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That is Hollywood's version of fake history. NASA endorsed it, Gene Kranz endorsed it and, obviously, every NASA cheerleader will endorse it because Gene Kranz is some kind of hero to them. So many people watched that successful 1995 movie and they really believe that Gene Kranz said that! That's what I mean by controlling the historical narrative.
Originally posted by DigItLosseJam
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
They weren't there for the scammy O2 bomb scare. Left before that. Came after the scam tank blew. That's what Leibergot said and he knows right better than you do now don't he ?
Leibergot said no one was there.
You saying you know better than him ? Show us a pic of Mitchell or Young. SY Leibergot show that pic to prove no one was there.
I shouldn't need to. It is self explanatory. It's only two words: "historical" and "narrative". Try saying them out loud and maybe you will understand it. Someday. Hopefully.
You still need to explain why you have such an urgent need to control it. In truth, you don't own the narrative. Neither do I. But I want a more accurate, less mythological Apollo narrative.
So many times I have just scratched the surface of Nixon's Apollo and I find C I A written all over it.
There's more. The Lovelace Clinic, for example. The early Hollywood connections with Tv video enhancement technology. The Swiss Bank accounts of Apollo 15. The $70,000 payouts from Life magazine. The free Corvettes. The quick money astronauts like Shepard and Dave Scott. The 18.5 minutes of blank transcript from Apollo 12's secret stand up EVA that uncannily mirrors the 18.5 minutes that were famously erased from Richard Nixon's White House tapes. the missing telemetry tapes from Accession #A694099 or the moon rocks which never had "adequate controls". Etc. Ad infinitum.
The Apollo 13 teledrama is just one chapter of the Nixonian Tv propaganda surge which took place entirely under his presidency. This has nothing to do with "For All Mankind" this has everything to do with American flag patriotism fat rockets and fat paychecks for the U.S. military industrial complex.
Worshipping of idols does not sit well with a skeptical point of view. In my view, there are no idols. If someone constructs an idol it is my responsibility to knock it down. The obvious conclusion is that your narrative is constructed with a fatal defect. A defective narrative deserves to be toppled into a heap of ashes and regolith.
You have never accused me of trying to control anything. On the other hand, you are now admitting that you want to write your own historical fiction. That's fine with me, so long as you do not present it as actual history. Serious historical research has rules.
Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
You constantly underestimate Richard Nixon and his influence on the historical Apollo 13 narrative.
And remember, Nixon really liked the movies. He got the idea for Apollo 13 from "Marooned".
In fact, on December 20, 1969, Nixon watched the move "Marooned". The director of that film, John Sturgess, also directed "The Eagle Has Landed" in 1976. So many Hollywood connections> Ron Howard's historical revisionism>
Tv video enhancements in the early 1970's during Apollo 15, 16 and 17. Too many connections to ignore, really.
Decisively i love the way you are floating arond
Originally posted by WeaselSpencer
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
I love the weightless scenes in Marooned.
Im not kidding doc it hit
I am not kidding . Boom ! It hit me ! So funny but true.
Edgar Mitchell is beyond disgusting. That whole touchy feely psycho nut job business is a touchy feely psycho nut job front . That guy doesn't believe that made up nonsense about the spiritual realm interfacing with the realm of phony Apollo space missions. The idea is if Mitchell comes up with stuff that whacked, Apollo has got to be legit. What nut case would both participate in fake Apollo missions AND spew psycho-spiritual-Tom Cruisesque heiny jive nonsense ? So they expect you to buy all of it. The whole thing being so very far fetched, it simply has to be true.