CSM electrical power with the batteries, or that will cause us to lose the main, or the fuel cell number two. OK, we want to keep the O2 and that kind of stuff working, we'd like to have RCS, but we got the command module system, so we're in good shape if we need to get home. Let's solve the problem, but let's not make it any worse by guessing"
Originally posted by Capablanca
Kranz states that after the Lovell venting comment, he knew there was a serious problem and time for the LM to be used as a lifeboat. Listen to the EECOM tape again. You will note that clearly this is not true. One minute after Lovell's venting statement Kranz begins with the LM as lifeboat comment. Kranz's statement as quoted above was made by the flight director entirely out of context temporally. Listen and decide for yourself about this critical point.
Listen to Lovell 47 minutes into this video talk about the possiblility of a meteor strike. They decided that this possibility was unlikely but that does not change the point that the LM could have been the source of the problem to begin with. The LM may have been damaged as a result of the Apollo 13 problem whatever it was. The Kranz comment is premature and self incriminating.
The official story about the rubella testing cannot be true simply based on the fact that we know all military personnel at that time were routinely tested for rubella.
During the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, measles was one of the principal causes of death among troops. Measles and secondary pneumonias in 1917 led to 48,000 hospitalizations and 1 million lost work days and represented 30 percent of all Army deaths, including combat deaths (44, 137, 138). During 1917 and early 1918, measles and mumps were leading causes of hospitalization and days lost from active service by members of the American Expeditionary Force in Europe (17, 44, 137, 139). During World War II, measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella accounted for over 300,000 hospital admissions or restrictions to quarters (140, 141). Even into the 1970s, measles and rubella caused a substantial number of hospitalizations and lost training time at basic training centers (90).
In 1961, Paul Parkman and his colleagues at WRAIR were codiscoverers of the rubella virus, isolating the virus among trainees at Fort Dix (4, 141). Vaccines to prevent measles, mumps, and rubella were licensed in the United States between 1963 and 1969. The AFEB helped to fund development of an attenuated measles vaccine (142). Indeed, the AFEB represented a major national source of grant funding for military and civilian biomedical researchers from the 1940s to the 1970s (10, 11, 53).
For military trainees, rubella vaccine was adopted first, in 1972, with measles vaccine added in 1980 to immunize those who evaded infection as children (10, 143, 144). Mumps outbreaks were less common than were the other two diseases, so mumps immunization was not uniformly adopted until 1991 (11, 145). A varicella policy of screening and as-needed immunization was also adopted in 1991 (11). The Food and Drug Administration licensed varicella vaccine in 1995. Now that a large proportion of basic trainees enter military service immune to these infections because of childhood immunization, the Services are increasingly testing for antibody and exempting those already immune (11, 146–152).
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
It is a gross oversight on Dr. Berry's part. He should have known the rubella profile of every astronaut well in advance.
The "confirmation testing" done 3 days before the launch date is the mark of a pure amateur. It looks to me like a CIA cover story to justify the switcher-oo from Mattingly to Swigert.
John Leonard "Jack" Swigert, Jr., (August 30, 1931 – December 27, 1982)
Before joining NASA, Swigert was a test pilot. After leaving NASA, he was elected to the United States House of Representatives, but died before being sworn in.
In 1982, during his political campaign, Swigert developed a malignant tumor in his right nasal passage. He underwent surgery, but the cancer spread to his bone marrow and lungs. He was hospitalized at Georgetown University Hospital on 19 December, and died of respiratory failure on December 27, eight days before the beginning of his Congressional term.
The brilliant telemetry on the monitor before me showed all systems working in lovely harmony. Then one of the astronauts reported a strange, muffled "boom" coming from the service module. At the very same instant I saw the system parameters lilt simultaneously before me on the monitor. Then the dials silently fell to minimum levels. Fuel, power, battery, oxygen-all seemed to have fluttered into the vacuum of space. Then came Jack Swigert's voice, saying with stoic control, "Houston, we have a problem." When I looked about the control room everyone seemed to be checking first their wits, then the telemetry. No one had any idea what had happened. Perhaps nothing at all but a loss of telemetry. After checking and double checking the data, however, we all knew it was for real. A grisly tension floated across the room. This wasn't erroneous information flickering through the maze of electronics. No, the data was accurate, and something had gone terribly wrong. Within a few minutes we had identified the problem as an explosion of some sort in the service module. We all knew just how serious this was. Jim Lovell, Jack Swigert, and Fred Haise might not make it back alive. This was a very real possibility. Originally, they were headed for a rugged region of the moon called Fra Mauro, but a lunar landing was now a lost dream. The most we could hope for was getting them home before they depleted something they couldn't live without.
Originally posted by choos
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
you mean they switched mattingly to swigert because CIA?
or should i say in your speak "CIA you CIA mean CIA they CIA switched CIA matCIAtingCIAly to swiCIAgert because CIA CIA"
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
Good. Now you are beginning to understand the real legacy of the Apollo CIA Mythology... it is the productive output of 1960's anti-communist paranoia in the American establishment.
My post was more than pertinent. Young and Mitchell both tell the same lie. Do you believe Mitchell was in mission control when the call came that there was a problem?
Of course he was not there.
Does that mean Apollo 13 was scammed? In all likelihood YES!